What's new
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

If programs like Lowell, Providence, Michigan Tech, etc were able to find coaches that have turned things around, I have to believe Maine can find someone a lot better than what Red Gendron has done so far. Might not ever get back to Shawn Walsh level, but you'd be better off with Tim Whitehead at this point. Does anyone know what Maine pays compared to the programs I mentioned?

Delayed response here but this question has had me wondering for some time - what coaches’ salaries are. With some quick and dirty internet searching here is a mix, can’t speak to accuracy, it’s what shows up.

Shawns era was an anomaly for us, he was just a great leader for the program, we were lucky.
If the athletic department wants to have a successful hockey program competing for titles every year they have to be fully committed to that. I just don’t see it. Without it we can say what we want about coaches, players, and recruiting, but we’ll get the best that can be, and maybe getting lucky again.
Every now and again there is mention of bringing in a “cheap” coach on a low salary, what a gamble! That’s not a commitment to me.
Look at what Penn State has done with commitment and loads of money, from club hockey to ranked 15 today in what 4 or 5 years.
How’s the NCAA scholarship fully funding rule going to affect recruiting? Maine and other schools say they aren’t going to do it.
Gophers – Lucia – 330,000 with 200k in potential bonus. And big retirement plan.
Wisconsin – Eaves – Base 236,000
Denver - Gwozdecky in 2007 -- 355 k plus performance elements
North Dokata – Kakstol 2012 650 k with bonus. 300k base.
Minn Duluth – Sandelin 235k
Mich state – Anastos 320K plus bonus
Miami Ohio – Blasi 400K in 2014
Penn State – Gadowsky - I’m still looking
UNH – Umile – 242k
Lowell – Bazin – 280k
BC – York – 576k in 2013 (a web site says BU’s Quinn may make more)
Minn State – Hastings – 290k
Mich Tech – Pearson – 275k

Vermont – Sneddon 230k plus incentives -- the article said this may be one of the three lowest salaries in Hockey East.

UMO – Red – 205k – Whitehead was around 195k ( we might be lowest salary in Hock east)
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

I would say KUA has under performed based off of the talent they have had up there.

Not so sure about that. Last year they were a #8 seed going into the large school tournament and defeated the #1 seed in the first round.
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Going to see the Black Bears at UMass on Saturday. Does anyone have the time/inclination to give me a thumbnail sketch of Maine? Things like line combinations, D combos, outstanding players, who to watch, strong elements of the team's game and not-so-strong elements as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...(I'm assuming coaching is not a strong point, judging by the comments read above...)
 
Going to see the Black Bears at UMass on Saturday. Does anyone have the time/inclination to give me a thumbnail sketch of Maine? Things like line combinations, D combos, outstanding players, who to watch, strong elements of the team's game and not-so-strong elements as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...(I'm assuming coaching is not a strong point, judging by the comments read above...)

www.collegehockeystats.net has line combinations including D pairs for every single game.
 
Going to see the Black Bears at UMass on Saturday. Does anyone have the time/inclination to give me a thumbnail sketch of Maine? Things like line combinations, D combos, outstanding players, who to watch, strong elements of the team's game and not-so-strong elements as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...(I'm assuming coaching is not a strong point, judging by the comments read above...)
Strong elements? Looking at their record the list is pretty short, maybe nonexistent ;)
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Going to see the Black Bears at UMass on Saturday. Does anyone have the time/inclination to give me a thumbnail sketch of Maine? Things like line combinations, D combos, outstanding players, who to watch, strong elements of the team's game and not-so-strong elements as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...(I'm assuming coaching is not a strong point, judging by the comments read above...)

Team Offense: SUCKS

Team Defense: SUCKS

Goaltending: SUCKS

Recruiting: SUCKS

Game Day Coaching: AVG.

Team Speed: SUCKS

Players to Watch: Cam Brown, Blaine Byron, Steven Swavely, SUCK slightly less.

Overall Assesment: This team on occasion can play most any team competitively. They usually play hard and also get a lot of shots and descent scoring chances but don't be fooled, they specialize on missing open nets, hitting posts and crossbars, and have NO ability to snipe and capitalize on the scoring chances.

Overall Team: They SUCK
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

You know the UConn team that Maine recently scored 1 goal in 125 minutes against? They gave up 7 last night. TO SACRED HEART.

Putting Hokydad in charge of this program has somehow turned out to be a bigger disaster than the Whitehead years. Who knew?
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Team Offense: SUCKS

Team Defense: SUCKS

Goaltending: SUCKS

Recruiting: SUCKS

Game Day Coaching: AVG.

Team Speed: SUCKS

Players to Watch: Cam Brown, Blaine Byron, Steven Swavely, SUCK slightly less.

Overall Assesment: This team on occasion can play most any team competitively. They usually play hard and also get a lot of shots and descent scoring chances but don't be fooled, they specialize on missing open nets, hitting posts and crossbars, and have NO ability to snipe and capitalize on the scoring chances.

Overall Team: They SUCK
I would add Robbins to players to watch. I keep hoping Gibson will be a player to watch also but so far its slim pickens on that
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Interesting, not sure I see it that way but he either has to get extended or cut loose after this season. I doubt they cut him loose and pay out the final year so I'm guessing a 2 year deal. I think this years frosh are his first real class. Robbins, Michel and Gibson are looking ok. I'd say Robbins is going to be good before its over. So its up to the incoming class next year to make a real difference. Seems like it might if Rob can handle the goaltending? Not sure on that.
In reality it would be hard to see the U buy out another contract, especially 3 years removed from TW...BUT why give him a 2 year extension...if they give anything, give him a 1 year extension and that would equal out to two years...and with that said it would send a message that he has his 4th year and one other and if no improvement/no progress then he(Red)should see the writing on the wall that if there's NO improvement then its time for Change(again). Myself and I know it comes down to Recruiting and what direction the Program is heading, but I would tell him NO extension and if any extension talk that it would be discussed when his 4th season is 3/4 finished. No more 3 year extensions like the TW era.
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

How about this second season of the ladies black bear basketball. I think I heard 19 and 1 at home.
Great program turn around.
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Jeff Harris has been an important part of Maine athletics for decades. I do not recall ever seeing him without a smile on his face. His niece posted this to the Maine Athletics page on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

I have been in touch with his niece and things are going as well as can be hoped. If you have a minute, post a message to him. He reads them all and they do mean a lot to him. The family is requesting privacy right now, but if you want to send a card mail it to the Maine Athletics Department and they will see that he gets it.

Athletic Dept. Mailing Address:
C/O Jeff Harris
5747 Memorial Gym,
Orono, Maine, 04469
 
Maines Riley got a 5 minute interference penalty. Anyone ever seen that before. Maine up 3 1. Robbins with unassisted beauty
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Maines Riley got a 5 minute interference penalty. Anyone ever seen that before. Maine up 3 1. Robbins with unassisted beauty

I didn't see the play but it may have been for a blindside hit. A rule was added a couple of seasons ago.

Interference: Blindside hits. (Rule 59.1)
(1) Recommendation. A category of penalty in the interference rule will be added to
separate a severe blindside hit from the contact to the head penalty. In these
cases, a major penalty may be called for blindside contact when the head is not
contacted.(

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MWIH_Annual_Meeting_Report_060214_060414.pdf
 
Re: Maine Black Bears - Return to the Glory Years or On to Oblivion?

Thanks, figures Maine would be the first. penalties in last nights game should have killed them, 3 in the 3rd period alone. 5-2 win, first road win this year, yea.

Penalties are a problem. If Maine had been playing a good offensive team, they may not have won that game. Two bad teams at the bottom of Hockey East standings. Having said that, Maine won!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top