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LSSU Lakers 2015 off-season thread

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Lakers recruit Nico Blachman made the All-98 First Team at the Over The Boards Teal Invite tournament in Boston last weekend.
 
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The lakers roster list 14 freshmen and 38 players over all committed to the university. How many of them come in next season it does not say.
 
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sm2pk said:
The lakers roster list 14 freshmen and 38 players over all committed to the university. How many of them come in next season it does not say.
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Where are you getting that info from? When I go to the Lakers Hockey website, last season's roster is still showing up. I wouldn't think the 2015-16 roster would be there until after school starts in the Fall.
 
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Bill said:
Where are you getting that info from? When I go to the Lakers Hockey website, last season's roster is still showing up. I wouldn't think the 2015-16 roster would be there until after school starts in the Fall.
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Go to Collegehockeynews.com .Click on standings when you find that on the page you go to. Click on Lake Superior in the standings and it will take you to Laker page and than click on roster. It does now show what year the new players are coming in .
 
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sm2pk said:
Go to Collegehockeynews.com .Click on standings when you find that on the page you go to. Click on Lake Superior in the standings and it will take you to Laker page and than click on roster. It does now show what year the new players are coming in .
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OK, I looked at that. I think that is just their guess on what they think the roster potentially could look like. I think there at least 3 and maybe 4 freshmen on their list that won't be on the official Lakers hockey roster whenever it is released by the school.
 
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sm2pk said:
Go to Collegehockeynews.com .Click on standings when you find that on the page you go to. Click on Lake Superior in the standings and it will take you to Laker page and than click on roster. It does now show what year the new players are coming in .
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hmm, can't speak for LSSU, but I'm not banking on their projected BGSU roster.
the team depth charts at http://www.collegecommitments.com/ and the incoming list at http://www.eliteprospects.com/ seem reasonably up-to-date, but won't end up being completely right either.
 
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blackswampboy said:
hmm, can't speak for LSSU, but I'm not banking on their projected BGSU roster.
the team depth charts at http://www.collegecommitments.com/ and the incoming list at http://www.eliteprospects.com/ seem reasonably up-to-date, but won't end up being completely right either.
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It's getting a tiny bit easier to get verbal commitments given that the kids seem to enjoy doing it on Twitter, but it's still a struggle to get it right.

GFM
 
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I am sure Whittens first season with 28 losses is a hard pill to swallow. if anything should push him hard to get the Lakers back to the top, 28 losses should be a great motivator.
 
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sm2pk said:
I am sure Whittens first season with 28 losses is a hard pill to swallow. if anything should push him hard to get the Lakers back to the top, 28 losses should be a great motivator.
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Hopefully we can win 10 games next season and then 15 the year after. Anything less will be pretty disappointing.
 
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I don't know much about Laker hockey; I've been following this thread a bit since Coach Whitten took the head coaching job. I am a little surprised at how much heat he's taken by some of the posters here. I personally don't think he had much hope of success this season due to the caliber of players on the team. Nothing against the players he had to work with. I believe that without a solid core of USHL and BCHL players it will be tough to succeed in any of the Division 1 leagues. LSSU did not have a single former USHL player on their roster last year. Looking at the rest of the WCHA this is what I found.

MTU - (12) USHL - (12) BCHL = 24
MSU - (15) USHL - (8) BCHL = 23
NMU - (11) USHL - (10) BCHL = 21
AF - (10) USHL - (6) BCHL = 16
FSU - (14) USHL - (1) BCHL = 15
BSU - (10) USHL - (5) BCHL = 15
BGSU - (11) USHL - (3) BCHL = 14
AA - (2) USHL - (9) BCHL = 11
AH - (4) USHL - (6) BCHL = 10
LSSU - (0) USHL - (8) BCHL = 8


Based on this quick comparison the teams with the most USHL / BCHL players seemed to have the most success. Obviously they need to be higher end players from these leagues. I am sure the upper end NAHL players could probably compete with most of the mid range USHL/BCHL players. I suspect that until LSSU fills the stalls with more USHL / BCHL players success is going to be hard to come by. On a bright note; looking at the 2015/2016 roster posted on CHN (mentioned previously) it looks like the Lakers could have (5) USHL players and (11) BCHL players next year for a combined 16. Does that bring them to the middle of the pack competitively? It will be interesting to see.

Obviously this is just a quick comparison of numbers of players from these leagues and does not take in to account anything about each players abilities. Is one of the NAHL or other Canadien Junior players that played for LSSU better than a USHL/BCHL player on one of the other teams, could very well be but in general terms I think you will have a better chance with a higher USHL/BCHL make up and probably increase your odds more the farther you go towards the USHL end. (just my opinion of course)
 
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rustedblades said:
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AH - (4) USHL - (6) BCHL = 10
LSSU - (0) USHL - (8) BCHL = 8


Based on this quick comparison the teams with the most USHL / BCHL players seemed to have the most success. Obviously they need to be higher end players from these leagues. I am sure the upper end NAHL players could probably compete with most of the mid range USHL/BCHL players. I suspect that until LSSU fills the stalls with more USHL / BCHL players success is going to be hard to come by. On a bright note; looking at the 2015/2016 roster posted on CHN (mentioned previously) it looks like the Lakers could have (5) USHL players and (11) BCHL players next year for a combined 16. Does that bring them to the middle of the pack competitively? It will be interesting to see.

Obviously this is just a quick comparison of numbers of players from these leagues and does not take in to account anything about each players abilities. Is one of the NAHL or other Canadien Junior players that played for LSSU better than a USHL/BCHL player on one of the other teams, could very well be but in general terms I think you will have a better chance with a higher USHL/BCHL make up and probably increase your odds more the farther you go towards the USHL end. (just my opinion of course)
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I think that it would be worth noting who played and how well they did as well as what league that they did. This is more than mere accounting, and it's a lot of work (I know, I've started it for UAH and haven't finished it). One of UAH's four USHL kids, Jordan Uhelski, was our third goalie, who did make a number of trips this season (that's how bad our depth was; they took him over another skater) but redshirted. Is he going to be a factor for us? That's always a possibility, but I hope that it's two years from now after Guerriero has graduated.

It would be an interesting analysis to do. Shoot, Josh Kestner may blow the curve for the GOJHL.

GFM
 
gfmorris said:
I think that it would be worth noting who played and how well they did as well as what league that they did. This is more than mere accounting, and it's a lot of work (I know, I've started it for UAH and haven't finished it). One of UAH's four USHL kids, Jordan Uhelski, was our third goalie, who did make a number of trips this season (that's how bad our depth was; they took him over another skater) but redshirted. Is he going to be a factor for us? That's always a possibility, but I hope that it's two years from now after Guerriero has graduated.

It would be an interesting analysis to do. Shoot, Josh Kestner may blow the curve for the GOJHL.

GFM
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As both you and rustedblades point out, it's not just the league but how good you are in that league. Both WMU and BG, prior to their coaching changes to Blashill and Bergeron, had quite a few USHL players on their teams but it didn't provide them with much success in the W-L column. You need 1st and 2nd line USHL players and not just 3rd and 4th line players.

It's been a long time since the Lakers have had any players from what is now the GOJHL. They did recruit that area quite a bit in the early days of the program. That said, when I was up in the Soo for the UAH series this past season, there were a couple of young kids in for recruiting visits who I believe were from the GOJHL.
 
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Bill said:
As both you and rustedblades point out, it's not just the league but how good you are in that league. Both WMU and BG, prior to their coaching changes to Blashill and Bergeron, had quite a few USHL players on their teams but it didn't provide them with much success in the W-L column. You need 1st and 2nd line USHL players and not just 3rd and 4th line players.
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I had some concerns about Max McHugh given that he wasn't getting regular top-6 time for Dubuque ... but they're Dubuque. My fears were unfounded — he really came on as the season progressed.

GFM
 
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Bill said:
As both you and rustedblades point out, it's not just the league but how good you are in that league. Both WMU and BG, prior to their coaching changes to Blashill and Bergeron, had quite a few USHL players on their teams but it didn't provide them with much success in the W-L column. You need 1st and 2nd line USHL players and not just 3rd and 4th line players.
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the other side of that is that BG has been getting quality players (Walker, Murphy, Cooper, Dufour, D'Andrea, Sullivan) from the OJHL and CCHL. A couple more promising Junior A guys coming in next season too.
even if you start getting more guys from the USHL, Junior A still seems like good recruiting ground for LSSU.
 
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rustedblades said:
I don't know much about Laker hockey; I've been following this thread a bit since Coach Whitten took the head coaching job. I am a little surprised at how much heat he's taken by some of the posters here.
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A few people STILL haven't got over Jim Roque getting fired.

Edit: Less than 100 days to go until the season starts.
 
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Another interesting stat as a result of the 2015 NHL Draft that supports my USHL theory. Of course, as mentioned several times since my post yesterday; you've got to get the upper end guys. This is the number of players drafted from each league.

OHL WHL QMJHL USHL BCHL NAHL
31 34 30 31 1 5

I think the BCHL number may be a little misleading as I believe the BCHL has less draft eligible players than the USHL or NAHL.

Again, there is a whole lot more to look at then these very general numbers but the USHL is where the best young, potential NCAA talent is.
 
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Sorry for the double post, the numbers didn't fall in the correct location

OHL - 31

WHL - 34

QMJHL - 30

USHL -31

BCHL - 1

NAHL -5
 
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