Maine Summer 2013 - Pizza Season

[amherstblackbear]

Re: Maine Summer 2013 - Pizza Season

Agree on BC staff. I'm kind of curious about the line of succession there, and I'm bored with the lack of news from Orono

Hopefully the committee can identify a shortlist within the next week or so. Really, that should be the quick part. It's the interviews, offers, and negotiation stages where this could slow down.

 

[all bear]

Re: Maine Summer 2013 - Pizza Season

Agree on BC staff. I'm kind of curious about the line of succession there, and I'm bored with the lack of news from Orono

Hopefully the committee can identify a shortlist within the next week or so. Really, that should be the quick part. It's the interviews, offers, and negotiation stages where this could slow down.

I know. The winner may be the one that doesnt fall asleep on the whole process and doesnt forget he submitted his own name. Yawn.

 

[all bear]

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I thought Corkums comments were kind of mild compared to what he could have said.

So who do you think are real candidates for the job among the names we've heard?
Gwoz
Corkum
greg Cronin
?
?
I don't see Guy Perron or Campbell Blair or Pellerin. Jack Capuano makes to much money to come back here. No BC assts are coming here.

Maybe Jack has more money than he can ever spend now and might entertain a coaching job...who knows. He has a residence in Bangor ?

 

[DoubleA]

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So who here thinks Gwozdecky is or will be on the list for the search committee to review? I am skeptical that he will throw his hat in the ring.

Move to Orono for a cut in pay? Hmmm........... Possible, not probable.

 

[Runsub5]

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Would not rule out Leaman. Possible dark horse and I think would be very favorably considered. Then I think there will one or possibly two out of the blue unexpected guys throw their names in....who? Couldnt tell ya, but you mentioned Rick Bennett...could happen.

Leaman will not be a candidate. There will be division 1 assistants apply and possibly a few head coaches who are not committed to long term contracts. I have no idea who these people are. Corkum is a strong candidate and came across as a self-promoter. A person who wants the job has to sell himself, I have no problem with that. I don't think it was proper to sell himself on a public forum using all the adjectives that he knew fans wanted to hear. He knows all about "smash mouth hockey" (his quote) , I think we saw that in Diamond and will not work in Hockey East.

 

[gscott13]

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http://bangordailynews.com/2013/04/...aine-has-passion-for-winning/?ref=regionstate

apparently kerluke saw the writing on the wall that there was no way in hell he was going to be the head guy... wonder if the "endorsement" he gave corkum effectively purchases his retention should corks get the job...

i have no problem with corkum as head coach, but i certainly don't want to see 2/3 of the staff that was previously on board... would feel too much like status quo

 

[all bear]

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Leaman will not be a candidate. There will be division 1 assistants apply and possibly a few head coaches who are not committed to long term contracts. I have no idea who these people are. Corkum is a strong candidate and came across as a self-promoter. A person who wants the job has to sell himself, I have no problem with that. I don't think it was proper to sell himself on a public forum using all the adjectives that he knew fans wanted to hear. He knows all about "smash mouth hockey" (his quote) , I think we saw that in Diamond and will not work in Hockey East.

What makes you so sure Leaman will not be a candidate?

 

[Chuck Murray]

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apparently kerluke saw the writing on the wall that there was no way in hell he was going to be the head guy... wonder if the "endorsement" he gave corkum effectively purchases his retention should corks get the job...

i have no problem with corkum as head coach, but i certainly don't want to see 2/3 of the staff that was previously on board... would feel too much like status quo

Looks like Kerluke played his only real card, given his very limited options at Orono. If Corkum is indeed retained, I still think it would be difficult for Kerluke to return. As you said ... it would be too much like the status quo. But if Corkum doesn't get the top job, I do think Kerluke may have an outside shot at returning to his assistant's role. Not to beat a dead horse here, but if there is a newcomer brought in who does not have a history with Corkum, I really don't see why that coach would be eager to retain Corkum.

FWIW - I'm not blaming Corkum for saying what he said about TW. As I said initially, I saw/see it as an "all or nothing" grab by someone who is desperate to land the UMaine HC job, and if the job's that important to him, then this is probably going to be his best (likely only?) shot at landing the job, so he's letting it all hang out. Good for him.

What I am saying is that other folks in the UMaine process may not appreciate the way he's gone about his business post-TW, and may hold it against him during the process. And if you don't think other D-1 coaches have taken note of his comments, then I think you are being naive. People can have long memories on things like this. And while I'm sure there is always a certain amount of professional friction between the kind of ambitious people you find coaching at this level, most of that stuff is kept under the tent, which is why Corkum's post-TW comments stood out so much. I suspect it will end up biting him in the backside, but I'll give him some credit for having the courage of his convictions - even if it does mean in doing so, he threw his former boss "under the bus" in what could turn out to be a prototypical "career limiting move".

Time will tell. One way or the other, it does make the next few weeks more interesting than usual.

 

[walrus]

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I think Leamans No Comment leaves the door open, depends on his contract though. Maine isn't buying him out but there may be an escape clause? Jack Capuano may have enough money, pro coach to a college coach, just don't see it.

 

[Chuck Murray]

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No, I actually live in Newfields, NH. Did you know there also is a Newfield, ME ? Neither did I.

Wow - this takes "stalking" to a whole new level. Thought you were only stalking my posts, until this comes out ...

 

[Hokydad]

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Many out there in the hockey world are starting to feel/believe one thing.

Shawn Walsh was Maine hockey. It sucked before he got there and outside the first 3-5 years after he left, has done so again. TW did have a nice run at first but prettty much off what SW had built.
It isnt like Maine has ever done anything without his fingerprints on it.
People talk like it would be a step up for NL to leave PC and go to Maine? PC pays about 70K more, private school that can do what they want fund wise(Basketball revenue assures that) and the fact is, it is a better college by a wide margin. Just dumped 20 million+ into the facility with zero discussion. Maine cant do that without an act of God+
Why would someone leave PC for a 70K+ pay cut, private, far superior college with private funding in place? They wouldnt

 

[Chuck Murray]

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I think Leamans No Comment leaves the door open, depends on his contract though. Maine isn't buying him out but there may be an escape clause?

I think the "no comment" earns Leaman a possible raise and/or extension at PC, as another poster mentioned previously. See Umile, Dick and UMass-Amherst circa 2001.

Unless UMaine has adjusted its payscale, and with Leaman reportedly still having 4 years left on his PC deal, I'm not sure his moving to UMaine at this point makes sense? Two years ago, I'm sure he'd have been all over it. But with all the positive momentum he's got going on and off the ice at PC - plus moving his family yet again - not so sure now.

Stranger things have happened no doubt, but I would really be quite surprised - shocked even - to see Leaman move again this quickly. But if I were on the UMaine committee, I'd definitely be making a call to Leaman to test the waters, and if there was interest, I would put him at the top of my list.

 

[DoubleA]

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http://bangordailynews.com/2013/04/...aine-has-passion-for-winning/?ref=regionstate

apparently kerluke saw the writing on the wall that there was no way in hell he was going to be the head guy... wonder if the "endorsement" he gave corkum effectively purchases his retention should corks get the job...

i have no problem with corkum as head coach, but i certainly don't want to see 2/3 of the staff that was previously on board... would feel too much like status quo

"Bob Corkum's status as interim neither helps nor hurts his chances. Bob is aware of that, and is interested in the job." Steve Abbott

I'm not thinking he'll be on the short list when the Search Committee boils it down to 3 or 4 candidates. I give it a 10% chance.

 

[Hokydad]

"Bob Corkum's status as interim neither helps nor hurts his chances. Bob is aware of that, and is interested in the job." Steve Abbott

I'm not thinking he'll be on the short list when the Search Committee boils it down to 3 or 4 candidates. I give it a 10% chance.

100% chance he will be on it

 

[Chuck Murray]

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100% chance he will be on it

50% chance he will be on the final "short list", but only a 10% chance he gets it.

 

[DoubleA]

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100% chance he will be on it

No he won't.

 

[Hokydad]

No he won't.

Find out soon enough

 

[gscott13]

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100% chance he will be on it

agreed. even if the committee knows definitively that they do not want him to be the next head coach, they will keep him on the "short-list." If nothing else, it keeps the carrot dangled in front of him while he fulfills his interim duties... not saying that it would happen, but the disincentive of not having him on it could have a negative impact on whatever recruiting/training is currently under way.

 

[amherstblackbear]

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A quick note on head coach salary economics

What's the latest revised capacity at Alfond? 5100?

Figure 17 games, and an average of, say, $16 per ticket (not sure if hockey gets full value for student tix). Alfond at capacity = $1.39m, not counting concessions and merch.

Selling 4100 tickets, like this past season = $1.12m

So even if Maine throws caution to the wind and stretches to $250k for the next coach. That coach needs to sell an extra 200 tickets per game (at most, since I'm only looking at tix) for the university to break even. Anything above 200 tickets per game is pure profit, compared to the 2012-2013 baseline.

The next coach doesn't have to be a miracle worker. He doesn't need to solve the national economy. If he can generate enough excitement to get attendance back to 4500-4600 per game, he'll not only pay for himself, but put another $60-$70k back into the program. And if the next coach succeeds to the point of bringing near-sellouts back, he'll pay for himself and still put an extra $200k in the program. And that's at $250k. Maybe Maine doesn't have to go that high.

I'm not necessarily saying to throw caution to the wind . . . just don't be penny-wise and pound-foolish. If the committee really thinks someone can succeed, and they don't hire him because the two sides are $20k - $30k apart on salary . . . they might only be hurting themselves.

 

[all bear]

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Wow - this takes "stalking" to a whole new level. Thought you were only stalking my posts, until this comes out ...

So you dont believe I live in the great town of Newfields, huh? Howdy neighbor Just thought it best to keep a close eye on a closet Maine fan.

Far as Leaman goes, why in chits sake would he want to be a head hockey coach at a basketball school when he can literally come to Maine and , as Walrus elucidated, be a God in Orono? With actual fan support Of course he would. And when you factor in the high cost of living in Providence, that small difference in salary is peanuts, especially when you are approaching 200k anyway. My prediction, Leaman by way of his no comment comment is very interested in the job and he knows this area...I wont be at all shocked to see him pack up and head back to the Orono area.

As Hoky said, Corkums a lock to be in the top 3 finalists, and greater than 50% of landing the job. I sure hope he didnt hurt yours or Timmays feelings too bad there Mr. Murray. Let me know if I need to stop into RiteAid on the way home and pick you up a sympathy card. I can drop it off at your house after work ,eh neighbor.