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Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
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HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
He has a year to adjust and retrofit into Lucia's non-aggressive, puck possession offense which is different from Madigan's NU systems of physicality and an unrelenting backcheck. We'll see if that adjustment works for him and doesn't clip his wings. Most of his goals were typically deep inside the circles and he's relentless in storming the net. With Lucia's systems, IMO we don't storm often enough.
He has a year to adjust and retrofit into Lucia's non-aggressive, puck possession offense which is different from Madigan's NU systems of physicality and an unrelenting backcheck. We'll see if that adjustment works for him and doesn't clip his wings. Most of his goals were typically deep inside the circles and he's relentless in storming the net. With Lucia's systems, IMO we don't storm often enough.
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/633844714136014848
Duluth News Tribune: Family ties: Grand Rapids' McLaughlin commits to Minnesota #Gophers hockey #PrideOnIce http://ow.ly/R4Kiv
https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/633844714136014848
Duluth News Tribune: Family ties: Grand Rapids' McLaughlin commits to Minnesota #Gophers hockey #PrideOnIce http://ow.ly/R4Kiv
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
It was mentioned in this morning's Star Tribune...says he played Bantams last season? He must have a lot of promise!
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
Some might have argued that he was the third best player on that Bantam team. (Although by the end of the year, a lot of people were talking about him.)
Gavin Hain was named Bantam of the year last year. http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/489555?referrer_id=1008936
Zach Stejskal, in 2014, won a goalie of the year award from MN Hockey which apparently is for all goalies below the high school level. http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/495754?referrer_id=967184
With the sophomores above playing varsity this year, with seniors Mitch Mattson (UND), Adams and Bischoff (both D1 potential), and potential Junior D1'ers in Stampohar and Miller, this should be a team to watch this year. Oh yeah, and the new head coach is Trent Klatt. I have a feeling we'll be seeing a recruiting visit or two from the Gophs and others this year.
Some might have argued that he was the third best player on that Bantam team. (Although by the end of the year, a lot of people were talking about him.)
Gavin Hain was named Bantam of the year last year. http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/489555?referrer_id=1008936
Zach Stejskal, in 2014, won a goalie of the year award from MN Hockey which apparently is for all goalies below the high school level. http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/495754?referrer_id=967184
With the sophomores above playing varsity this year, with seniors Mitch Mattson (UND), Adams and Bischoff (both D1 potential), and potential Junior D1'ers in Stampohar and Miller, this should be a team to watch this year. Oh yeah, and the new head coach is Trent Klatt. I have a feeling we'll be seeing a recruiting visit or two from the Gophs and others this year.
HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
I'm on the side of Jerry York, Red and other coaches on this issue. The D1 college hockey recruiting wars are pernicious and NOT in the best interest of these young kids. I doubt whether a 14-15 year old can make an informed decision about his college hockey future without a lot of other voices telling him what to do. Stockpiling kids before they play a high school game is a sign that the NCAA D1 "gentleman's agreement" needs to be thrown out. The reality is there is no statistical external validity to forecast a kid's developmental curve. If a kid agrees to play at such a young age and doesn't develop as expected he'll inevitably be dumped. IMO getting back to recruiting older HS players and placing more emphasis on honoring the LOI will bring sanity back into the recruiting picture.
I'm on the side of Jerry York, Red and other coaches on this issue. The D1 college hockey recruiting wars are pernicious and NOT in the best interest of these young kids. I doubt whether a 14-15 year old can make an informed decision about his college hockey future without a lot of other voices telling him what to do. Stockpiling kids before they play a high school game is a sign that the NCAA D1 "gentleman's agreement" needs to be thrown out. The reality is there is no statistical external validity to forecast a kid's developmental curve. If a kid agrees to play at such a young age and doesn't develop as expected he'll inevitably be dumped. IMO getting back to recruiting older HS players and placing more emphasis on honoring the LOI will bring sanity back into the recruiting picture.
HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
I've never read anything by coaches who are overly concerned about the "stockpiling" 14-15 year old kids using the "gentleman's agreement" as a means of stemming the tide of players committing to the CHL. Most coaches such as Jerry York, Red Berenson, Frank Serratore, Wayne Wilson, etc. to name a few, believe this is more of a competitive recruiting war with other NCAA schools. Even Don Lucia was in favor of dropping agreement last year when it was discussed at the American Hockey Coaches Association convention in Naples, Fla.
The main point of contention among the top coaches across the country in favor of dropping the agreement is it tends to prey upon the dreams of 14-15 year old kids who have yet to physically and mentally develop to make a fully informed decision on their options not only in regards to their future aspirations to play hockey, but to make an informed choice about which NCAA schools offer the best educational programs for their perceived career path. If a kid gets dropped by a team under the agreement because he's not met developmental expectations IMO that's not fair to him since he could have looked at other options. At that age players should be listening to their parents, coaches, etc. regarding their future options.
For some kids, the CHL might be the right choice. But they need to understand the facts. Leaving your family at 16, doing your HS work by correspondence and enduring the grind of a 70 game season is a tough road for a HS kid. Less than 6 percent of players in the NCAA and CHL will ever play in the NHL, so most will need a college education. Comparison of US born hockey players who played in the CHL and the NCAA who eventually played in the NHL: Article.
Moreover, yes the CHL offers college scholarships, but only 32% use them after leaving the league at 19-20 years old. Why? It's the CHL's dirty little secret. A lot of players will go onto play in the ECHL, AHL or Europe for a few years in hopes of getting a shot at the big show and are forced to forfeit ALL of their scholarship money unless they use it within 18 months. That seems dubious to me since the CHL lures young players by promoting themselves as the preferred developmental path to the NHL and offering an educational package in case they don't make it. In the real world, to expect a 19-20 year old to drop those dreams after CHL ineligibility at 19-20 years old and attend college doesn't make any sense. Some NHL players are up in arms about it too.
I've never read anything by coaches who are overly concerned about the "stockpiling" 14-15 year old kids using the "gentleman's agreement" as a means of stemming the tide of players committing to the CHL. Most coaches such as Jerry York, Red Berenson, Frank Serratore, Wayne Wilson, etc. to name a few, believe this is more of a competitive recruiting war with other NCAA schools. Even Don Lucia was in favor of dropping agreement last year when it was discussed at the American Hockey Coaches Association convention in Naples, Fla. The main point of contention among the top coaches across the country in favor of dropping the agreement is it tends to prey upon the dreams of 14-15 year old kids who have yet to physically and mentally develop to make a fully informed decision on their options not only in regards to their future aspirations to play hockey, but to make an informed choice about which NCAA schools offer the best educational programs for their perceived career path. If a kid gets dropped by a team under the agreement because he's not met developmental expectations IMO that's not fair to him since he could have looked at other options. At that age players should be listening to their parents, coaches, etc. regarding their future options.
For some kids, the CHL might be the right choice. But they need to understand the facts. Leaving your family at 16, doing your HS work by correspondence and enduring the grind of a 70 game season is a tough road for a HS kid. Less than 6 percent of players in the NCAA and CHL will ever play in the NHL, so most will need a college education. Comparison of US born hockey players who played in the CHL and the NCAA who eventually played in the NHL: Article.
Moreover, yes the CHL offers college scholarships, but only 32% use them after leaving the league at 19-20 years old. Why? It's the CHL's dirty little secret. A lot of players will go onto play in the ECHL, AHL or Europe for a few years in hopes of getting a shot at the big show and are forced to forfeit ALL of their scholarship money unless they use it within 18 months. That seems dubious to me since the CHL lures young players by promoting themselves as the preferred developmental path to the NHL and offering an educational package in case they don't make it. In the real world, to expect a 19-20 year old to drop those dreams after CHL ineligibility at 19-20 years old and attend college doesn't make any sense. Some NHL players are up in arms about it too.
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
1. People! What are we doing lingering on page 2? Has everyone given up on USCHO? (Bump)
2. (In an attempt to generate at least one response), what can people tell me about Sammy Walker?
I realize he is very young, but 14 points isn't phenomenal given he has a few years yet to either excel or plateau. Looks like he has lots of room to add weight, even if he doesn't add a lot of height. Anyone? Bueller?
3. I hear there is a 10 year old they are hoping to get a LOI from next year.
4. I realize certain people have zero faith in projected high round picks, but looking at some of BU's recruiting looks pretty impressive. I don't understand how they went from a mediocre team for a few years pre-Eichel, to suddenly being the team that a lot of top players want to chose. Don't follow Eastern players that closely, but seems like they are often beating out BC for players which seemed rare just a few years ago. Any insights?
1. People! What are we doing lingering on page 2? Has everyone given up on USCHO? (Bump)
2. (In an attempt to generate at least one response), what can people tell me about Sammy Walker?
I realize he is very young, but 14 points isn't phenomenal given he has a few years yet to either excel or plateau. Looks like he has lots of room to add weight, even if he doesn't add a lot of height. Anyone? Bueller?
3. I hear there is a 10 year old they are hoping to get a LOI from next year.
4. I realize certain people have zero faith in projected high round picks, but looking at some of BU's recruiting looks pretty impressive. I don't understand how they went from a mediocre team for a few years pre-Eichel, to suddenly being the team that a lot of top players want to chose. Don't follow Eastern players that closely, but seems like they are often beating out BC for players which seemed rare just a few years ago. Any insights?
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HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
I found this to be typical of the offseason. Some spend their offseason posting in the Cafe, while others disappear until the season starts. Only TRUE Gopher fans post consistently in the summer months.
LOYALTY. Parker always recruited very well with star power recruits even up until his retirement in 2012. The problem was his recruits were not as dedicated to wearing the BU jersey like the recent recruits that David Quinn has brought in. Last season Quinn had 11 players from Mass. compared to 11 in Parker's last two seasons combined. Parker tended to recruit more heavily in Canada, while Quinn is tapping into the EJHL, Eastern prep schools (O' Regan) and the NTDP (Eichel). Quinn is also recruiting more out the USHL than Parker did as well.
I found this to be typical of the offseason. Some spend their offseason posting in the Cafe, while others disappear until the season starts. Only TRUE Gopher fans post consistently in the summer months.
LOYALTY. Parker always recruited very well with star power recruits even up until his retirement in 2012. The problem was his recruits were not as dedicated to wearing the BU jersey like the recent recruits that David Quinn has brought in. Last season Quinn had 11 players from Mass. compared to 11 in Parker's last two seasons combined. Parker tended to recruit more heavily in Canada, while Quinn is tapping into the EJHL, Eastern prep schools (O' Regan) and the NTDP (Eichel). Quinn is also recruiting more out the USHL than Parker did as well.
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
Koho, check out the thread on him in the MN High School Boy's Forum - good info from some guys who know his game.
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
Or lurk. Or have a life. Or have generally moved over to GPL for hockey talk.
I found this to be typical of the offseason. Some spend their offseason posting in the Cafe, while others disappear until the season starts. Only TRUE Gopher fans post consistently in the summer months.
Or lurk. Or have a life. Or have generally moved over to GPL for hockey talk.
Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
Meh, I say whatever, and let the cards fall where they may.
APPENDIX A: Brent might nibble if he's baited in the summer months.
Meh, I say whatever, and let the cards fall where they may.
HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
Resend: APPENDIX A: Brent might nibble if he's PROPERLY baited in the summer months.
Or lurk. Or have a life. Or have generally moved over to GPL for hockey talk.
Resend: APPENDIX A: Brent might nibble if he's PROPERLY baited in the summer months.
HarleyMC
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Re: Minnesota Gophers Off Season Thread 2015
You've been gone too long. We don't say 'Meh' here anymore, that's posthumous.
Meh, I say whatever, and let the cards fall where they may.
You've been gone too long. We don't say 'Meh' here anymore, that's posthumous.