Michigan Wolverines: 2012-2013 Season thread!!!!!!!

[alfablue]

Re: Michigan Wolverines: 2012-2013 Season thread!!!!!!!

First time I walked out of a game in the middle of the period. The play was so bad.

So at the beginning of the game, Trouba was honored for best D at the Jr tournament. All I could think was- "our Trouba?" Sure, he can score, but best D? Sadly, he confirmed my thoughts missing some coverage, and being on the ice for two of BG's goals. For the "best defense", he plays defense not all that well.

Man, the power play is SO bad. Go around a few times, let one rip from the blue line, and once the puck out, well....

Add in some weak goals, and the second we get an ounce of momentum, the other team scores 2, and it's over.

How in the world do these guys get gassed in the third this badly?

Well, at least it will save us some money, since we will probably wont be hosting and CCHA games at home.

 

[pdt1081]

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First time I walked out of a game in the middle of the period. The play was so bad.

So at the beginning of the game, Trouba was honored for best D at the Jr tournament. All I could think was- "our Trouba?" Sure, he can score, but best D? Sadly, he confirmed my thoughts missing some coverage, and being on the ice for two of BG's goals. For the "best defense", he plays defense not all that well.

Man, the power play is SO bad. Go around a few times, let one rip from the blue line, and once the puck out, well....

Add in some weak goals, and the second we get an ounce of momentum, the other team scores 2, and it's over.

How in the world do these guys get gassed in the third this badly?

Well, at least it will save us some money, since we will probably wont be hosting and CCHA games at home.

Michigan looked EXACTLY like BG has the past few years. As for BG, that's the best I have seen them play in a long time.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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I haven't followed much this season on how you guys were doing but after watching tonight I was scratching my head wondering where was the Michigan that I was used to seeing?

 

[UMICH]

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I haven't followed much this season on how you guys were doing but after watching tonight I was scratching my head wondering where was the Michigan that I was used to seeing?

You're not the only one...

 

[UMICH]

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If Red somehow pulls this one out, he should be in for coach of the year.

Coach Berenson is God and capable of unimaginable things but I can't see us even making the Joe.

 

[NotreDameFan27]

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It's all the goaltending (and the fact that your two best defensemen are temporarily out of the lineup). Because you guys have such crappy goaltending your forwards take fewer chances and play a much tigher game. This prevents you from scoring. At this point, confidence has to be a factor as well. Let's hope this doesn't turn into a death spiral situation.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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We all know it's that time of year now were you sprint to the finish and get a home playoff series or not. I will be following more closely now to see if Michigan rises up to the occasion.

 

[alfablue]

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It's all the goaltending (and the fact that your two best defensemen are temporarily out of the lineup). Because you guys have such crappy goaltending your forwards take fewer chances and play a much tigher game. This prevents you from scoring. At this point, confidence has to be a factor as well. Let's hope this doesn't turn into a death spiral situation.

It's way, way, way, way, way more than that.

Goaltending may be the most visible, but it's not the worst of the problems. It's a lot worse when you see two players by the selves in front of him when it's even strenght. It's worse when the opposition PK put more pressure on our goalie than our PP does to theirs. It's worse when out D makes very fast and accurate passes to their D at the point. It's worse when the "two best players" can't pass the puck to each other and keep the puck in the offensive zone on a PP.

Nobody is playing a tight game for anything- they don't seem to care much that they don't play well. As I posted last night- we get a little momentum and attitude, and then some sloppy play lets in a horrible goal, and it's all over. Let alone the dumb penalties- how do you get elbow to the head when you have the puck? Why are you slashing their players behind the net after you rush the puck and get a chance on goal? That has nothing to do with tightness or bad goaltending.

 

[streaker]

Re: Michigan Wolverines: 2012-2013 Season thread!!!!!!!

It's all the goaltending (and the fact that your two best defensemen are temporarily out of the lineup). Because you guys have such crappy goaltending your forwards take fewer chances and play a much tigher game. This prevents you from scoring. At this point, confidence has to be a factor as well. Let's hope this doesn't turn into a death spiral situation.

Actually, no that's not completely accurate. It's not all goaltending, although it has been leaky much of the season. Yielding 30+ shots a game will offer scoring chances when you don't play sound defensive zone coverage, offer turnovers and rebounds. It has been a collective effort to forego the defense and push the rush, then get caught. The forwards still take chances and don't back check effectively. There have been more passengers on the bench this season than on a NYC subway. Our Captain and leading scorer decided to throw an elbow, get suspended and sat out with his -6 rating.

Both Trouba and Merrill were in the lineup last night- Merrill was tentative and ineffective; Trouba is gassed from getting back on Sunday after an 11 hour flight and then trying to play two days later. Clare (-8) is out with a shoulder, Chiasson (-6) got scratched, Serville got run from behind and has what is projected to be a separated shoulder. Szuma is a walk on that, while he works hard, isn't a top six guy. Bennett was our best overall guy this season and took a cheap shot low hip check with a few minutes left and may have a severe knee injury. Thank you Bobby Shea for that one and the 2 minute minor that he got assessed by the two boobs that worked the game. Moffie has been ineffective on both ends of the ice. That's our defensive corps.

You want to reward kids: give little used Andrew Sinelli credit for playing every shift like it was his last. One of the few guys that showed any type of desperation and hustle. There is no heart on this team otherwise.. no one stood up to BG after they started slashing and hacking etc with a four goal lead. It was shameful.

Don't look for it to change. This team has packed it up for the season and it is disgusting.

 

[bluevox]

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Brutal. That's what last night's game was.


I thought Sinelli showed he deserves to play more in the second half. For most of the third period, he was the only guy showing hustle.

We played Merrill and Trouba together. Serville goes out early and then Bennett gets the knee-to-knee. Our defense takes one step forward and two steps back. Hope that those two guys aren't seriously hurt, but from what Streaker says, we might be without Serville for a while.

 

[alfablue]

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but from what Streaker says, we might be without Serville for a while.

I did suffer through half of the third on BTN- no idea way... . But post game, they reported a pretty serious shoulder separation, low end 4, high end 8 weeks out. His season could very well be over. They didn't mention Bennett, even though that check looked very bad, and was very clearly knee to knee.

A team that was a TEAM would have tried to start a fight for that. Instead, they just hung their heads.

5 home games left, we are going to miss Saturday's. I may try to miss others. Hammer- I may have some good seats for the Ferris weekend....

 

[Lawson_lunatic27]

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Goaltending Issues aside... The team played lazy last night. Even in the first period BG consistantly got to the puck first broke up passes while Michigan players just stood there waiting for it to come to them. They showed short spurts of energy, especially after the goal, but soon returned to laziness. A "already defeated' attitude pleagues this team very early in the game.

 

[Caustic Undertow]

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I vented a few thoughts on mgoblog, but as much hand-wringing as we're doing over a Tuesday loss to BG, this is no surprise. This team stinks. It's not a talent problem, either.

It's a heart problem. I have a hard time remembering a team I've rooted for having so little heart. Detroit has had historically bad MLB and NFL teams in the last ten years, but at least those teams just didn't have the horses and they worked hard. This team has more talent relative to its competition but no heart at all. It is a tin man.

Hockey is horrible this year.

And I hate to say this, but this is going to take time to recover from. Merrill and Trouba would be insane to hitch themselves to this ship for another year, so next season will have talent problems as well as a need to rebuild its leadership.

At least the seniors next year can't be any worse.

 

[Biddco]

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Did anyone catch at the beginning of the pregrame show they showed Michigan Tech highlights against UMTC in October within the Michigan lowlights? *facepalm*

 

[BGFan]

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For those of you complaining about the boarding call and the "knee to Knee" (which was actually a hip check), I would suggest that you watch the video if you happened to record it. The BTN announcers found little to nothing wrong with either hit. Tate's hit was legal, he never left the ice, and your player had the puck. The announcers even went so far as to suggest that a later hit by UM on a BG player should've been a boarding call given the criteria of the first call. The hip check by Shea was legal. It was not knee to knee. The replays clearly show that. Unfortunately both hits resulted in injury; it happens. The elbow to the head on Mohler by Trouba (taking him out of the game, btw), on the other hand, was clearly intentional and, again, the announcers thought that he should've been given a major for that. I applaud the general unbiased call of the BTN announcers. I really didn't expect that and it was refreshing.

 

[alfablue]

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For those of you complaining about the boarding call and the "knee to Knee" (which was actually a hip check), I would suggest that you watch the video if you happened to record it. The BTN announcers found little to nothing wrong with either hit. Tate's hit was legal, he never left the ice, and your player had the puck. The announcers even went so far as to suggest that a later hit by UM on a BG player should've been a boarding call given the criteria of the first call. The hip check by Shea was legal. It was not knee to knee. The replays clearly show that. Unfortunately both hits resulted in injury; it happens. The elbow to the head on Mohler by Trouba (taking him out of the game, btw), on the other hand, was clearly intentional and, again, the announcers thought that he should've been given a major for that. I applaud the general unbiased call of the BTN announcers. I really didn't expect that and it was refreshing.

if you say so...

Me, though, I saw that knee hit knee in the replay. Shea *tried* a hip check, and barely missed. I still think that the remaining Michigan players should have at least pushed Shea around, but they couldn't seem to care less.

The other two plays I missed in replay.

 

[streaker]

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For those of you complaining about the boarding call and the "knee to Knee" (which was actually a hip check), I would suggest that you watch the video if you happened to record it. The BTN announcers found little to nothing wrong with either hit. Tate's hit was legal, he never left the ice, and your player had the puck. The announcers even went so far as to suggest that a later hit by UM on a BG player should've been a boarding call given the criteria of the first call. The hip check by Shea was legal. It was not knee to knee. The replays clearly show that. Unfortunately both hits resulted in injury; it happens. The elbow to the head on Mohler by Trouba (taking him out of the game, btw), on the other hand, was clearly intentional and, again, the announcers thought that he should've been given a major for that. I applaud the general unbiased call of the BTN announcers. I really didn't expect that and it was refreshing.

I saw the video at Yostbuilt's site: www.yostbuilt.com and it appears Shea was either dropping down or he lost an edge on the skate and slipped, because he fell after he hit the side of Bennett's knee and took out the linesman.

Either way, he received a "clipping" penalty, so no, the play was NOT legal and, at that point in the game, was unnecessary (dirty) plain and simple.

The Tate hit apparently wasn't legal, either, considering that in the way the rules are being interpreted today, you cannot hit a "vulnerable" opponent either from behind or from the blindside. I can't tell if he was still in stride, which would clearly be charging, but he definitely hit Serville hard while he was turned or vulnerable.

Trouba received a two minute "inadvertent contact to the head" elbowing call. With his history so far, it could have been a major, but was ruled "accidental" from my interpretation. I couldn't tell since Alfa and I sit on the opposite side of where the hit took place behind the net. They did not replay it on the scoreboard for obvious reasons.

Kevin Lynch also got a rightly deserved crosschecking penalty which was pretty blatant. Hard to miss that call.

I suggest that anyone refuting this can contact the league office for clarification, or try to discuss it with Tocco and Aaron. Good luck.

Either way, we have two more injured defensemen. Caustic- I'd hazard to guess that Berenson doesn't want the boys to mix it up, but when it came to what was going on and the calls that were missed (obvious hack on Szuma's stick, broke it in half, no call... hooks, interference etc) it would have been hard to hold back some of the men that wore the block M in the past. Heart issue? I'd parade out all three of Dorothy's friends for this team.

 

[Lawson_lunatic27]

Trouba received a two minute "inadvertent contact to the head" elbowing call. With his history so far, it could have been a major, but was ruled "accidental" from my interpretation. I couldn't tell since Alfa and I sit on the opposite side of where the hit took place behind the net. They did not replay it on the scoreboard for obvious reasons.

Not that I'm a fan of defending the ref's... But i think what made this call upsetting was that on BTN they paused and replayed it 3x showing trouba look at the BG player and then throw the elbow directly to the helmet. BTN got a good shot of it whereas the officials might have missed Trouba's"premeditation." Many calls would probably be changed if looked at 3x over.... So imo its hard to fault the refs on this one.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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The Tate hit apparently wasn't legal, either, considering that in the way the rules are being interpreted today, you cannot hit a "vulnerable" opponent either from behind or from the blindside. I can't tell if he was still in stride, which would clearly be charging, but he definitely hit Serville hard while he was turned or vulnerable.

On TV it looked legal but what makes it a dangerous hit is Yost Arena itself. We all know that's not plexiglas but more like the glass they use in bank and security windows. I've thrown my whole 220# against it without a quiver from it so a check or hit into it without a player seeing it coming runs a high risk of a shoulder / upper body injury or a concussion. I'm surprised that the NCAA doesn't have rules on rink glass for the safety of the players.

 

[streaker]

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On TV it looked legal but what makes it a dangerous hit is Yost Arena itself. We all know that's not plexiglas but more like the glass they use in bank and security windows. I've thrown my whole 220# against it without a quiver from it so a check or hit into it without a player seeing it coming runs a high risk of a shoulder / upper body injury or a concussion. I'm surprised that the NCAA doesn't have rules on rink glass for the safety of the players.

Where that may be a good point, it isn't applicable here. Bennett got hit right at the blueline where the short glass starts- and got hit real low. I am not sure, but they might have replaced the glass with the latest renovations also. If you are talking about the Serville hit, he was about a foot from the glass when he was hit.

Latest update from Matt Slovin (Michigan Daily) via twitter: Mac Bennett has been ruled out for this weekend and possibly for a coupe of weeks. Kevin Clare has been ruled out this weekend. Brennan Serville may skate tomorrow and has not been ruled out yet, considered day to day. No update on any of the injuries. Jeff Rohrkemper will probably move back and play defense.