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Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

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Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

I see we are play AA twice next year, and early in the season too.

that should hopefully help the new coach and team get off on the right foot. Where is the schedule for next season?
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

So JSR, how do you propose to make these changes and improvements within the current budget? Your athletic communications staff is among the best in the GLIAC. They do an outstanding job with hockey as well. They certainly stack up well against the other D-II schools playing D-I hockey.

Are you serious?
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

Considering that I deal with many Sports Information people on a regular basis, from the GLIAC and from college hockey, generally 15-20 schools per year, and have dealt with every school in the WCHA and CCHA and 8-10 others over the years, yes, MTU does a very good job. I have never had a problem with the info that I get from Tech and if more is needed, a phone call or an email is all it takes. I've done it for many years, going back to the time when Dennis Hanks headed the department and through the Dave Fischer era to now. Tech is easily among the tops in the GLIAC. Ferris is another that is very good. Of course their SID came from...Tech. NMU is doing some very good things as well. And the guy working there came from...Tech.

Now when you talk WCHA hockey, and compare info, websites, available content, you have to remember that in the WCHA you have Big Ten programs and budgets at Wisconsin and Minnesota. You have bigger money programs at North Dakota, CC and Denver. Those schools have much bigger staffs and much bigger budgets than does Tech.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

So JSR, how do you propose to make these changes and improvements within the current budget? Your athletic communications staff is among the best in the GLIAC. They do an outstanding job with hockey as well. They certainly stack up well against the other D-II schools playing D-I hockey.

The first thing I would do is get rid of anybody with an attitude like yours; that things can't improve within the current budget. Text on top of a picture; yes they're doing a great job. Flashy's site is far more professional than Tech's and I can guarantee his staff and budget is much smaller than MTU's. And you have no idea how big North Dakotas, Denvers, and CC's budget and staff are compared to MTU's.

http://www.michigantechhuskies.com/...B_OEM_ID=18800&ATCLID=204956273&Q_SEASON=2010
 
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The first thing I would do is get rid of anybody with an attitude like yours; that things can't improve within the current budget. Text on top of a picture; yes they're doing a great job. Flashy's site is far more professional than Tech's and I can guarantee his staff and budget is much smaller than MTU's. And you have no idea how big North Dakotas, Denvers, and CC's budget and staff are compared to MTU's.

http://www.michigantechhuskies.com/...B_OEM_ID=18800&ATCLID=204956273&Q_SEASON=2010

Really JSR? First, I never said things couldn't improve. I said that Tech does a very good job. Especially when compared to other similar schools. No idea how Denver and Tech compare staff and budget wise? Guess my time in both those press boxes and dealing with both those programs would give me no clue.
 
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Really JSR? First, I never said things couldn't improve. I said that Tech does a very good job. Especially when compared to other similar schools. No idea how Denver and Tech compare staff and budget wise? Guess my time in both those press boxes and dealing with both those programs would give me no clue. So how many PR or Sports Information departments have you dealt with? Seen operating from the inside? Talk to any AD's, GM's or SID's about their operation? Ever put a budget together for such an operation?

You implied it. So what are the current budgets and staff for all four schools?
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

You implied it. So what are the current budgets and staff for all four schools?

No, I did not imply it. I asked how do you propose to make these changes and improvements within the current budget? No implication at all, simply asking a question.

North Dakota has five full timers on staff. Tech has two, and Tech's SID also heads the marketing as well. UND's does not. Denver has 7, including a web manager. CC has two full timers strictly handling sports info, but they have a separate three person marketing department. Total, they outnumber Tech 5-3.

And by the way, Flash's site is excellent, one of the better fan sites around college hockey. Love the 75 Championship Game. Zuke, Lyle, Jensen, Lorimer...great names that bring back alot of great Tech hockey memories.
 
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Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

No, I did not imply it. I asked how do you propose to make these changes and improvements within the current budget? No implication at all, simply asking a question.

North Dakota has five full timers on staff. Tech has two, and Tech's SID also heads the marketing as well. UND's does not. Denver has 7, including a web manager. CC has two full timers strictly handling sports info, but they have a separate three person marketing department. Total, they outnumber Tech 5-3.

Budget?
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

No, I did not imply it. I asked how do you propose to make these changes and improvements within the current budget? No implication at all, simply asking a question.

North Dakota has five full timers on staff. Tech has two, and Tech's SID also heads the marketing as well. UND's does not. Denver has 7, including a web manager. CC has two full timers strictly handling sports info, but they have a separate three person marketing department. Total, they outnumber Tech 5-3.

And Cary Eades, assistant UND coach, directly quoted when asked if he would be interested in coaching Tech: "Raise your pay scale. I made more than Jamie last year."

So I would ask about the budget issue, also. I've heard "money is not an issue," but what is the limit? Is there a limit? To the former, I don't know. To the latter, I'm guessing that MTU will still not be on par with the UNDs and MNs of the college hockey world. They can't afford it.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

And Cary Eades, assistant UND coach, directly quoted when asked if he would be interested in coaching Tech: "Raise your pay scale. I made more than Jamie last year."

So I would ask about the budget issue, also. I've heard "money is not an issue," but what is the limit? Is there a limit? To the former, I don't know. To the latter, I'm guessing that MTU will still not be on par with the UNDs and MNs of the college hockey world. They can't afford it.

MTU is doing alot of things wrong in the hockey program IMO that aren't necessarily to do with budget. How many times in the private sector do you read about a manager/CEO who comes in, reduces costs, increases quality, and increases profit. It's not always about more money, it's making the most of the money and resources you have. And regarding the resources tech has (or could have) we all have no idea so it's not worth arguing about. But to say resources are not an issue and then to hire a low budget coach would be egg on her face and make the situation even more emabarrasing than it already is;not sure why she would do that.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

And Cary Eades, assistant UND coach, directly quoted when asked if he would be interested in coaching Tech: "Raise your pay scale. I made more than Jamie last year."

So I would ask about the budget issue, also. I've heard "money is not an issue," but what is the limit? Is there a limit? To the former, I don't know. To the latter, I'm guessing that MTU will still not be on par with the UNDs and MNs of the college hockey world. They can't afford it.

You are likely correct in your guessing. Or close to it. But that is a separate issue here, the budget and staffing levels we are talking about applies to Sports Info/Media relations. As for the hockey program as a whole, though they say money will not be an issue, see if they can match the roughly $400,000 that Red Berenson gets at UMich in total compensation, plus the assistant salaries, the equipment and medical staffing, travel and recruiting budgets and all the other ancillary expenses that come along with it. Then you once you figure what it would take to match the package that Red or Lucia or Gwozdecky gets and what it would take to match it, then add to that how much more it would take to get them to leave strong big time school programs and come to Houghton. I'm hoping the Huskies can find the person to get them on the right track.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

Feel free to have that conversation with all the AD's and SID's you know.

So you don't know is your answer. And so to assume that Tech does not have the budget to be competitive in marketing tools such as websites is completely baseless and does what assuming often does. But I didn't make this assumption.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

MTU is doing alot of things wrong in the hockey program IMO that aren't necessarily to do with budget. How many times in the private sector do you read about a manager/CEO who comes in, reduces costs, increases quality, and increases profit. It's not always about more money, it's making the most of the money and resources you have. And regarding the resources tech has (or could have) we all have no idea so it's not worth arguing about. But to say resources are not an issue and then to hire a low budget coach would be egg on her face and make the situation even more emabarrasing than it already is;not sure why she would do that.


Check my "edit." Boom. Nailed it. Given Eades' quote, it appears to start with the salary, though.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

MTU is doing alot of things wrong in the hockey program IMO that aren't necessarily to do with budget. How many times in the private sector do you read about a manager/CEO who comes in, reduces costs, increases quality, and increases profit. It's not always about more money, it's making the most of the money and resources you have. And regarding the resources tech has (or could have) we all have no idea so it's not worth arguing about. But to say resources are not an issue and then to hire a low budget coach would be egg on her face and make the situation even more emabarrasing than it already is;not sure why she would do that.

Very good points JSR. I thought that statement was a bit far reaching.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

You are likely correct in your guessing. Or close to it. But that is a separate issue here, the budget and staffing levels we are talking about applies to Sports Info/Media relations. As for the hockey program as a whole, though they say money will not be an issue, see if they can match the roughly $400,000 that Red Berenson gets at UMich in total compensation, plus the assistant salaries, the equipment and medical staffing, travel and recruiting budgets and all the other ancillary expenses that come along with it. Then you once you figure what it would take to match the package that Red or Lucia or Gwozdecky gets and what it would take to match it, then add to that how much more it would take to get them to leave strong big time school programs and come to Houghton. I'm hoping the Huskies can find the person to get them on the right track.

I don't believe I ever seen anyone mention Berenson, Lucia, or Gwozdecky for the MTU coaching position; assistants have been mentioned from some of these programs who are making far less than the previously mentioned. You're comparing apples to oranges.
 
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Very good points JSR. I thought that statement was a bit far reaching.

Far-reaching? How? I've heard "money (or budget) is not an issue." Well, how much are you really willing to cut and/or spend? Like JSR says, we won't know, so it's pointless to argue about it. Unless there is something I don't know, MTU simply cannot compete with the "big" programs of the world without some dough. An asst coach to a major program said so himself.

Maybe it's just him. A Husky fan (which I'm not, but I do like them as a "secondary" team) can only hope.

I'd love to see MTU re-emerge in the college hockey world. But as it stands now, and from what I've heard about money, recruiting, etc, it's a ways off. IF it can happen again.

Right now, if MTU can do it....shoot the moon. Go balls out, and get/pay a coach that has no business coaching a dead/buried team (as of in the last 3-4 years). You really can't get much worse.
 
Re: Michigan Tech Offseason Thread I: Not Winning and the ensuing drama.

Check my "edit." Boom. Nailed it. Given Eades' quote, it appears to start with the salary, though.

"The five-year contract puts Hakstol's base salary at $210,000 a year, with incentives of up to 25 percent of that base if he and the team reach certain goals, such as playing in the Frozen Four. The contract also includes $50,000 annually in deferred compensation, and a total of $190,000 that he can split between his coaching staff; they can earn up to 25 percent of that figure in incentives if they and the team meet certain goals. There is no deferred compensation for the other coaches."

I would guess with the incentives it would put Eades at about the 150K range currently. They are spending 450-550K total on all the coaches.

Right now MTU spends about $250K base total and I doubt they are providing any incentives as of late.
 
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