No kidding. Sioux controlled 65-70% of the game.
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Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
- Thread starter MFhockey
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No kidding. Sioux controlled 65-70% of the game.
MGoBlueHockey
Wolverine Devotee
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
I didn't blame the refs. I said what happened. Missed calls. Again. In an NCAA Tournament game. Shocker. They missed calls on your end, too. Their refusal to call interference either way was laughable.
That wasn't what lost Michigan the game, though. Turning the puck over a million times did. The only hope of covering up those mistakes was going on the powerplay, and Michigan was on it once all weekend. So naturally I'm going to bring it up.
But there's no guarantee Michigan would've went 3-for-3 on it, so much of the OP was sour grapes.
I didn't blame the refs. I said what happened. Missed calls. Again. In an NCAA Tournament game. Shocker. They missed calls on your end, too. Their refusal to call interference either way was laughable.
That wasn't what lost Michigan the game, though. Turning the puck over a million times did. The only hope of covering up those mistakes was going on the powerplay, and Michigan was on it once all weekend. So naturally I'm going to bring it up.
But there's no guarantee Michigan would've went 3-for-3 on it, so much of the OP was sour grapes.
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Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
Not "my" end. I'm a BU fan...we were in a different regional. I'm just commenting on your statement...going down the "officiating" rathole won't get you anywhere. But, since you brought it up, North Dakota was better. Period.
Not "my" end. I'm a BU fan...we were in a different regional. I'm just commenting on your statement...going down the "officiating" rathole won't get you anywhere. But, since you brought it up, North Dakota was better. Period.
MGoBlueHockey
Wolverine Devotee
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
I'm not arguing that they played better.
I'm not arguing that they played better.
willythekid
New member
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
While the reffing certainly wasn't the best, it certainly wasn't biased against michigan. For every uncalled interference on UND there was two on mich. Plus michigan was the recipient of a blatant make-up call. Remember, refs screw over UND, not their opponents...
While the reffing certainly wasn't the best, it certainly wasn't biased against michigan. For every uncalled interference on UND there was two on mich. Plus michigan was the recipient of a blatant make-up call. Remember, refs screw over UND, not their opponents...
SiouxFanatic
Registered User
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
Maybe I'm in the minority but overall compared to the other regional games, I actually liked the ECAC officiating that did both UND games this weekend. They really let both teams play. They could've made the ticky tacky calls but they let the teams play the game and decide the ending.
Maybe I'm in the minority but overall compared to the other regional games, I actually liked the ECAC officiating that did both UND games this weekend. They really let both teams play. They could've made the ticky tacky calls but they let the teams play the game and decide the ending.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
I think what the poster was going for was that the only way Michigan was going to beat North Dakota was if the refs called everything. Even if Michigan only got 10 powerplays to North Dakota's 20, the Wolverines may have been able to outscore North Dakota, who struggled with the man advantage. That may have been true, as North Dakota dominated Michigan 5x5, and both of Michigan's goals were essentially on the powerplay (the first coming 11 seconds after Michigan's abbreviated powerplay and while still controlling the zone). Fortunately, we will never know.
I think what the poster was going for was that the only way Michigan was going to beat North Dakota was if the refs called everything. Even if Michigan only got 10 powerplays to North Dakota's 20, the Wolverines may have been able to outscore North Dakota, who struggled with the man advantage. That may have been true, as North Dakota dominated Michigan 5x5, and both of Michigan's goals were essentially on the powerplay (the first coming 11 seconds after Michigan's abbreviated powerplay and while still controlling the zone). Fortunately, we will never know.
willythekid
New member
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
I agree with everything you said basically but him bringing up the refs really smelled like sour grapes... and I wasn't the only one to smell it. There were a ton of mich fans on twitter claiming their team was screwed by the refs. That was not the case today.
I agree with everything you said basically but him bringing up the refs really smelled like sour grapes... and I wasn't the only one to smell it. There were a ton of mich fans on twitter claiming their team was screwed by the refs. That was not the case today.
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
Concur 100% on UND being better, except on PP.
I don't think he was saying they were biased against Michigan in the game. As for non-calls in the UND vs UM game, I don't see any reason in arguing over it as the point isn't that Michigan didn't get calls but that the refs were not calling many penalties in either of Michigan's games on either team. Agree with this or not, that is a fact.
At the end of the day, UND and ND both played very disciplined games (or at least disciplined enough according to the refs and that is what matters). Come the NCAA tournament, that is what good teams do. They take away strengths of other teams, in the case of Michigan that is the PP. ND tried and it wasn't enough. UND mostly did and succeeded.
Concur 100% on UND being better, except on PP.
I don't think he was saying they were biased against Michigan in the game. As for non-calls in the UND vs UM game, I don't see any reason in arguing over it as the point isn't that Michigan didn't get calls but that the refs were not calling many penalties in either of Michigan's games on either team. Agree with this or not, that is a fact.
At the end of the day, UND and ND both played very disciplined games (or at least disciplined enough according to the refs and that is what matters). Come the NCAA tournament, that is what good teams do. They take away strengths of other teams, in the case of Michigan that is the PP. ND tried and it wasn't enough. UND mostly did and succeeded.
Fighting Sioux 23
New member
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
It's hard to admit your team got smoked by a better opponent...especially when your team really hadn't had to play against anyone who actually plays defense. Perhaps that's the issue for Michigan fans. They are confusing playing defense with penalties?
It's hard to admit your team got smoked by a better opponent...especially when your team really hadn't had to play against anyone who actually plays defense. Perhaps that's the issue for Michigan fans. They are confusing playing defense with penalties?
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
UND's Heavy Line of Johnson, Gardner, and Poganski held their CCM line to a minus 7 rating while they themselves had a combined 2 goals 1 assist and a plus 5 rating. Very impressive. That was the difference among that they just simply outworked the ugly helmets lines 1 thru 4.
UND's Heavy Line of Johnson, Gardner, and Poganski held their CCM line to a minus 7 rating while they themselves had a combined 2 goals 1 assist and a plus 5 rating. Very impressive. That was the difference among that they just simply outworked the ugly helmets lines 1 thru 4.
Dirty
#BanBiddy
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
That can't be right. The three Hobey finalists were a combined minus 7? Are you sure your calculator isn't broken? That's the only rationale explanation.
That can't be right. The three Hobey finalists were a combined minus 7? Are you sure your calculator isn't broken? That's the only rationale explanation.
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
Well, Dirty, they are included in this year's special category dubbed the "Power Play Hobey." It's for players who are good at the power play and nothing else. They don't have to wear pads or set foot inside the defensive zone unless they are bored and want to create a turnover.
Well, Dirty, they are included in this year's special category dubbed the "Power Play Hobey." It's for players who are good at the power play and nothing else. They don't have to wear pads or set foot inside the defensive zone unless they are bored and want to create a turnover.
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I voted for the UND Fighting Upper Plains Redskins, or Fighting Redskins for short. Apparently Redskins is a more acceptable moniker. In fact, I think the NCAA should change all Native American mascots to the Redskins.
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Dirty Dream No. 2
Seeing Other People
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
It's always rich when UM fan starts whining about poor officiating. Michigan for decades lived off biased officiating in the CCHA. Officials conveniently missing late punches or slashes.
I'd just shut up if I were you.
It's always rich when UM fan starts whining about poor officiating. Michigan for decades lived off biased officiating in the CCHA. Officials conveniently missing late punches or slashes.
I'd just shut up if I were you.
Dirty Dream No. 2
Seeing Other People
Re: Midwest regional: Notre dame vs Umich, UND vs Northeastern
This is what happens when you play in the JV of Division 1. You hadn't played a decent team all season, really, and once you finally ran into a real opponent, you pi55ed your shorts and cried for your mothers. You justly deserved Saturday's loss. Your league is a joke.
This is what happens when you play in the JV of Division 1. You hadn't played a decent team all season, really, and once you finally ran into a real opponent, you pi55ed your shorts and cried for your mothers. You justly deserved Saturday's loss. Your league is a joke.
Split-N
All Hail
My team also got smoked by the Sioux in a game worked by the same ECAC crew and none of us are whining about it. Really, the sense of entitlement shown by many of the Michigan people was mind boggling.
The better team beat NU, then Michigan. Officials had nothing to do with either result.