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Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
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trixR4kids
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Yeah I certainly wouldn’t do that.
trixR4kids
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I mean those games happen (that one PSU game was abysmal obviously) but I’m more concerned with the longer term trends like our 40’s ranked goals scored per game. And there are specific things you can point to in terms of coaching imo that explain some of it. The effort stuff is something you need to assess on a per game basis but i don’t think it explains most of a team’s success (or lack thereof) for a given year.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Potulny might be a good option in five years.
It’s like an Alabama fan seeing a Saban assistant do well at some MAC school or Minnesota. Promising, but I’m not going to trust him with the aircraft carrier just yet.
Potulny might be a good option in five years.
It’s like an Alabama fan seeing a Saban assistant do well at some MAC school or Minnesota. Promising, but I’m not going to trust him with the aircraft carrier just yet.
trixR4kids
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Yeah exactly, I like what he’s done so far but he’s not coming here now.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Spot on Koho. If you've been around this game long enough it's not difficult to tell which players are 100% engaged in winning puck battles and making a play, and which guys are going for a primadonna skate on their shift. It's not a coach's responsibility to motivate players, they better show up motivated or stay home we don't need you.
I saw so much standing around, bend over slightly and poke a little here and poke a little there while letting a guy dance around near the net and score, particularly with the D this season it's uncanny. And the offense dumping it in, playing the walls ad infinitum instead of entering the zone, controlling play, going to the net, and being smart and precise with the puck. That's not traditional Gopher Hockey, that's BORING hockey. And the guys that do give 100% each game should be vocal in the locker room about what that means.
"What else does that "M" on your sweater mean other than you're a student here?" Gophers have one shot to prove they're better than their record indicates. They better seriously bring it and win. #relentless #fierce #fast #smart
Spot on Koho. If you've been around this game long enough it's not difficult to tell which players are 100% engaged in winning puck battles and making a play, and which guys are going for a primadonna skate on their shift. It's not a coach's responsibility to motivate players, they better show up motivated or stay home we don't need you.
I saw so much standing around, bend over slightly and poke a little here and poke a little there while letting a guy dance around near the net and score, particularly with the D this season it's uncanny. And the offense dumping it in, playing the walls ad infinitum instead of entering the zone, controlling play, going to the net, and being smart and precise with the puck. That's not traditional Gopher Hockey, that's BORING hockey. And the guys that do give 100% each game should be vocal in the locker room about what that means.
"What else does that "M" on your sweater mean other than you're a student here?" Gophers have one shot to prove they're better than their record indicates. They better seriously bring it and win. #relentless #fierce #fast #smart
gopher wes
Dammit, Gorilla!!
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
That's the reason I'm not 100% out on Guentzel if they do make a move this offsesaon. I know everyone is down on Guentzel's defense this year. But I'm not sure how much of that is on him and how much is on recruiting. I'm intrigued to see what Guentzel would do if he got to run the show, I'm guessing it would have a much different feel than it did with Lucia. JMO.
Some people do, I'm sure. I would agree with those who are saying he is probably too raw as a head coach. I'm not sure how much I'd put into him being too much like Lucia, though. I don't doubt that he does some things based on experiences and advice he's gotten from Lucia over the years, but most coaches want to put their own stamp on things when they get their shot at the helm.
That's the reason I'm not 100% out on Guentzel if they do make a move this offsesaon. I know everyone is down on Guentzel's defense this year. But I'm not sure how much of that is on him and how much is on recruiting. I'm intrigued to see what Guentzel would do if he got to run the show, I'm guessing it would have a much different feel than it did with Lucia. JMO.
ThePowerConference
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Its seems like Guentzel is basically running the team already because he's the only one that gets on the players behind the bench. Old Don just stands there with this forlorn look on his face like he's lost interest. I would be for giving Guentzel a chance to be top dog.
Potulny has done a nice job at NMU this season but a bigger sample size is needed before he gets promoted to head coach for Goldy. Plus the level of competition NMU faced is not nearly as good as that the Gophers face every season, both in the Big 10 and non-conference.
Its seems like Guentzel is basically running the team already because he's the only one that gets on the players behind the bench. Old Don just stands there with this forlorn look on his face like he's lost interest. I would be for giving Guentzel a chance to be top dog.
Potulny has done a nice job at NMU this season but a bigger sample size is needed before he gets promoted to head coach for Goldy. Plus the level of competition NMU faced is not nearly as good as that the Gophers face every season, both in the Big 10 and non-conference.
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trixR4kids
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
IDK about that, if anything Lucia is too busy yelling at the refs
IDK about that, if anything Lucia is too busy yelling at the refs
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
A former 3 year captain at the U, with professional experience as a player, then having served 8 years as an assistant and now one year as a very successful head coach at the D1 level, I wouldn't characterize him as being "too raw". He's known to be a great recruiter, a big plus. And at a very mature 38 years old, is still young enough to relate very well to the players. I'm not arguing that he would necessarily be the best choice if Lucia should step down, but I do think he's got lots of promise to be a very successful head coach at Minnesota. If Mark Coyle decides to keep tDon for another year, and Northern Michigan has another good season in 2018-19, maybe that would be the more appropriate time for Potulny to take over the head coaching job at Minnesota.
Which begs the question: how much is the recruiting (and selection of the recruits) and the play of his defensemen on him? IMO Guentzel is one of those guys who's destined to be a career assistant coach. He does not possess what I would call a charismatic or positive personality, two traits that are very important for the program's lead spokesman to have. If the Gophers do decide to make a change I think it's important to start with a clean slate, one with fresh ideas and a new direction, and let the new coach build his own team.
gopher wes
Dammit, Gorilla!!
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
100% disagree and I'm so sick of hearing people say that. You can say whatever you want about tDon and the (lack of) results on the ice, but I don't think it's because he doesn't care.
gopher wes
Dammit, Gorilla!!
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
I disagree. I feel like Guentzel is usually pretty engaging and sometimes very blunt in interviews. In his between period interviews he has kind of let the team have it a couple times when they were playing poorly that I remember. And I thought he did a good job on the weekly radio show filling in for tDon a few times. I feel like Guentzel is a lot of the things that people say Lucia isn't, especially in his demeanor on the bench. Like I said, I think I'd be intrigued to see what kind of stamp Guentzel would put on the program if it was his to run.
All good points, we'll see how Coyle plays it if Lucia gets the boot.
I disagree. I feel like Guentzel is usually pretty engaging and sometimes very blunt in interviews. In his between period interviews he has kind of let the team have it a couple times when they were playing poorly that I remember. And I thought he did a good job on the weekly radio show filling in for tDon a few times. I feel like Guentzel is a lot of the things that people say Lucia isn't, especially in his demeanor on the bench. Like I said, I think I'd be intrigued to see what kind of stamp Guentzel would put on the program if it was his to run.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
I don't get the impression from following things at NMU that Potulny is approaching all that much in the same way that tDon has, but you could do worse either way. Never mind the fact Lucia was a golden child for years (including his tenure pre-Minnesota) so borrowing some of that isn't exactly a terrible idea. I think like with many coaches Lucia has finally run his course, but there's no reason to believe Potulny would co-op the latter over the former.
That said he's possibly a bit too green for that spotlight right now, but despite that I'd put him over a lot of others on the list of possibilities. He's hungry, driven, passionate, gritty and exudes energy. Something the program has lacked for years.
I don't get the impression from following things at NMU that Potulny is approaching all that much in the same way that tDon has, but you could do worse either way. Never mind the fact Lucia was a golden child for years (including his tenure pre-Minnesota) so borrowing some of that isn't exactly a terrible idea. I think like with many coaches Lucia has finally run his course, but there's no reason to believe Potulny would co-op the latter over the former.
That said he's possibly a bit too green for that spotlight right now, but despite that I'd put him over a lot of others on the list of possibilities. He's hungry, driven, passionate, gritty and exudes energy. Something the program has lacked for years.
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Games to watch:
Atlantic Hockey – Robert Morris vs Air Force
ECAC – Princeton vs Clarkson
Hockey East – Boston University vs Providence
WCHA – Northern Michigan vs Michigan Tech
From Jim Dahl's analysis:
If Clarkson and Providence (both favored) win there will be three slots remaining. Minnesota and Minnesota Duluth each get one and North Dakota and Boston College will be vying for the final slot. UND gets it with a win or a tie with UMD in the NCHC consolation game; if UND loses and NMU wins, UND is out. If UND loses, they can still get in if MTU beats NMU.
If just one of Boston University or Princeton win, there will be two spots remaining and Minnesota and Minnesota Duluth will get them and North Dakota and Boston College will be left out.
If both of Boston University and Princeton win, there will only be one slot remaining. Again, North Dakota and Boston College will be out, but only one of Minnesota or Minnesota Duluth will be selected. To get the upper hand, Minnesota needs UND and any of SCSU, NMU, OSU, or RMU to win.
Games to watch:
Atlantic Hockey – Robert Morris vs Air Force
ECAC – Princeton vs Clarkson
Hockey East – Boston University vs Providence
WCHA – Northern Michigan vs Michigan Tech
From Jim Dahl's analysis:
If Clarkson and Providence (both favored) win there will be three slots remaining. Minnesota and Minnesota Duluth each get one and North Dakota and Boston College will be vying for the final slot. UND gets it with a win or a tie with UMD in the NCHC consolation game; if UND loses and NMU wins, UND is out. If UND loses, they can still get in if MTU beats NMU.
If just one of Boston University or Princeton win, there will be two spots remaining and Minnesota and Minnesota Duluth will get them and North Dakota and Boston College will be left out.
If both of Boston University and Princeton win, there will only be one slot remaining. Again, North Dakota and Boston College will be out, but only one of Minnesota or Minnesota Duluth will be selected. To get the upper hand, Minnesota needs UND and any of SCSU, NMU, OSU, or RMU to win.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Thanks for posting this, SteveO. I expect I will be referring back to it as today's scores come in. Full analysis here:
https://blog.collegehockeyranked.com/2018/03/17/who-can-make-the-ncaas-saturday-morning-outlook/
Thanks for posting this, SteveO. I expect I will be referring back to it as today's scores come in. Full analysis here:
https://blog.collegehockeyranked.com/2018/03/17/who-can-make-the-ncaas-saturday-morning-outlook/
Rabid Gopher
Craving Championchips
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
LOL, everything is falling into place to deny the Gophs.
Can we start the 2018-19 season thread yet?
LOL, everything is falling into place to deny the Gophs.
Can we start the 2018-19 season thread yet?
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Gophers now need Ohio State to win. They just went into overtime with Notre Dame.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers Season Thread 2017-18 Part II
Thank you, Coach Lucia.
-Two national championships
-Four WCHA regular season championships
-Three WCHA Final Five championships
-Four Big Ten regular season championships
-One Big Ten playoff championship
It was a good run.
Thank you, Coach Lucia.
-Two national championships
-Four WCHA regular season championships
-Three WCHA Final Five championships
-Four Big Ten regular season championships
-One Big Ten playoff championship
It was a good run.