Meth, I Hear You Callin': The Final Season of Breaking Bad

[Shirtless Guy]

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On the bank account situation, it might lead back to Saul...

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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It'd be pretty interesting to see how the bank account could really lead to anything without making Gus (or Mike, or Saul, etc.) look like an amateur. I mean, Walt and Jesse were paid in cash through Saul, and I sincerely doubt that Saul was cashing checks directly from Gus' offshore bank account. I don't doubt that the bank account(s) will be a major clue for Hank, but it would probably remove some of the suspension of disbelief if we find that it leads to anything productive because Gus is a moron. If anything, I'm hoping that it leads towards some shenanigans through Madrigal, which might widen the scope of what Gus's operation really was.

A few other thoughts:

1. Walt's position is not looking so good in the flash-forward cold open. Looks a little disheveled, on the run and on his own to me. Is the machine gun for his last stand? Revenge?
2. How great was it to have Jesse in the background while Walt and Mike bickered?
3. How about Walt's new levels of ego he's achieved from his victory over Gus? "We're done when I say we're done", "Because I said so", and "I forgive you" are pretty clear statements for where he is right now. The last one sure had the same feeling of Michael embracing Fredo at their mother's funeral in Godfather: Part II.
4. Speaking of which, I think we can officially say that the use of the oranges with Beneke were more in line with Vito getting shot in Part I than they were with the Atlantic City massacre in Part III.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Why was Walt "celebrating" his birthday...then using a fake ID to prove it was his birthday. He wouldn't do the thing with the bacon if it wasn't actually his birthday, and why would his fake ID have his real birthday on it?

Also, did anyone notice Walt wheeze/cough in the bathroom during the flash forward? Maybe his cancer comes back, and now he's got nothing to lose, so he's planning on going down fighting.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Why was Walt "celebrating" his birthday...then using a fake ID to prove it was his birthday. He wouldn't do the thing with the bacon if it wasn't actually his birthday, and why would his fake ID have his real birthday on it?

I was thinking about that. The fake id is one of the reasons I think he's on the run. Might be that he didn't see any point in conjuring up a new birthday. To me, he seemed almost morose about his birthday bacon arrangement (like he was secretly wishing he could go back to his 50th birthday and start over), which has me wondering if perhaps something actually has eliminated his family.

Also, did anyone notice Walt wheeze/cough in the bathroom during the flash forward? Maybe his cancer comes back, and now he's got nothing to lose, so he's planning on going down fighting.

I don't think the cancer will ever truly go away. I like to think of Walt's story ending with him surrounded by cash and drugs, trapped on all sides (by the DEA/cartel/Jesse etc. in addition to his now-terminal cancer), having his last stand and getting gunned down. Something to really hammer in a Scarface-like ending to him that would do justice to the "turn Mr. Chips into Scarface" analogy that Vince Gilligan's been using for so long.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I was thinking about that. The fake id is one of the reasons I think he's on the run. Might be that he didn't see any point in conjuring up a new birthday. To me, he seemed almost morose about his birthday bacon arrangement (like he was secretly wishing he could go back to his 50th birthday and start over), which has me wondering if perhaps something actually has eliminated his family.

I'm just thinking about the process of getting a fake ID, if you were trying to disappear. At that point you don't go tell the document forger what your birthday is, you have a picture taken, hand over a wad of cash and get documents back. It seems like something that was in that scene for a reason, it seems important to me. I just don't know how it would be important.

I don't think his family has been eliminated at that point, though I could see them (and by them, I mean Skylar) completely abandoning him and leaving. I could also see Skylar getting arrested, as Walt is fleeing town with a new ID. I don't think there is another player out there, or enough time to introduce a new player, that would eliminate Walt's family. The DEA is all thats left, and they'd arrest Skylar and put Jr and Holly in protective custody, probably with Hank and Marie.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Side note: $100 tip for a Denny's waitress? Is Walter White going to the Tiger Woods School of Having Extramarital Affairs?

 

[French Rage]

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I like how at first Skylar was feeling sorry for Ted, but then when she realized he was afraid of her she got cold and serious.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Side note: $100 tip for a Denny's waitress? Is Walter White going to the Tiger Woods School of Having Extramarital Affairs?

Walter White don't carry less than c-notes anymore.

 

[French Rage]

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I finally saw this for the first time today, but here's a two-month old article complaining about how absurd it is that we'll have to wait a year in between the two halves of season 5.

The season is over when I say it's over.

 

[The Rube]

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Side note: $100 tip for a Denny's waitress? Is Walter White going to the Tiger Woods School of Having Extramarital Affairs?

Money obviously doesn't mean anything to him at that point. First turning down a free meal (although it could be because of the ID thing, but it's a legit fake, and it's a DENNY'S WAITRESS, so what's the big deal?), and then only having 100's (or a 100) in his wallet.

I do think he's alone in that scene. What happened with his family? Dunno. Maybe he's gonna break Skylar outta prison! (Yeah, I put that at about a 1% chance of happening).

 

[MinnFan]

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I'm just thinking about the process of getting a fake ID, if you were trying to disappear. At that point you don't go tell the document forger what your birthday is, you have a picture taken, hand over a wad of cash and get documents back. It seems like something that was in that scene for a reason, it seems important to me. I just don't know how it would be important.

Could be an alibi for whatever he is going to do or to throw off the people who are chasing him. He may have wanted to have her check his ID.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Could be an alibi for whatever he is going to do or to throw off the people who are chasing him. He may have wanted to have her check his ID.

Yeah, I considered that, but he seemed reluctant to show it to her. And I doubt he'd want to be noticed at the time/location that a weapons deal went down.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I do think he's alone in that scene. What happened with his family? Dunno. Maybe he's gonna break Skylar outta prison! (Yeah, I put that at about a 1% chance of happening).

If he's alone, and not cooking anymore, remember that he's broke. Skylar gave his money away. He's going to mighty ****ed about going through what he's gone through and not come out with at least enough money to live on. I think he's going to cook again, he's on a power trip, he needs money again, and now he's the ****ing king. I just don't know how they fit that into 15 more episodes, and at this point, if he doesn't cook again, it seems like the series will be incomplete, but then, that really depends on how they do these next 15 episodes.

 

[jmh]

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If he's alone, and not cooking anymore, remember that he's broke. Skylar gave his money away. He's going to mighty ****ed about going through what he's gone through and not come out with at least enough money to live on. I think he's going to cook again, he's on a power trip, he needs money again, and now he's the ****ing king. I just don't know how they fit that into 15 more episodes, and at this point, if he doesn't cook again, it seems like the series will be incomplete, but then, that really depends on how they do these next 15 episodes.

If he doesn't cook again, he doesn't have a wallet full of Benjamins to tip a Denny's waitress, and he isn't buying an assault rifle from Ellsworth.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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If he doesn't cook again, he doesn't have a wallet full of Benjamins to tip a Denny's waitress, and he isn't buying an assault rifle from Ellsworth.

Good points. Of course, he could just off Jesse and take his money. Or somehow gain access to Gus's warchest. But I would consider him cooking again to be the most likely scenario.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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There is currently a hole in the large-quantity blue meth manufacturing market that Walt, Jesse (and company?) will presumably be happy to fill.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I wonder where he'd set up a lab? He isn't going to want to go back to cooking in the desert in a 30 year old Winnebago, and Walt doesn't have the built in business infrastructure that Gus did. I wonder if he could do it at the car wash?

edit: Does Walt Bring Ted into the fold, and make Ted help him out with this, as repayment for getting the IRS off his back? Ted would presumably have the facilities and capabilities that Walt would be looking for, since he runs a fabrication company.

 

[Priceless]

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I think he cooks again, judging by the poster

He's got 24 cartons of his blue meth, mountains of cash around him and he's in his hazmat suit. I know these aren't stills from the show, but this strongly suggests he cooks again.

Also, the fourth episode is titled "Fifty-One" which appears to be a nod to Walt's 51st birthday. That means the Denny's scene is more than a year in the future.

There is currently a hole in the large-quantity blue meth manufacturing market that Walt, Jesse (and company?) will presumably be happy to fill.

In one of the season previews Walt says exactly that to Jesse.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I think he cooks again, judging by the poster
Also, the fourth episode is titled "Fifty-One" which appears to be a nod to Walt's 51st birthday. That means the Denny's scene is more than a year in the future.

Good catch on the "51" thing!

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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I wonder where he'd set up a lab? He isn't going to want to go back to cooking in the desert in a 30 year old Winnebago, and Walt doesn't have the built in business infrastructure that Gus did. I wonder if he could do it at the car wash?

edit: Does Walt Bring Ted into the fold, and make Ted help him out with this, as repayment for getting the IRS off his back? Ted would presumably have the facilities and capabilities that Walt would be looking for, since he runs a fabrication company.

Amusing return to a forgotten subplot: Walt really has the goods to blackmail Elliot Schwartz, and he turns to Grey Matter for the business backing.