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LSSU Lakers 2014-15
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
As far as stockpiling goes, how could you possibly presume to know what Damon Whitten's intent is with his recruits? Or are you redefining stockpiling (as used in the article) to suit your own purposes?
Geezer is right. Recruiting has changed significantly since Jackson's days at LSSU.
Go back and re-read the article you posted a link to. Also check the recruiting web sites. Jeff Jackson isn't doing it the "old fashioned" way anymore. Notre Dame has at least seven 16 and 17 year old kids committed and even a 15 year old. Jackson says he wishes that kids couldn't be recruited until they were 17 but he's smart enough to know he has to go after younger kids because most everyone else is doing it plus they have Canadian Major Junior to contend with. It is what it is.
As far as stockpiling goes, how could you possibly presume to know what Damon Whitten's intent is with his recruits? Or are you redefining stockpiling (as used in the article) to suit your own purposes?
Geezer is right. Recruiting has changed significantly since Jackson's days at LSSU.
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
They don't restrict their recruiting to older players. They have at least three 17 year olds committed.
Possibly. As for that one, if Damon is "stockpiling," it is a way to make up some ground in the recruiting wars. And verbals are non binding so there really isn't an issue. Players commit then flip all the time. There are plenty of guys, even with signed LOIs, that skip out and go to Major Junior leaving a big hole in that recruiting class. Covering one's backside is a wise move.
eye4talent
Blistering Drive
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
Jeff Jackson "stockpiles" like every other school. He has a 99 birthdate verbally committed. Apparently, Buff thinks it's 1988.
Jeff Jackson "stockpiles" like every other school. He has a 99 birthdate verbally committed. Apparently, Buff thinks it's 1988.
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
By 'old fashioned way' I am referring to Jackson honoring the gentlemen's agreement and not stockpiling players. I fully realize that Jackson recruits young blue chippers. Your problem, Bill, is that you ALWAYS like to be right and you want the entire forum to know you're right. If someone comes along and makes a good point, or thinks of something you haven't brought up or posted - it just kills you! And that's when you get all self-righteous and bully the people who post any opposing viewpoints. I'm sick of it. And I'm sure there are others on here who are too.
Now I suppose I'm going to be labeled a Roquette again. That's your good old 'standby' comment for anyone who opposes you. Well, that's wearing thin too. Yes, some of us are unhappy with the hiring of Damon Whitten, but it isn't necessarily because we're Roquettes. I, for one, am unhappy with the half-*****ed hiring process - specifically the fact that certain qualified individuals were not granted interviews and the fact that the process was steamrolled through without a proper search committee. Without rehashing all that, I will say that I don't believe Lake State got the RIGHT coach because the process was botched.
By 'old fashioned way' I am referring to Jackson honoring the gentlemen's agreement and not stockpiling players. I fully realize that Jackson recruits young blue chippers. Your problem, Bill, is that you ALWAYS like to be right and you want the entire forum to know you're right. If someone comes along and makes a good point, or thinks of something you haven't brought up or posted - it just kills you! And that's when you get all self-righteous and bully the people who post any opposing viewpoints. I'm sick of it. And I'm sure there are others on here who are too.
Now I suppose I'm going to be labeled a Roquette again. That's your good old 'standby' comment for anyone who opposes you. Well, that's wearing thin too. Yes, some of us are unhappy with the hiring of Damon Whitten, but it isn't necessarily because we're Roquettes. I, for one, am unhappy with the half-*****ed hiring process - specifically the fact that certain qualified individuals were not granted interviews and the fact that the process was steamrolled through without a proper search committee. Without rehashing all that, I will say that I don't believe Lake State got the RIGHT coach because the process was botched.
Do you understand the definition of stockpiling? Jackson does NOT stockpile.
blackswampboy
New member
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
this.
10 recruits over the next three years is hardly "stockpiling". an average number, nothing more.
Air Force, UNH, Northeastern...now there's some stockpiling.
sheesh, LSSU fans never cease to amaze in their ability to find creative new self-flagellation techniques.
"uh-oh, our recruiting is improving, can't be happy with that...time to peel some flesh off our own backs! thwack!"
congrats on your new coach and his recruiting get.
this.
10 recruits over the next three years is hardly "stockpiling". an average number, nothing more.
Air Force, UNH, Northeastern...now there's some stockpiling.
sheesh, LSSU fans never cease to amaze in their ability to find creative new self-flagellation techniques.
"uh-oh, our recruiting is improving, can't be happy with that...time to peel some flesh off our own backs! thwack!"
congrats on your new coach and his recruiting get.
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PerkyforPrez
Registered User
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
I believe the coach was saying for the most part their players are older that other teams passed by . I am sure most try to get whom they can regardless of age these days.
I believe the coach was saying for the most part their players are older that other teams passed by . I am sure most try to get whom they can regardless of age these days.
Do you? On the one hand you are saying that Jackson does not stockpile by virtue of the fact that he honors the gentleman's agreement. On the other hand you say Whitten is stockpiling. Which players has Whitten recruited that originally commited elsewhere? i.e. Where has he not honored the gentleman's agreement? If you don't have a firm answer to that with supprorting evidence, then it appears you are using different definitions of stockpiling for each coach.
Strictly from a numbers standpoint, Notre Dame has more players in the recruiting pipeline than LSSU does.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
Whitten is doing what Pearson did his first three years - fill the pipeline with guys that can play the speed/possession scheme that you want to implement. It's a phenomenon that is not limited to hockey. In fact, I think D1 football tends to be even more ruthless. At least new hockey coaches rarely make cuts to the rosters they inherit (and if they do, it's typically just one or two players).
If you want to call that stockpiling, then I guess you're out of touch with college sports.
Whitten is doing what Pearson did his first three years - fill the pipeline with guys that can play the speed/possession scheme that you want to implement. It's a phenomenon that is not limited to hockey. In fact, I think D1 football tends to be even more ruthless. At least new hockey coaches rarely make cuts to the rosters they inherit (and if they do, it's typically just one or two players).
If you want to call that stockpiling, then I guess you're out of touch with college sports.
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
If luring top rated recruits is deemed to be "stock piling" then I am all for it! Honestly people, this is a very very positive development and we have some whiners still complaining and hurling negatives just because they did not like the way the current coach was hired....****ing ridiculous!!
If these were your typical over-age Jimbo Roque style recruits, then yes I would call it stock piling but Whitten has bagged some serious talent...talent that hasn't been seen in these parts in a veeeery long time...hence the reference to Jackson....but what ever, as the old saying goes haters will hate but they will always be losers!
If luring top rated recruits is deemed to be "stock piling" then I am all for it! Honestly people, this is a very very positive development and we have some whiners still complaining and hurling negatives just because they did not like the way the current coach was hired....****ing ridiculous!!
If these were your typical over-age Jimbo Roque style recruits, then yes I would call it stock piling but Whitten has bagged some serious talent...talent that hasn't been seen in these parts in a veeeery long time...hence the reference to Jackson....but what ever, as the old saying goes haters will hate but they will always be losers!
DopeyBaker
Registered User
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
That is a great article that you posted. For you to claim Whitten is stockpiling, however, is clueless and wreckless on your part. You look like a bigger fool with every post you make.
That is a great article that you posted. For you to claim Whitten is stockpiling, however, is clueless and wreckless on your part. You look like a bigger fool with every post you make.
When all is said and done, Whitten will have a nice stockpile of recruits - more than enough - so when they start de-commiting, he'll still have a roster to work with. Speculation at this point, but that's what they do at Tech and that's what he knows. I find it to be an unethical recruiting process - but hey, I'm old school.
PerkyforPrez
Registered User
Your absolutely right.
HuskyNation
New member
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
*grabs for the popcorn*
This is entertaining.
Silly, but entertaining.
Whitten is a good recruiter and he is certainly missed at Tech. He has plenty of coaching experience and has some incredible mentors to pull ideas from. Just like all new systems, they take time to mature and develop....and if the cupboard is fairly bare with only a few players to depend on, it can be a bit longer than expected, or first originally thought.
*grabs for the popcorn*
This is entertaining.
Silly, but entertaining.
Whitten is a good recruiter and he is certainly missed at Tech. He has plenty of coaching experience and has some incredible mentors to pull ideas from. Just like all new systems, they take time to mature and develop....and if the cupboard is fairly bare with only a few players to depend on, it can be a bit longer than expected, or first originally thought.
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
I can see my efforts to educate you a little were a complete waste of everyone's time. Or are you just being stubborn?
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
I don't think that Whitten is stockpiling; but Jackson is an old friend and I assure you, he does not stockpile.
I don't think that Whitten is stockpiling; but Jackson is an old friend and I assure you, he does not stockpile.
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014-15
There's a video preview of the Notre Dame series available on the Lakers web site:
http://www.lssulakers.com/Lake_Superior_State_at_Notre_Dame
There's a video preview of the Notre Dame series available on the Lakers web site:
http://www.lssulakers.com/Lake_Superior_State_at_Notre_Dame