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Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

RENCEB said:
Um, didn't you ever mix your Play-Doh? Red and Blue make Purple......
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thoroughly missed that :(
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

So, does HRC receive a Presidential pardon?

I hope so, I'd like to see us all move forward together to solving problems, not to re-litigate the past.

If I'm DJT, I probably want BHO to issue her a blanket pardon, both for emails and for Clinton Foundation pay-to-play, so that I don't have to make a decision on what to do. There are far more important matters that require undivided attention.
 
FreshFish said:
So, does HRC receive a Presidential pardon?

I hope so, I'd like to see us all move forward together to solving problems, not to re-litigate the past.

If I'm DJT, I probably want BHO to issue her a blanket pardon, both for emails and for Clinton Foundation pay-to-play, so that I don't have to make a decision on what to do. There are far more important matters that require undivided attention.
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Of course you do. Then all the right wing nut jobs can blame Obama for Hillary not being in jail. Never mind that there's never been a "there" there to warrant a pardon.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

I've heard more folks say go after Hilary, throw her in jail etc. Last I knew the US wasn't a Banana republic ,let her ride off into the sunset
 
FreshFish said:
So, does HRC receive a Presidential pardon?

I hope so, I'd like to see us all move forward together to solving problems, not to re-litigate the past.

If I'm DJT, I probably want BHO to issue her a blanket pardon, both for emails and for Clinton Foundation pay-to-play, so that I don't have to make a decision on what to do. There are far more important matters that require undivided attention.
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I'd have a quiet chat with her, Bill, the AG, and their lawyers. The AG would lay out all the evidence against her and Bill & the Foundation and tell them that if they go quietly into the night these papers will never see the light of day.

Screw up and you and Chelsea will be ruined.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

They don't have anything on her so tell them to pound sand if they want a deal. Love FF triying to sound like he's reaching across the aisle. With all due respect...
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Slap Shot said:
They don't have anything on her so tell them to pound sand if they want a deal. Love FF triying to sound like he's reaching across the aisle. With all due respect...
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My sentiments exactly. Innuendo works with idiot voters, but that will get them nothing in a court of law.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

I wonder if all those countries and potentates that donated to the Foundation are going to ask for a refund? :rolleyes:
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

walrus said:
I've heard more folks say go after Hilary, throw her in jail etc. Last I knew the US wasn't a Banana republic ,let her ride off into the sunset
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While I understand that sentiment, it would consume time, attention, and resources better used elsewhere. I realize some people say she doesn't "need" a pardon because she didn't do anything wrong; but I'm talking about short-circuiting the investigative process entirely. Ford pardoned Nixon; GHWB pardoned Weinberger; in both cases it was to stop the investigations from distracting with moving forward under a new administration.

Whether or not she may "deserve" to be prosecuted, cut her a deal as joecct suggested: we'll give you blanket immunity for emails and Clinton Foundation and in return you retire from public life.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

The Sicatoka said:
I'm not a fashion critic, and I'm probably reading too much in, but why the purple today (Hillary jacket and Bill's tie too)?

Some sort of subliminal appeal to "purple" states and unity?
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I heard a commentator notice this and opine that purple conveys calm and a forward-looking perspective.

Personally, purple makes me think of this.

Reason #483 that sex symbols born after 1950 shouldn't even have bothered.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

During ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was a very expensive color to produce. For a long time it required some element of a sea creature (forget which creature and which element). After that it carried on as a royal color for some time as a matter of tradition. Perhaps she was trying to convey a sense of dignity in her resignation, or saying that the [throne] should rightfully be hers.

Or perhaps she just likes the color purple.
 
St. Clown said:
During ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was a very expensive color to produce. For a long time it required some element of a sea creature (forget which creature and which element). After that it carried on as a royal color for some time as a matter of tradition. Perhaps she was trying to convey a sense of dignity in her resignation, or saying that the [throne] should rightfully be hers.

Or perhaps she just likes the color purple.
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Or it was the last clean outfit she had.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

St. Clown said:
During ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was a very expensive color to produce. For a long time it required some element of a sea creature (forget which creature and which element). After that it carried on as a royal color for some time as a matter of tradition. Perhaps she was trying to convey a sense of dignity in her resignation, or saying that the [throne] should rightfully be hers.

Or perhaps she just likes the color purple.
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Sea snails. Excuse me, predatory sea snails. Don't f-ck with them!

You left out the best part. Sumptuary laws in the classical and again in the feudal period prohibited anyone outside of the highest social class from wearing purple. She was clearly making a statement against democracy!!!11!11

Tyrian purple may first have been used by the ancient Phoenicians as early as 1570 BC. The dye was greatly prized in antiquity because the colour did not easily fade, but instead became brighter with weathering and sunlight. Its significance is such that the name Phoenicia means 'land of purple.' It came in various shades, the most prized being that of "blackish clotted blood".

Tyrian purple was expensive: the 4th-century-BC historian Theopompus reported, "Purple for dyes fetched its weight in silver at Colophon" in Asia Minor. The expense meant that purple-dyed textiles became status symbols, and early sumptuary laws restricted their uses. The production of Tyrian purple was tightly controlled in Byzantium and was subsidized by the imperial court, which restricted its use for the colouring of imperial silks. Later (9th century) a child born to a reigning emperor was said to be porphyrogenitos, "born in the purple".
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Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

This was on the news. The color of royalty is the old-school interpretation. Nowadays it means you support gay rights.
Sorry: more broadly, LGBTQ rights. The "T" is probably the more relevant part with the mixed up pla-do look.
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

geezer said:
This was on the news. The color of royalty is the old-school interpretation. Nowadays it means you support gay rights.
Sorry: more broadly, LGBTQ rights. The "T" is probably the more relevant part with the mixed up pla-do look.
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I have a sh-t ton of gay friends and this is the absolute first time I have ever heard that.

I'm not saying it's not an association (Wikipedia mentions it as one of a few dozen). I'm just saying I would not be surprised if that had nothing to do with it.

My understanding is purple was the color of the suffragettes. Specifically: purple was dignity and green was hope. That would make a helluva lot more sense, given the context. It may have been a slight dig, since one thing Trump is not is dignified.
 
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Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

C'mon Kep, you knew all along that purple is code for the G in LGTBQ.

Jerry Falwell outed him; Tinky Winky gave it away. :D
 
Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Re: Madame President -- it's over. Can we refer to them as 42 & 45 now? can 45 > 42?

Maybe someone should just ask thaem. The one woman on CNN sounded pretty confident, saying it's the only time she's seen Bill in a purple tie (trusting that she keeps records). It could be all of the above, but that seems like it would take a lot of thought when it probably was simply the only garment she hadn't already rent, and she didn't want to go out in sackcloth and ashes, and she ordered Bill to find something complementary.
 
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