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Minnesota Girls High School Hockey III

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brookyone said:
Slightly belated, Clash of the Titans II:

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news_article/show/125188?referrer_id=115187

Current scoring leaders stats...hopefully more accurate than at the seasons beginning.

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/show/115184-leaders

Striking sibling resemblance there atop the goaltending column.
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There are some pretty amazing SOG% numbers. Many well over 100%, and one who has 20 goals on 13 shots. Reminds me of the old show, Bewitched!
 
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DC78-82 said:
There are some pretty amazing SOG% numbers. Many well over 100%, and one who has 20 goals on 13 shots. Reminds me of the old show, Bewitched!
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I don't think you can trust the goaltending stats. I've seen lots of weird numbers when looking at the box scores, including the inputting of goals where the SOG's are supposed to go. I do think the "skater" stats are pretty accurate, as are the team goal totals and wins & losses, but not much else, including SOG for both goalies and skaters. There must be a certain trick to getting these right, because you see things which obviously can't be.

From what I can tell the learning curve of the new system was just too steep for many of the individuals who've been charged with the task of entering the data. Too bad there wasn't some coordinated training offered before the season got underway. There are some who obviously caught on much faster than others, and I do think it's been gradually getting better. Hopefully in the future those who have mastered the system will teach the person(s) who will be taking over when their "assignment" is finished. Usually the data is gathered and then input into the system by parents who "volunteer" to do it, and then when their daughter(s) complete their eligibility they move on also.
 
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D2D said:
I don't think you can trust the goaltending stats. I've seen lots of weird numbers when looking at the box scores, including the inputting of goals where the SOG's are supposed to go. I do think the "skater" stats are pretty accurate, as are the team goal totals and wins & losses, but not much else, including SOG for both goalies and skaters. There must be a certain trick to getting these right, because you see things which obviously can't be.

From what I can tell the learning curve of the new system was just too steep for many of the individuals who've been charged with the task of entering the data. Too bad there wasn't some coordinated training offered before the season got underway. There are some who obviously caught on much faster than others, and I do think it's been gradually getting better. Hopefully in the future those who have mastered the system will teach the person(s) who will be taking over when their "assignment" is finished. Usually the data is gathered and then input into the system by parents who "volunteer" to do it, and then when their daughter(s) complete their eligibility they move on also.
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I was actually remarking on shooter's stats:eek::

GP......G......A..... PTS... SOG.. SOG. %

12.....15.....21......36.......52....28.8
11......9..... 26.......35.......7.....128.6
11.....17.....18......35.......16....106.2
12.....22.....12......34.......62....35.5
13.....13.....20......33.......11....118.2
11.....21.....12......33.......13....161.5
9.......23.....10......33.......17....135.3
10.....11......20.....31.......10.....110.0
10.....22.......8......30.......28.....78.6
10.....13......16.....29.......30.....43.3
12.....14......15.....29.......64.....21.9
10.....19......10.....29.......19.....100.0
10.....19......10.....29.......19.....100.0
11.....16......12.....28.......16.....100.0
11.....14......13.....27.......12.....116.7
13.....18.......9......27.......16.....112.5
9.......15......12.....27.......15.....100.0
12.....13......13.....26........10.....130.0


If these stats are accurate, I can see why everyone wants Minny HS players;)
 
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brookyone said:
Slightly belated, Clash of the Titans II:

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news_article/show/125188?referrer_id=115187

Current scoring leaders stats...hopefully more accurate than at the seasons beginning.

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/show/115184-leaders

Striking sibling resemblance there atop the goaltending column.
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Jeeez, a tie? Judging by the photo, one would assume the ice was tilted in Roseville's favor. :p
 
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Hux - The article mention 9 D1 players in the game - who are they?

....."Stecklein, one of the nine Division I-bound players from both teams who logged significant ice time Tuesday, buried her chance at 15:55 of the period.".....


Roseville (5) - Stecklein, UM; Brodt, SCSU, Slattery, Providence; Janhke, Penn State; Flug, UM (fall '13).....has G Allen committed anywhere?

Edina (2) - Megan Armstong, UConn; Allie Austin, Yale....who else G Dahl?
 
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DC78-82 said:
I was actually remarking on shooter's stats:eek::
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Yes but notice I said:

"I do think the "skater" stats are pretty accurate, as are the team goal totals and wins & losses, but not much else, including SOG for both goalies and skaters".

If the skaters' (shooters') SOG are not accurate then obviously their SOG % can't be either!
 
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Defending conference champion Roseville Area appears poised to contend once again for the SEC championship. HUGE test January 3 at Saint Croix Rec Center against Stillwater Area.

Meanwhile defending section champion Hill-Murray looks like they will expect to be playing for the section championship again at the end of the season.

White Bear and Stillwater certainly far from eliminated from the conference championship at this point with Mounds View something of a surprise with wins over both Stillwater and White Bear and currently at second in the conference standings.
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Defending conference champion Roseville Area appears poised to contend once again for the SEC championship. HUGE test January 3 at Saint Croix Rec Center against Stillwater Area.
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...and pretty much a must win for the Ponies if they hope to contend for the SEC title. Always great games between these two rivals...but the Raiders are pretty stacked this year.

This section tournament promises to be a virtual maelstrom with the likes of the Raiders, Pioneers, Ponies and...let's see...who am I forgetting...uh, gosh, I can't remember. Well, I know I'm omitting someone so I'll just say "others" and leave it at that.

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news_article/show/126178?referrer_id=115187-news
 
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brookyone said:
...but the Raiders are pretty stacked this year.

http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news_article/show/126178?referrer_id=115187-news
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Don't you mean EVERY YEAR!!!! I'll take Hill to come away with it. Sorry. Carma goes against the Raiders and I feel the Ponies and Bears only have a couple of nice players. Raiders #3 and 8 are outstanding along with the goalie and then a very nice group behind. Hill has the great one. The game changer.
 
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WCHFan said:
Don't you mean EVERY YEAR!!!! I'll take Hill to come away with it. Sorry. Carma goes against the Raiders and I feel the Ponies and Bears only have a couple of nice players. Raiders #3 and 8 are outstanding along with the goalie and then a very nice group behind. Hill has the great one. The game changer.
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Roseville has had a very nice run.

Looking at 14s and 12s though . . . Maybe Roseville better enjoy this group.

But this group!!!!! #8 for sure, great player, the goalie for sure, one of the best in the state this year, #3 for sure, #6 for sure. But what about #17, #15, the still very young #7 (nice hockey pedigree), no use leaving #23 and #12 out of the discussion.

I concede, this boils down to LOADED this year. I think that's why they are rated number 1.

Can they win back the section championship from Hill-Murray. Well, they will have to get there first. If those two teams end up facing off for the section title the winner will undoubtedly be the favorite in the state tournament.

Fans of BSM and Edina are welcome to state dissenting opinions.
 
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I see Hill-Murray, BSM and Roseville as the top 3 teams in Class AA right now, with maybe a slight edge going to Roseville due to their depth and experience. It's a little hard to compare because the three teams have not faced a single common opponent so far, but you can get an idea from these match-ups.

Hill-Murray and Roseville have each played Edina, with H-M beating them 2-1 and Roseville tying them 2-2.

Hill-Murray and BSM have each beaten defending AA champion Minnetonka, H-M by 5-4 and BSM by 2-0. It will be a real battle between BSM and Minnetonka to see which team advances to State out of Section 6AA, just like it should come down to H-M and Roseville in 4AA.

H-M and BSM have also both played Breck, rated No. 1 in Class A, and Breck beat them both. It was Breck 5, H-M 2; and Breck 4, BSM 3 in OT.

The only common opponent that BSM and Roseville have is White Bear Lake. BSM beat them 7-3 in the teams' opening game, and Roseville just beat them 5-1 on Tuesday.

So from these results you have to say the three teams appear to be pretty close. In Class AA KRACH currently has them ranked Nos. 1. (Hill-Murray) 2. (BSM) and 3. (Roseville) but this appears to be more of a result of strength of schedule than anything else. That will change next week when each team will be tested in the respective Holiday tournaments they'll be playing in.
 
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D2D said:
So from these results you have to say the three teams appear to be pretty close. In Class AA KRACH currently has them ranked Nos. 1. (Hill-Murray) 2. (BSM) and 3. (Roseville) but this appears to be more of a result of strength of schedule than anything else. That will change next week when each team will be tested in the respective Holiday tournaments they'll be playing in.
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With the possibility of a preview of a potential section 4AA combatant barn burner with H-M and Roseville in the Kaposia. 'Tonka and Blake will have something to say about that possibility...but I'd like to watch such a preview.
 
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All good teams and it will be fun to have it play out. Did Breck beat HM with Brandt? I do think Roseville is the deepest team in the state. Just think the hockey gods might favor Hill as it did for Stillwater in the past. Roseville always seems to get snake bitten in sections.
 
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WCHFan said:
Roseville always seems to get snake bitten in sections.
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For as strong as the section has been, they've probably done okay. A lot could depend on which team stays healthy, because injuries to key players can change the balance of power quickly. Or even additions -- was it four years ago that CDH got hot in the second half and made a run to state? Can't rule anyone out.
 
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brookyone said:
With the possibility of a preview of a potential section 4AA combatant barn burner with H-M and Roseville in the Kaposia. 'Tonka and Blake will have something to say about that possibility...but I'd like to watch such a preview.
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Roseville - even without Stecklein and Flug - should have no problem with Blake, which is down a lot compared to their teams from a few years ago. And Blake will be without their top player, Dani Cameranesi, who also will be with the U18's, and without her Blake doesn't have much of a chance to advance in this tournament (IMO). Just a few years ago, they were loaded with a half-dozen really good players, plus more depth on the second and third lines, so missing just one really good player wouldn't have affected their chances nearly as much.

I'll be a little surprised, however, if a "Brandt-less" Hill-Murray team will beat Minnetonka. Whether H-M is playing Minnetonka in the quarterfinals, or Roseville in the semifinal, without Hanna Brandt they are just not the same team. She's THAT GOOD, and means that much to H-M's team. They do, however, have a better supporting cast than Blake, but it still probably won't be enough to advance.

So I'm going with Roseville and Minnetonka advancing to first Kaposia semifinal. And because Roseville will be missing Stecklein and Flug - despite all of their other weapons - I believe Minnetonka will win that semi and advance to the final, probably against Warroad.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, and if I am it won't be the first time. ;)
 
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Holiday tournament action getting started today:

I. Edina ABRA Tournament

Monday, December 26

Quarterfinals - Upper Bracket

Irondale vs. Stillwater

Grand Rapids/Greenway vs. Hopkins

Quarterfinals - Lower Bracket

Lakeville South vs. Coon Rapids

Duluth vs. Edina

Schwan Cup and Kaposia Classic getting started in a couple days.

GO PONIES!
 
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