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Maine 2012-2013 Fade to Black

Not this again. What did Maine do with Brian Flynn (firist NHL goal last night), Spencer Abbott, Gustav Nyquist, and a bunch of other AHL regs O'Neill, Dimmen, House......

Talent was the issue maybe in 08 and youth of that talent in 09 and maybe this yr. Otherwise its not. Its getting the most out of them and getting them to be consistent.

The issue was goaltending for a few years. I think what we've seen this year in hockey east is the new normal. I see Maine in the mix next year but it will probably be so tight again they could wind up anywhere between one and six.
 
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Second or third that. I hope Maine backs into the 8th spot and then gets a BC team bent on redemption for the recent embarrasment. Just to bring Timmay back to reality

Having said that, I dont see it happening.

Good to see you so supportive of the team. I don't know how I could ever have questioned your fanhood.
 
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There are people on this thread so obsessed with removing the coach that they can't stand to see a group of young men enjoy success. Absolutely absurd.

This is willfully ignorant. Nobody here wants to see this group of young men fail. Nobody. Look at our uscho join dates. We've all been here since the beginning of the USCHO forum (I'm on my 2nd username), or very close to it.

What we all have in common is the belief that Maine hockey is bigger than the individuals wearing the sweaters. It was bigger than Jimmy Montgomery, Scott Pellerin, and Paul Kariya. It's no insult to Martin Ouellette, Joey Diamond, and Devin Shore to say that it's bigger than them, too.

As for a change at the top, I'll just speak for myself. No, there's no guarantee things will be better. Other things equal, stability in a program is preferable to turnover. And there's no guarantee of improvement. We might hope for Walsh and end up getting a Cedorchuk.

The fact that change could be for the worse is only meaningful to the extent that present circumstances are acceptable. To go with a college example, it's like getting a 57 on a final exam, failing a course, and the prof giving you a chance to re-take it. Do you refuse the offer, worried that you might get a 46 the second time? Obviously not. Failure is failure. If you have an iota of ambition, pride, or self-confidence, you take the offer and don't look back.
 
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Good to see you so supportive of the team. I don't know how I could ever have questioned your fanhood.

Supportive of team, non supportive of Whitehead. What is it that is so phkn hard for you to understand, Geezus.
 
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This is willfully ignorant. Nobody here wants to see this group of young men fail. Nobody. Look at our uscho join dates. We've all been here since the beginning of the USCHO forum (I'm on my 2nd username), or very close to it.

What we all have in common is the belief that Maine hockey is bigger than the individuals wearing the sweaters. It was bigger than Jimmy Montgomery, Scott Pellerin, and Paul Kariya. It's no insult to Martin Ouellette, Joey Diamond, and Devin Shore to say that it's bigger than them, too.

As for a change at the top, I'll just speak for myself. No, there's no guarantee things will be better. Other things equal, stability in a program is preferable to turnover. And there's no guarantee of improvement. We might hope for Walsh and end up getting a Cedorchuk.

The fact that change could be for the worse is only meaningful to the extent that present circumstances are acceptable. To go with a college example, it's like getting a 57 on a final exam, failing a course, and the prof giving you a chance to re-take it. Do you refuse the offer, worried that you might get a 46 the second time? Obviously not. Failure is failure. If you have an iota of ambition, pride, or self-confidence, you take the offer and don't look back.

Maine hasn't won a game in the NCAA's since 2007 and the Alfond is only about half full for games now, how much worse can things be with a new coach?

I've never doubted that the other fans on here care about the team, even when we disagree on what is the best way forward. The infighting is as bad as the losing in my opinion.
 
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Supportive of team, non supportive of Whitehead. What is it that is so phkn hard for you to understand, Geezus.
You want the players to fail. That's like saying you're a Patriots fan but you hope Brady throws four picks to make Bill Belichick look bad.
 
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“Playoff experience?” This team has been playing under that type of pressure all season just attempting to stay in the top eight. There isn’t any more pressure in the playoffs than there will be this weekend in Durham on national TV.
 
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You want the players to fail. That's like saying you're a Patriots fan but you hope Brady throws four picks to make Bill Belichick look bad.

Tim Whitehead is a glioma (a form of brain cancer randomly chosen to make a point...).
If the glioma is allowed to live in the UMaine hockey program, then the whole program dies.
We want the whole program to live and to thrive.
Some believe that we must remove the glioma. HOWEVER... there are some surgeons who do not believe that the glioma is causing any problems whatsoever, so they will not remove the glioma.

The ONLY way they will agree to remove the glioma is if they see with their own eyes ample evidence that the glioma is causing damage.

so... in order to save the program, the damage must be obvious.
we want to save the program. we want Maine hockey to thrive once again.
 
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When KIA makes sense my whole world goes topsy-turvy. I hate that. ;)
 
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Sure seems like it.

That doesn't sound like you want them to win.

Since I expect them to get swept this weekend, backing into 8th would be a gift. You need to stop worrying about the mental health of college hockey players and your hero, Tim.
 
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Since I expect them to get swept this weekend, backing into 8th would be a gift. You need to stop worrying about the mental health of college hockey players and your hero, Tim.
I haven't mentioned the mental health of the hockey players. Just pointing out that you and your ilk support the team so much you want them to lose. You "hope" the team backs in - that would indicate that you want them to lose to UNH on national TV....otherwise you'd say you hoped they won and earned their way into the playoffs. Then you continue with your "hope" that Maine plays a "BC team bent on redemption for the recent embarrasment{sic}" which would indicate that you want Maine to lose the quarterfinal series to Boston College.

Yep...you sure support them. How proud you must be.
 
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I haven't mentioned the mental health of the hockey players. Just pointing out that you and your ilk support the team so much you want them to lose. You "hope" the team backs in - that would indicate that you want them to lose to UNH on national TV....otherwise you'd say you hoped they won and earned their way into the playoffs. Then you continue with your "hope" that Maine plays a "BC team bent on redemption for the recent embarrasment{sic}" which would indicate that you want Maine to lose the quarterfinal series to Boston College.

Yep...you sure support them. How proud you must be.

for the record, I HOPE that UMaine men's hockey team wins every game that they play. I was not happy that there is a scarlet-colored 1 in the middle of 42-1-2, but I am also a little more grounded in reality than hoping for perfect, undefeated seasons all the time.

I also wish I that I could fly under my own power, i really do wish that.

Am I a bad fan of "me" because I do not keep trying to fly on my own and I occasionally buy airline tickets (that is, I do what is necessary to achieve goals... like getting to Las Angeles by flying on a plane and not flapping my arms?)
 
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ooops, we are falling for Jonny's bait once again.

he is getting us to explain WHY Whitehead needs to be ousted after he posts all sorts of gibberish. He is getting us to be the bad guys by posting what his obvious, and all the while, he looks like the good guy.

damm fools... taking the bait hook line and sinker
 
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Let me simplify this for you Priceless. I hope the players win and the coach loses. Can you grasp that much ? I have no interest or time to play word semantics and implications with you ad nauseum.
 
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Man, dont I hope UHN kicks the chit outta Maine this weekend. Both games in fact, so we can get rid of Whithead quicker.
 
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When KIA makes sense my whole world goes topsy-turvy. I hate that. ;)

Strap yourself in...because that was a great analogy.

No one wants to see these kids or the team fail.

Ben Franklin's definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over, expecting different results. The more we keep things the same, at the same time expecting different results, the more insane this program and the athletic department seems.

just saying...
 
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Man, dont I hope UHN kicks the chit outta Maine this weekend. Both games in fact, so we can get rid of Whithead quicker.
You just can't resist taking that stick and poking that bear, can you? :D
 
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