Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

[Priceless]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Only three teams have as many as three appearances in the Frozen Four in the last 10 years. BC has 6, North Dakota has 5 and Maine has 3. 12 teams made one appearance.

 

[Drew S.]

MN was in the FF two years ago and was #1 much of last year, while Michigan has been in 2 of the last 6, including the title game in 2011. MN is currently ranked #1, Michigan is #4, UND is #6 and Maine isn't even in the top 40! Are you trying to suggest that those teams don't have a brighter future than Maine? Sure things might not be like they were15 years ago, one being that Maine is no longer rubbing shoulders with the big boys and likely won't be any time soon...

How times have changed if reaching two frozen fours in six years qualifies you as an upper echelon team. There certainly is nothing as prestigious as being ranked in the top 10 three weeks into the season, nothing I can say to that.

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Two at Orono with UMass after UMass just sweeps Michign State in Amherst... what do you say Black bear fans... How does this series go??

I pray Gendron has the heat turned up. He needs to set a tone.

Planning to drive over to see Friday's game... And, just as I did v. SLU, I'm hoping for a split, but won't be surprised by a UMass sweep.

Red has the team playing more aggressively for sure, but, as has been noted many times on here, the basic problem with Maine is its personnel; this team is stocked with 3rd-4th line types.

Tim's coaching style wasn't his undoing as much as was his failure to recruit. Red realizes this, and must be allowed some time to turn that around. As he said during a recent interview: "The only thing that mattas around heeyah is winning hawkey games."

He gets it, I think.

 

[walrus]

Red has the team playing more aggressively for sure, but, as has been noted many times on here, the basic problem with Maine is its personnel; this team is stocked with 3rd-4th line types.

Tim's coaching style wasn't his undoing as much as was his failure to recruit. Red realizes this, and must be allowed some time to turn that around. As he said during a recent interview: "The only thing that mattas around heeyah is winning hawkey games."

He gets it, I think.

True, 3 liners up the ,..... I see nothing better than a split, beating Mich st twice isn't that great but

 

[carltonbarrett]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Only three teams have as many as three appearances in the Frozen Four in the last 10 years. BC has 6, North Dakota has 5 and Maine has 3. 12 teams made one appearance.

Maine 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago has nothing to do with this conversation as the team was still hanging on to the past (i.e. the Walsh era). How many FF's do you think Maine will make in the next 10 years, that's the real question....

 

[Runsub5]

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..........Tim's coaching style wasn't his undoing as much as was his failure to recruit.........

Very true. Red is going to face the same challenges in the recruiting wars. I hope he is successful.

 

[Drew S.]

Very true. Red is going to face the same challenges in the recruiting wars. I hope he is successful.

I don't think it was the recruiting as much as managing the goaltending. Maine really struggled there after Lundin left. It seemed like the team blew hot and cold a lot more than other teams too. Even in the same game sometimes there would be wild swings.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Maine 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago has nothing to do with this conversation as the team was still hanging on to the past (i.e. the Walsh era). How many FF's do you think Maine will make in the next 10 years, that's the real question....

Won't make it this year or next. I'd bet money on that. Until we see what kind of recruiting Red can do, who knows. One thing I do believe, Red can close a deal on top recruit.

 

[umainesuperfan]

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I don't think it was the recruiting as much as managing the goaltending. Maine really struggled there after Lundin left. It seemed like the team blew hot and cold a lot more than other teams too. Even in the same game sometimes there would be wild swings.

if we were to draw up a pie chart of TW's undoing, the overall recruiting would be the major part of it. with all due respect the talent level on the team last year was so low that they could have had henrik lundqvist out there and they still would have struggled to win games and score goals. was poor goaltending a factor, yes, but the overall talent level was, in my opinion the major piece.

 

[BoSox3066]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Last year yeah. If the team had Henrik Lundqvist Gustav Nyquist's second or third years, or the following year Abbott was up for the the Hobey, they'd probably have two NCAA titles.

Whitehead's undoing was consistency in recruiting, and failure to coach defense. He'd hit big on a class (Abbott, Flynn and company) and then whiff for three years, which set up a doldrom year like last year every few seasons. Then the years the class he hit on was ready to make noise, they'd cough up leads and had the worst save percentage in the country. It's not black and white, it's a little of both.

 

[Priceless]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

It's not black and white, it's a little of both.

Blue and white?

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Won't make it this year or next. I'd bet money on that. Until we see what kind of recruiting Red can do, who knows. One thing I do believe, Red can close a deal on top recruit.

Most likely by the time year 3 starts up we will be able to gauge what progress Gendron has accomplished,by that time he(Gendron)and his Assistants(Leach/Guite)will have 2 full recruiting seasons in...it won't be easy and it will take time...I would rather take my chances with Gendron & Co. then what was in place the last 5-6 years...Patience is the word for this Team going into this season and the next.

 

[BU2K]

Lots of folks referred to that dope carlton as Chrissy in the past 2 years .. Nice try though They also called him eagle bunnie and some girls name. Explains my belief his/her bra size is larger than his IQ

Cath Harris I think it was. Also oldsalty.

Not enough activity on the BU thread to keep him busy and we don't miss him.

 

[UncleRay]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Go away, little troll.

 

[umainesuperfan]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Most likely by the time year 3 starts up we will be able to gauge what progress Gendron has accomplished,by that time he(Gendron)and his Assistants(Leach/Guite)will have 2 full recruiting seasons in...it won't be easy and it will take time...I would rather take my chances with Gendron & Co. then what was in place the last 5-6 years...Patience is the word for this Team going into this season and the next.

unless gendron culls some of the current team members or gets rid of a couple of next year's recruits and brings in more of "his guys", it won't be until year 3 that Gendron even gets his first recruiting class in. To be clear, i'm not excuse making, but with the next year's recruiting class already fairly full, I dont' know how easy it will be to create meaningful roster turnover and improve skill level.

When Barron took the women's bball job, he had an opportunity to completely clean house and went and got 9 of his own players. Boom, instantaneous roster turnover. With Gendron, he'll have to wait a bit longer. For me, I'll expect a complete culture change, a higher standard of play in terms of consistency, etc the next two seasons, and then I expect an excellent recruiting class for the fall of 2015 and upward progress from there. reasonably this team will not make the NCAA's until at least 2015-2016, if not later, but at that point they should make the tournament 3 out of every 5 years at least and always be good, no true gutter years. this program is capable of reloading not rebuilding with the right guy at the helm, and I think Gendron can pull it off.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

unless gendron culls some of the current team members or gets rid of a couple of next year's recruits and brings in more of "his guys", it won't be until year 3 that Gendron even gets his first recruiting class in. To be clear, i'm not excuse making, but with the next year's recruiting class already fairly full, I dont' know how easy it will be to create meaningful roster turnover and improve skill level.

When Barron took the women's bball job, he had an opportunity to completely clean house and went and got 9 of his own players. Boom, instantaneous roster turnover. With Gendron, he'll have to wait a bit longer. For me, I'll expect a complete culture change, a higher standard of play in terms of consistency, etc the next two seasons, and then I expect an excellent recruiting class for the fall of 2015 and upward progress from there. reasonably this team will not make the NCAA's until at least 2015-2016, if not later, but at that point they should make the tournament 3 out of every 5 years at least and always be good, no true gutter years. this program is capable of reloading not rebuilding with the right guy at the helm, and I think Gendron can pull it off.

It will be interesting to see in the next 2 years if some of the Recruits from the past Staff decide to leave and "IF" 1 or 2 on the present Team decide to Transfer. Figure their will be wholesale changes both on and off the ice @ the U.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

unless gendron culls some of the current team members or gets rid of a couple of next year's recruits and brings in more of "his guys", it won't be until year 3 that Gendron even gets his first recruiting class in. To be clear, i'm not excuse making, but with the next year's recruiting class already fairly full, I dont' know how easy it will be to create meaningful roster turnover and improve skill level.

When Barron took the women's bball job, he had an opportunity to completely clean house and went and got 9 of his own players. Boom, instantaneous roster turnover. With Gendron, he'll have to wait a bit longer. For me, I'll expect a complete culture change, a higher standard of play in terms of consistency, etc the next two seasons, and then I expect an excellent recruiting class for the fall of 2015 and upward progress from there. reasonably this team will not make the NCAA's until at least 2015-2016, if not later, but at that point they should make the tournament 3 out of every 5 years at least and always be good, no true gutter years. this program is capable of reloading not rebuilding with the right guy at the helm, and I think Gendron can pull it off.

It will be interesting to see in the next 2 years if some of the Recruits from the past Staff decide to leave and "IF" 1 or 2 on the present Team decide to Transfer. Figure their will be wholesale changes both on and off the ice @ the U.

 

['93'99??]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

So if you live in Southern Maine you can t watch the WVII/fox televised games unless you get all those regional fox sports channels?

 

[umainesuperfan]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

It will be interesting to see in the next 2 years if some of the Recruits from the past Staff decide to leave and "IF" 1 or 2 on the present Team decide to Transfer. Figure their will be wholesale changes both on and off the ice @ the U.

The way I see it, this team is stocked with 3rd and 4th line talent. since they are being forced to play up lines, they look worse than they actually are.

As a result, I think Gendron should be going after 2 blue chippers a year and make them your primary focus. give them the world. tell them that you're bringing them in and you want them to be leaders from day 1. tell them that they can be part of rebuilding a once proud program. if the program is on the upswing UMaine always draws well on TV and on the road so they will have tons of exposure and they'll be tabbed as being the players responsible for a revival of the Maine hockey program. Everything else is gravy.

 

[Priceless]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

So if you live in Southern Maine you can t watch the WVII/fox televised games unless you get all those regional fox sports channels?

Fox College Sports Atlantic. It is channel 623 on DirecTV.