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Massachusetts Question 4: Legailize Pot?

Re: Massachusetts Question 4: Legailize Pot?

ericredaxe said:
On this subject... (and not necessarily asking Scarlet directly)... does pot smoke carry farther than cigarette smoke? I agree that I cant stand second hand smoke. I'd go so far as to advocate for all public smoking to be illegal (tobacco and pot).

Is there a difference between the smoke itself and the odor? Does pot scent carry farther even if the smoke itself is not detectable at that point?
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Made a trip to Amsterdam last October. Entire city smelled like a Peter Tosh concert.
You know the saying, "When in Rome....", so a friend and I sparked it up in a Coffee House (honest, i was just looking for a latte!). Hadn't done that in a loooonnngg time. It resulted in "WWI" (Walking While Impaired). I was fortunate not to do a swan dive into the canal. No way I would have been able to drive. Polished off an entire mushroom pizza and felt much better.
 
Rover said:
I want credit for resisting the temptation to draw a parallel between the most vociferous Sanders supporters and the most strident pro-pot advocates! :D
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Brenthoven said:
And then we have the alcohol equivalent in Papa Hemingway. ;)
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Hemingway wrote garbage when he was drunk. Same as Fitzgerald and Poe. The only one I can think of who wrote better when f-cked up was Baudelaire. Well, not counting Coleridge, but that was a one hit wonder.
 
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Kepler said:
Hemingway wrote garbage when he was drunk. Same as Fitzgerald and Poe. The only one I can think of who wrote better when f-cked up was Baudelaire. Well, not counting Coleridge.
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Would Hunter S Thompson count?
 
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Brenthoven said:
Would Hunter S Thompson count?
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HST did once say that if he did all the drugs he said he did he'd never have been able to write. He called writing the "b-tch goddess" because he had to keep his wits to do it well and he really hated keeping his wits. I mean in the end he literally evicted them from his skull.

But you made me think of Burroughs. He, by all accounts, wrote on heroin, which could be the Secretariat Belmont of WUI. Now I don't care for Burroughs but many do.

Bukowski also wrote stone drunk.

“I like to change liquor stores frequently because the clerks got to know your habits if you went in night and day and bought huge quantities. I could feel them wondering why I wasn’t dead yet and it made me uncomfortable. They probably weren’t thinking any such thing, but then a man gets paranoid when he has 300 hangovers a year.”
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He is hit or miss but man when he hits:

I know. I know.
they are limited, have different
needs and
concerns.

but I watch and learn from them.
I like the little they know,
which is so
much.

they complain but never
worry,
they walk with a surprising dignity.
they sleep with a direct simplicity that
humans just can't
understand.

their eyes are more
beautiful than our eyes.
and they can sleep 20 hours
a day
without
hesitation or
remorse.

when I am feeling
low
all I have to do is
watch my cats
and my
courage
returns.

I study these
creatures.

they are my
teachers.

Or my God, this one, which will sear anyone who has ever tried to write lines to be remembered:

I have just spent one-hour-and-a-half
handicapping tomorrow's
card.
when am I going to get at the poems?
well, they'll just have to wait
they'll have to warm their feet in the
anteroom
where they'll sit gossiping about
me.
"this Chinaski, doesn't he realize that
without us he would have long ago
gone mad, been dead?"
"he knows, but he thinks he can keep
us at his beck and call!"
"he's an ingrate!"
"let's give him writer's block!"
"yeah!"
"yeah!"
"yeah!"
the little poems kick up their heels
and laugh.
then the biggest one gets up and
walks toward the door.
"hey, where are you going?" he is
asked.
"somewhere where I am
appreciated."
then, he
and the others
vanish.

He composed that drunk and I've never written a mediocre line drunk or sober unless it was to quote another.
 
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Re: Massachusetts Question 4: Legailize Pot?

Kepler said:
HST did once say that if he did all the drugs he said he did he'd never have been able to write. He called writing the "b-tch goddess" because he had to keep his wits to do it well and he really hated keeping his wits.

But you made me think of Burroughs. He, by all accounts, wrote on heroin, which could be the Secretariat Belmont of WUI. Now I don't care for Burroughs but many do.
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I think the main point is, that many of the "great" artists over time were on something at the time they came up with what they did. And they were certainly not dumb. :)
 
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Brenthoven said:
I think the main point is, that many of the "great" artists over time were on something at the time they came up with what they did. And they were certainly not dumb. :)
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I'm not the one who conflated high and dumb. :)
 
Re: Massachusetts Question 4: Legailize Pot?

walrus said:
No one but it's not illegal to smoke cigs around your kids
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I don't recall if it ever received much traction, but a few years ago there was a bill introduced into the MN Legislature to ban smoking in the car when you have children riding in it.
 
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St. Clown said:
I don't recall if it ever received much traction, but a few years ago there was a bill introduced into the MN Legislature to ban smoking in the car when you have children riding in it.
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True in several First World states IINM.
 
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St. Clown said:
I don't recall if it ever received much traction, but a few years ago there was a bill introduced into the MN Legislature to ban smoking in the car when you have children riding in it.
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Its illegal in Maine to smoke in your car with kids in it. Legal or illegal only idiots would expose their kids to smoke like that whether its pot or tobacco.
 
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Question for Massachusetts residents: have tobacco companies been sponsoring many "yes" vote ads?

I've heard that tobacco companies are looking to trademark the names of various strands, get involved in manufacture and distribution of paraphernalia, etc. Have no idea how true any of those stories might be.
 
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