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Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

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This crazy weather reminds me of some that I was witness too in 2009. I have been a bit more cautious and weary of inclimate weather since then. I was in a building that was bascially sheet metal and drywall at the time it hit with 80+ mph sustained winds and 100+ mph gusts. It tore part of the roof off and I thought the whole building was coming down. It did not produce a tornado in my town but it was still quite crazy. Take a look at the wiki entry for the storm. It had the shape of a hurricane (one reason many called it an inland hurricane). If you watch the video on there it actually kind of moves like one too. In the picture at the top my town is right on the edge of the "eye" there.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Wow. Check this out, interactive before-after of Joplin.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/25/us/joplin-aerial.html?smid=tw-nytimes
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That's what an EF5 does. Just completely obliterates everything and scrapes homes down to their foundations.

What I find most disturbing is these cities are getting ample lead times on these devastating tornadoes (sirens blew 17 minutes prior to the arrival of this one per Paul Douglas' blog in the strib), and yet scores of people are dying anyway.

I suspect if everyone took the warnings seriously, the death toll would be far lower. I imagine at least some of the deaths were caused by people lingering outside trying to see the actual tornado. Unfortunately, not all tornadoes are easily visible, even the large destructive ones - they can be rain-wrapped. By the time you realize what's happening, you're likely being impaled by flying debris.
 
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Bakunin said:
That's what an EF5 does. Just completely obliterates everything and scrapes homes down to their foundations.

What I find most disturbing is these cities are getting ample lead times on these devastating tornadoes (sirens blew 17 minutes prior to the arrival of this one per Paul Douglas' blog in the strib), and yet scores of people are dying anyway.

I suspect if everyone took the warnings seriously, the death toll would be far lower. I imagine at least some of the deaths were caused by people lingering outside trying to see the actual tornado. Unfortunately, not all tornadoes are easily visible, even the large destructive ones - they can be rain-wrapped. By the time you realize what's happening, you're likely being impaled by flying debris.
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Even with some warning, what do you do if you're in Walmart? There isn't anywhere too great to take cover in there if the tornado is going to destroy a building like that. Or people in a nursing home, I saw one on that map, it was destroyed. How long does it take to get an entire population of a nursing somewhere safe?
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Even with some warning, what do you do if you're in Walmart? There isn't anywhere too great to take cover in there if the tornado is going to destroy a building like that. Or people in a nursing home, I saw one on that map, it was destroyed. How long does it take to get an entire population of a nursing somewhere safe?
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Yeah, a place like that, you're going to have a large population of people that not going to be the most mobile around. If somebody is bedridden it might take an able body man a good 4-5 minutes to get them to shelter, and thats if he can just scoop em up in his arms without dealing with the bed or other assorted stuff. That, and from what I've heard about Joplin, there's not a lot of basements or storm cellers there. Lots of stories of people riding it out in a closet or bathtub. Its not exactly a good place to be when an monster like one of those comes rolling thru. It tore up a lot of buildings.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Yeah, a place like that, you're going to have a large population of people that not going to be the most mobile around. If somebody is bedridden it might take an able body man a good 4-5 minutes to get them to shelter, and thats if he can just scoop em up in his arms without dealing with the bed or other assorted stuff. That, and from what I've heard about Joplin, there's not a lot of basements or storm cellers there. Lots of stories of people riding it out in a closet or bathtub. Its not exactly a good place to be when an monster like one of those comes rolling thru. It tore up a lot of buildings.
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How on earth do you live in tornado alley without a basement...or how do a majority of people in tornado alley not have a basement?
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
How on earth do you live in tornado alley without a basement...or how do a majority of people in tornado alley not have a basement?
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depends on the soil. Some places are pretty much right on top of rock, so its a huge pain in the butt to put in a basement. Much simpler to just clear out some of the rock, level it, and pour a pad to build on.
 
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For those of you in the south metro, it looks like the world is coming to an end......again.
 
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Had to go inside at Stella's today at 4, but nothing really came our way. When I got home the yard was still dry. I need some rain to soak in the fertilizer. :D
 
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Greyeagle said:
For those of you in the south metro, it looks like the world is coming to an end......again.
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Some decent hail came through. I was helping a buddy move, and we had just finished unloading the POD storage, working on putting together his kids' beds when the skies unleashed. We had windows open throughout the house to get some air moving while the sky still looked pleasant. We were then rushing to various rooms to close them all down.
 
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As is typically the case, the first truly hot day of the year will bring a chance of severe weather with it. Wind and hail will be the threats in the eastern part of the state tomorrow evening / overnight. The western / southwestern parts of the state will be facing the most significant risk tomorrow, as the cold front will be arriving during the time of peak heating. Expect a few tornadoes in the early going, but things should transition to a wind/hail threat pretty quickly after that as storms merge into lines / clusters.

It'll be quite breezy over the next couple days as well - strong southerly winds will pump in heat and humidity tomorrow, and strong westerly winds will dry us out Tuesday.
 
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It is too **** hot and humid today. Why can't it be 20 degrees again? The 8 billion mosquitoes in my backyard are swimming through the air.
 
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