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LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread

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michiganmidge said:
Just making the point that this outward appearance of indifference does not mean the players didn't like Roque, as you stated previously. They, in fact, do like Roque. It's an unfortunate situation for them. Amen.
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You don't believe it yourself; why don't you just quote the answers you got from alumni NHLers who received your pathetic petition. No player likes Roque, this is now clear to everybody, including for those who slandered players here when Roque's sick behavior was condemned.
Roque likes nobody either because he is just unable; otherwise he wouldn't do the sick things he does.

Your campaign won't help him finding another job. If his dares sending applications for coaching, hopefully people will do a better job than Crawford (who admits he should have known better) and talk to Dunbar who will have no choice but to give the full picture where finishing second last was no big deal.
Instead of smearing, you should be so grateful that Kris Dunbar chose to look the other way for so long, and blame the man who left her with no choice but to chose a damage mitigation option when he had been advised so many times to change attitude.
 
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I was just reading the https://www.lssu.edu/busoff/documents/AnnualFR-11.pfd regarding LSSU finances for 09-11. While it takes several readings to understand it and a smarter person than me; in my humble option what struck me was the fact the new President (Pleger) must have been aware of the firing and/or gave his approval.

Because of Roque's popularity on campus a decision of this magnitude McClain and Dunbar would have confidentially approached Pleger with their desire to not renew his contract. They had to know University laundry would be aired; personal attacks were going to be made on Dunbar and possibly McClain. However the bottom line McClain is taking Roque with him when he retires. I have seen this happen in business a few times.

Two last points. 1) If I were Dunbar I would be concerned the boss (McClain) will take me with him also. If Dunbar is still there in July or August she will be there for a while. 2) LSSU may just have brought in a pretty good person as the next President.

Only time will tell. ;)
 
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Mrs Robinson said:
You don't believe it yourself; why don't you just quote the answers you got from alumni NHLers who received your pathetic petition. No player likes Roque, this is now clear to everybody, including for those who slandered players here when Roque's sick behavior was condemned.
Roque likes nobody either because he is just unable; otherwise he wouldn't do the sick things he does.

Your campaign won't help him finding another job. If his dares sending applications for coaching, hopefully people will do a better job than Crawford (who admits he should have known better) and talk to Dunbar who will have no choice but to give the full picture where finishing second last was no big deal.
Instead of smearing, you should be so grateful that Kris Dunbar chose to look the other way for so long, and blame the man who left her with no choice but to chose a damage mitigation option when he had been advised so many times to change attitude.
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What's that you say Mrs Robinson. Jolting Jim has left and gone away...
 
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You people are all so dumb. I am going to sit back and wait. In two years when the hockey program isn't headed back to the glory days (and it won't be), I'll be the one laughing! (And saying, "I told you so!")
 
michiganmidge said:
You people are all so dumb. I am going to sit back and wait. In two years when the hockey program isn't headed back to the glory days (and it won't be), I'll be the one laughing! (And saying, "I told you so!")
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midge, what is your rationale for why Jim Roque should have been retained as head coach? You say you will be laughing in two years because you don't think the hockey program will be headed in the right direction, but Jim Roque didn't produce a single winning conference record in nine years as head coach. What was OK about that? I don't think any of us are expecting the Lakers to get back to the level of success they enjoyed during the "glory days", but certainly we have an expectation for more success than we've seen during the Jim Roque years.
 
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jnacc said:
Nope he isn't...he's a truthy, just the other side of the coin.
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We should put Truth and Midge in a cage and let them battle it out. Have it be a pay-per-view event to help fund the Gem of the North project.
 
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Bill said:
midge, what is your rationale for why Jim Roque should have been retained as head coach? You say you will be laughing in two years because you don't think the hockey program will be headed in the right direction, but Jim Roque didn't produce a single winning conference record in nine years as head coach. What was OK about that? I don't think any of us are expecting the Lakers to get back to the level of success they enjoyed during the "glory days", but certainly we have an expectation for more success than we've seen during the Jim Roque years.
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Jim Roque needed financial support by way of a better (READ: Bigger) budget. Can't compete when you don't have the money to compete. And he needed support from his AD. NOT SABOTAGE! He got neither of these during his tenure. Can you imagine how the Lakers could have performed had Roque not had to work within these constraints? I know you'll have have negative responses and smart *** remarks, so that's all I'm going to say. Oh .... can't wait to laugh my *** off in two years .... mark my words. And HELL YES, I'm a fan!
 
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michiganmidge said:
Jim Roque needed financial support by way of a better (READ: Bigger) budget. Can't compete when you don't have the money to compete. And he needed support from his AD. NOT SABOTAGE! He got neither of these during his tenure. Can you imagine how the Lakers could have performed had Roque not had to work within these constraints? I know you'll have have negative responses and smart *** remarks, so that's all I'm going to say. Oh .... can't wait to laugh my *** off in two years .... mark my words. And HELL YES, I'm a fan!
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Where will Roque be in two years ?
 
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Mrs Robinson said:
You don't believe it yourself; why don't you just quote the answers you got from alumni NHLers who received your pathetic petition. No player likes Roque, this is now clear to everybody, including for those who slandered players here when Roque's sick behavior was condemned.
Roque likes nobody either because he is just unable; otherwise he wouldn't do the sick things he does.

Your campaign won't help him finding another job. If his dares sending applications for coaching, hopefully people will do a better job than Crawford (who admits he should have known better) and talk to Dunbar who will have no choice but to give the full picture where finishing second last was no big deal.
Instead of smearing, you should be so grateful that Kris Dunbar chose to look the other way for so long, and blame the man who left her with no choice but to chose a damage mitigation option when he had been advised so many times to change attitude.
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Is English your second language? As I'm having trouble understanding you ....
 
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midge , you do know after 9 years of Roque ,the program was not heading anywhere .
 
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Midge,have you stopped to notice the fact that you are the only one left on here defending Roque . Roque was given 9 years and it did not pan out.
 
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michiganmidge said:
Jim Roque needed financial support by way of a better (READ: Bigger) budget. Can't compete when you don't have the money to compete. And he needed support from his AD. NOT SABOTAGE! He got neither of these during his tenure. Can you imagine how the Lakers could have performed had Roque not had to work within these constraints? I know you'll have have negative responses and smart *** remarks, so that's all I'm going to say. Oh .... can't wait to laugh my *** off in two years .... mark my words. And HELL YES, I'm a fan!
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Midge did you watch any games the last few years, particularly this year? If you had you would have seen the reason he needed to be fired.
 
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Laker54 said:
Midge did you watch any games the last few years, particularly this year? If you had you would have seen the reason he needed to be fired.
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I watched all the games this year. I've watched for many years. I happen to believe that Roque's lines lack depth. And in order to get depth, you need money to recruit. He has proven that he excels in the area of recruitment given the limited budget he's had to work with. There are more D1 programs out there than in the Glory Days, so that means more scholarships available from many schools. It's hard to compete for the same kids as the bigger programs, because our school cannot offer them what the others can. If the illustrious AD would have loosened the purse strings and actually increased Roque's budget, MAYBE we could have gotten more depth. You also have to take into account the injuries sustained in the second half of this season. Kapalka was out after the first Ferris series, leaving the Lakers with only Murdock. Also lost Dan Radke and Andrew Dommet at a critical point in the season. Radke came back, but was never up to full speed. These injuries could not have been prevented, and again, if Roque had depth, their loss could have been absorbed and others could have filled in. And as I said, the ability to gain depth is all tied to recruiting, and recruiting is tied to budget. And we all know what kind of budget Roque had to work with. NADA!!! All of this coupled with the fact that the AD did NO promotion whatsoever introducing the new league we had become a part of .... she didn't run ANY promotions to get people in the door - actually I take it back, she offered $5 tickets on Senior Night, the last night of the last home series at Taffy Abel. Where is HER accountability in all this? I believe Roque to be an excellent coach. He is not crazy and he is not hated. He has some diamonds in the rough and could have made strides in the WCHA, what with a slew of new recruits coming in next year .... but the AD plugged the plug. And now she has to live with it. And I am telling you, unless she loosens the purse strings and gets someone in there as good as Roque, or even better, it's NOT going to happen at Lake State. I don't anticipate any return to the Glory Days under the current regime .... and neither should you. The program will tank under new leadership, IF the AD is allowed to stay.

One last thought .... Jeff Jackson left when the program wasn't broken .... why do you suppose that is? Finding a suitable coach to fulfill all your pipe dreams is next to impossible. Roque was headed in the right direction. With some money and support from the AD in the new WCHA, you would have seen results. Unfortunately, you'll never know.
 
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