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Massachusetts Question 4: Legailize Pot?

FreshFish said:
Question for Massachusetts residents: have tobacco companies been sponsoring many "yes" vote ads?

I've heard that tobacco companies are looking to trademark the names of various strands, get involved in manufacture and distribution of paraphernalia, etc. Have no idea how true any of those stories might be.
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Bunked. In the states where it's legal all the owners must be legal residents in said state.
 
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FreshFish said:
Question for Massachusetts residents: have tobacco companies been sponsoring many "yes" vote ads?

I've heard that tobacco companies are looking to trademark the names of various strands, get involved in manufacture and distribution of paraphernalia, etc. Have no idea how true any of those stories might be.
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This is the only "yes" ad I've seen.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/yes_on_4_marijuana_legalizatio.html
 
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FreshFish said:
Question for Massachusetts residents: have tobacco companies been sponsoring many "yes" vote ads?

I've heard that tobacco companies are looking to trademark the names of various strands, get involved in manufacture and distribution of paraphernalia, etc. Have no idea how true any of those stories might be.
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US cigar manufacturers have done that to traditional cuban cigar names
 
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I love how the guys footing the bill of the No! side are the existing small growers who are going to be destroyed as soon as it's legal. (And the private prison industry, obviously.)

It's Prohibition 2.0. We'll save more on crime and incarceration than we'll make on tax revenue and we'll make a fortune on tax revenue.

Wonder what the tipping point is? I'd guess around 20 states and 10 years of full legalization. That's also ten more years of die-off of the cranks who still grovel to the memory of J. Edgar Hoover.
 
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How many people are actually incarcerated for having a joint? I often hear the prison argument but are that many people in the clink for having a marijuana plant in their basement? Especially on a first offense?
 
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Rover said:
How many people are actually incarcerated for having a joint? I often hear the prison argument but are that many people in the clink for having a marijuana plant in their basement? Especially on a first offense?
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I think Louisiana will put you jail for small amounts
 
Rover said:
How many people are actually incarcerated for having a joint? I often hear the prison argument but are that many people in the clink for having a marijuana plant in their basement? Especially on a first offense?
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If I understood the ballot question from a couple of years ago, In Massachusetts, possession of a small amount is just a civil infraction.
 
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The penalties associated with selling or just possessing large amounts and the black market is the real issue. As is how much we spend on this moronic war on drugs. But weed smells bad better keep it illegal!
 
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ericredaxe said:
If I understood the ballot question from a couple of years ago, In Massachusetts, possession of a small amount is just a civil infraction.
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Correct, and we already have medical pot. I'm real curious if people are actually in the clink just for pot, or if they're in the clink where pot was part of a charge along with other drugs. We hear that a lot (somebody serving hard time for smoking a joint) but is it really true?
 
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Rover said:
Correct, and we already have medical pot. I'm real curious if people are actually in the clink just for pot, or if they're in the clink where pot was part of a charge along with other drugs. We hear that a lot (somebody serving hard time for smoking a joint) but is it really true?
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I suspect it's the full range of criminality created by any prohibition: production, transport, storage, sale, possession, usage.
 
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Kepler said:
I suspect it's the full range of criminality created by any prohibition: production, transport, storage, sale, possession, usage.
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But, lets put sellers aside for a minute and focus on users. How many people are actually serving jail time for using pot?
 
Rover said:
But, lets put sellers aside for a minute and focus on users. How many people are actually serving jail time for using pot?
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Not as many as are often portrayed, but more than you likely think. I suppose alot of it depends on how you classify people who are in jail for things like probation violation where the violation is smoking pot.
 
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unofan said:
Not as many as are often portrayed, but more than you likely think. I suppose alot of it depends on how you classify people who are in jail for things like probation violation where the violation is smoking pot.
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I personally don't think that counts. Some probationers can get violated for drinking, and booze is legal. Its a function of the terms of your release. Now I'm curious how often that situation occurs.
 
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No idea but in a state like Illinois where a small amount could get you a felony its not like jail is the only issue to consider here. And I wouldn't doubt that Illinois is more lenient than some states.

But that's only a small fraction of the bigger picture.
 
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Since no one from Colorado seems to have replied, been here since 2010 and I'd say nothing has really changed since legalization. I do believe that there is some method for testing driving under the influence amounts if you get pulled over, but I couldn't tell any specifics (we've had it for a while now, so they must have thought of something).

Though now people often suggest trying to solve any funding problems that come along by using taxes from marijuana, as if it brings in an extra trillion dollars. They did set the taxes here crazy high, like 25-30%.

I don't smoke, but it's nice that my wife can take a hit or two to help her anxiety if we are at a party, or (ironically?) a beerfest since she doesn't drink much.
 
William Blake said:
Since no one from Colorado seems to have replied, been here since 2010 and I'd say nothing has really changed since legalization. I do believe that there is some method for testing driving under the influence amounts if you get pulled over, but I couldn't tell any specifics (we've had it for a while now, so they must have thought of something).

Though now people often suggest trying to solve any funding problems that come along by using taxes from marijuana, as if it brings in an extra trillion dollars. They did set the taxes here crazy high, like 25-30%.

I don't smoke, but it's nice that my wife can take a hit or two to help her anxiety if we are at a party, or (ironically?) a beerfest since she doesn't drink much.
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So where is it sold?

Are there laws about how it can be advertised etc?
 
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