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Maine Offseason 2020: We Stay Home But Swayman Leaves

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AMC said:
I'm okay with hiring someone who wants to use the school as a stepping stone. You can't move onwards and upwards if you don't have success. If Moore wants to try to take five years and get Maine back to the Frozen Four and use that to get NHL attention, fine by me.
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100% correct. It would be a problem we would love to have.
 
The person I was hoping for has let me know he won't be putting his name forward for the job. We're both of the belief that this search committee basically exists to satisfy an HR need and to pacify some monied interests who insist on a 'national search' to find the next coach. Unless something unusual happens, the job is Guite's. Considering our program has had four head coaches and half have died in that role, I hope Ben eats a healthy diet and gets cancer screenings on a regular basis.

On an administrative note, I see this thread is well over 1000 posts and hasn't closed. If people want it, this thread can be closed up and a new one started. I'm thinking a good time would be when a new permanent coach is officially named.
 
ticapnews said:
The person I was hoping for has let me know he won't be putting his name forward for the job. We're both of the belief that this search committee basically exists to satisfy an HR need and to pacify some monied interests who insist on a 'national search' to find the next coach. Unless something unusual happens, the job is Guite's. Considering our program has had four head coaches and half have died in that role, I hope Ben eats a healthy diet and gets cancer screenings on a regular basis.

On an administrative note, I see this thread is well over 1000 posts and hasn't closed. If people want it, this thread can be closed up and a new one started. I'm thinking a good time would be when a new permanent coach is officially named.
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That's probably a good idea, regarding the thread. A pretty disappointing and uninspired choice if they just hand it to Guite on a silver platter like the rumors suggest.
 
amkirby10 said:
That's probably a good idea, regarding the thread. A pretty disappointing and uninspired choice if they just hand it to Guite on a silver platter like the rumors suggest.
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Do you think there is anyone out there who understands Maine’s issues and shortcomings better than Ben? I know he might not be exactly who every better wants, but I’m convinced he might be the best choice.

I would love for someone to ask him how he is going to get the next Corey Larose or Steve Kariya to Orono. It would be very interesting to hear his answer.
 
I specificially want someone who will STFU about “Maine’s shortcomings” and stop leaning on that crap as some kind of crutch and excuse for mediocrity
 
Barr or Moore would be interesting choices but we all know that it will be Guite that is chosen as the next permanent HC. What's another 3 or 4 years off from our lives witnessing the slow methodical death of UM Hockey? I'm hoping that if I live to be at least 80 years old that I will witness someone outside the Six Degrees of Shawn Walsh circle hired......wouldn't that be something?!?

Regarding Montgomery.......give it up. As much as I like him.....he is damaged goods.
 
Drew S. said:
Do you think there is anyone out there who understands Maine’s issues and shortcomings better than Ben? I know he might not be exactly who every better wants, but I’m convinced he might be the best choice.
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The University of Maine has not run a search that was truly open and national since 1984. The other two times we hired the guy who was standing next to the last guy and the guy who used to stand next to the other guy.

The only time the hire was good was in 1984 when it was a competitive national search. Maybe let’s try doing that again.
 
"National searches" at UM have yielded pretty good results across the sports spectrum.......hard to argue with Shawn Walsh, Joanne P. McCallie (women's hoop) & John Giannini (men's hoop) had incredibly successful runs in their respective sports. Some of the worst have been the result of cronyism hires (Blodgett, Woodward, Gendron). UM ADs through the years have also let coaches languish for way too long when it is obvious to everyone else that they overstayed their welcome......it's been frustrating to say the least.
 
Drew S. said:
Do you think there is anyone out there who understands Maine’s issues and shortcomings better than Ben? I know he might not be exactly who every better wants, but I’m convinced he might be the best choice.

I would love for someone to ask him how he is going to get the next Corey Larose or Steve Kariya to Orono. It would be very interesting to hear his answer.
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It would be stupid for the administration to decide Ben is the best choice without first doing due diligence and seeing who else is interested and what they would bring to the table.

I'm convinced Maine needs a head coach that has no connection to the Gendron regime.
 
umhockey91 said:
we all know that it will be Guite that is chosen as the next permanent HC
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Why do we know that? Corkum was made interim head coach after Whitehead was fired, and even posted on this very forum lobbying for the job. He didn't get the job.

Why do we all assume Guite is a foregone conclusion?
 
BassAle said:
you don't think there are UMaine employees with DUIs on their record?
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And worse sins..., to include previous coaches. But I guess here in Maine we are different then other teams that don’t have to deal with a morality threshold that operates under a “once a sinner, always a sinner” mindset. What happened to the clean up your act or else, mindset???
Geezum, GW Bush couldn’t be hired at Maine but okayed to play Pres, LOL. Bad comparison I know, but I still like it......lol.
 
BassAle said:
It would be stupid for the administration to decide Ben is the best choice without first doing due diligence and seeing who else is interested and what they would bring to the table.

I'm convinced Maine needs a head coach that has no connection to the Gendron regime.
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They absolutely should see who else is out there, kick the tires, etc. I’d be surprised if anyone better emerges though. I don’t think change for the sake of change works out as well as people hope either.

I really do think Ben has a number of positive things going for him too: he was a hero on a national championship at Maine, he met his wife at Maine, he had a solid NHL career, and he’s familiar with Maine right now. The key for him is going to be bridging the gap between the teams he played on and where Maine is right now.

One tip I would give Ben is Maine needs to get back to Ontario. That has always been fertile ground for Maine and was largely ignored during Red’s tenure.
 
BassAle said:
Why do we know that? Corkum was made interim head coach after Whitehead was fired, and even posted on this very forum lobbying for the job. He didn't get the job.

Why do we all assume Guite is a foregone conclusion?
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Because; tipcapnews says so...he knows the in's and outs of the program...plus he is the architect of the 92-93 NC team.
 
Drew S. said:
They absolutely should see who else is out there, kick the tires, etc. I’d be surprised if anyone better emerges though. I don’t think change for the sake of change works out as well as people hope either.

I really do think Ben has a number of positive things going for him too: he was a hero on a national championship at Maine, he met his wife at Maine, he had a solid NHL career, and he’s familiar with Maine right now. The key for him is going to be bridging the gap between the teams he played on and where Maine is right now.

One tip I would give Ben is Maine needs to get back to Ontario. That has always been fertile ground for Maine and was largely ignored during Red’s tenure.
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Is he a good coach? Do we know that? The literal only coaching jobs he has ever held are at the University of Maine under Red Gendron.
 
BassAle said:
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Why do we all assume Guite is a foregone conclusion?
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Because the AD is not fully committed to doing a national search for the best candidate. He is putting together a small search committee only to satisfy HR before hiring Guite permanently. Probably because the department has no money to bring in a proven candidate. He will mention other reasons why he stuck with Guite, but the bottom line is money.
 
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