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LSSU hockey 2013-14

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davyd83 said:
It's easy to say it wouldn't take much time, effort or money when you don't know all the details of what those who you wish to do it have to do or what their resources or compensation are. Check Ferris, NMU, Tech or Bemidji. You're not going to see much more output than you see at LSSU. Hey, feel free to apply for the job. I'm sure you'd be more than willing to put in the hours they do (60 hour weeks are the easy ones in season) for the paycheck they pull down. Personally, I tip my cap to the SIDs in the WCHA & GLIAC. They are overworked, underpaid, understaffed and under resourced and there's always someone ready to criticize that neither could nor would be able to do the job or know what it entails. While the critics are out with their friends having a beer at the Downtowner or at home with their families, they're still in the office until midnight on a day that started at 8 am.
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Michigan Tech does a good job with their website keeping up with the latest hockey news.

http://www.michigantechhuskies.com/sports/mice/index
 
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Lakerblue said:
Just to be clear -- y'all know there is a me, the lovable scamp Lakerblue . . . and another poster by the name of Laker-Blue. Confused even me. Just making it clear.

Now, can the program, and the University, be a little more media-and-fan-friendly? Yes. One of the nuggets of rare truth that is spouted by Truthy McTruth is that there is a rather cloistered communication ring on the Hill. I would personally like to see more information, tid-bits, news, etc . . . coming from Athletics. I don't think there is any conspiracy abounding -- I think its a combination of resource management, and myopic small town attitude.
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I was, for a short time, the ASID at UAH. Never underestimate how overworked sports information people can be. UAH doesn't do all that you suggest, and a big reason behind that is there are two full-time employees covering 14 varsity sports. Our three highest-profile sports are hockey and men's and women's basketball: the lone D-I sport and the two best-attended sports. All three happen concurrently, and they overlap baseball and softball (which are both very good programs). There were some UAH Athletics staff members when I was working at the school that worked 40 consecutive days between game prep, gameday, and post-game (including stats transmittal to the conferences). That's just so much to do for two people. Sure, they have assistance from one or two other people in the department, but it's just not enough.

Looking at the LSSU staff directory, there are just two people there for 13 varsity sports. I'm going to guess that they're just as over-worked.

If you want more data, work with them as a volunteer and I'm willing to bet that they'll feed you all the data that you'd like. That's what we're doing at UAH.

GFM
 
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I don't claim to know what the exact situation is in the LSSU SID, it's very likely that they are understaffed, overworked, etc. The part I'm focusing on specifically is as it pertains to the summer, off season, etc. They manage to always have game recaps posted within a few hours during the season, the time of year that is the busiest what with basketball, volleyball, etc. going on. If they are still on the job full time during the summer (and let me be clear this is a grand assumption on my part, as I said I have no inside knowledge, and if their summer hours are reduced then forgive my speculation on all counts) than it seems like there is far less to attend to than during the season, the time when they manage to get said game recaps up within an hour or two of the conclusion of the game, and it seems like they might have an easier time posting the content I mentioned in previous posts. Above all, I'm not here to pi*s and moan or complain that people aren't doing their job "good enough" at the root of my point is just a wish for the Laker program to be more appealing to the masses to generate greater fan support and enjoy the same fruits of "fandom" that we all seem to enjoy....We all have our complaints about this program but we wouldn't be here posting if we didn't care so much about the success of the program, and while I'm at it I see this as a good opportunity to give everyone a shout-out/ pat on the back for keeping good Laker hockey conversations going, we all disagree on different things and have varying opinions but I thoroughly enjoy reading and posting on here and we should be proud of ourselves, we are well on our way to completing a whole 50 page thread over the doldrums of college hockey that is the off season, a quick look around USCHO doesn't reveal many school's threads that keep pace with this one, and none of a school this small....I will step off my soap box now and wish everyone else a pleasant conclusion to their summer!
 
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AnchorsAway said:
I don't claim to know what the exact situation is in the LSSU SID, it's very likely that they are understaffed, overworked, etc. The part I'm focusing on specifically is as it pertains to the summer, off season, etc. They manage to always have game recaps posted within a few hours during the season, the time of year that is the busiest what with basketball, volleyball, etc. going on. If they are still on the job full time during the summer (and let me be clear this is a grand assumption on my part, as I said I have no inside knowledge, and if their summer hours are reduced then forgive my speculation on all counts) than it seems like there is far less to attend to than during the season, the time when they manage to get said game recaps up within an hour or two of the conclusion of the game, and it seems like they might have an easier time posting the content I mentioned in previous posts. Above all, I'm not here to pi*s and moan or complain that people aren't doing their job "good enough" at the root of my point is just a wish for the Laker program to be more appealing to the masses to generate greater fan support and enjoy the same fruits of "fandom" that we all seem to enjoy....We all have our complaints about this program but we wouldn't be here posting if we didn't care so much about the success of the program, and while I'm at it I see this as a good opportunity to give everyone a shout-out/ pat on the back for keeping good Laker hockey conversations going, we all disagree on different things and have varying opinions but I thoroughly enjoy reading and posting on here and we should be proud of ourselves, we are well on our way to completing a whole 50 page thread over the doldrums of college hockey that is the off season, a quick look around USCHO doesn't reveal many school's threads that keep pace with this one, and none of a school this small....I will step off my soap box now and wish everyone else a pleasant conclusion to their summer!
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Game recaps are easy: it all just happened, your interviews are fresh, and you're writing to a deadline. That doesn't happen with research or features.

GFM
 
sm2pk said:
A last place finish for the Lakers would not be a shock to me this coming season .
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I'd be shocked if LSSU doesn't make the playoffs. Worst case scenario: 8th, best case: playing the final regular season series with a chance at a home playoff berth.
 
jnacc said:
This isn't about the donor but about what is believed and what is fantasy. This project announced back in 2009 has turned out to be a fantasy and for the past year many of us here have told you so.....hey if someone wants to donate....DO IT, if not....shut up and move on. As for Roque, sure we rip on him because he is incompetent and seems to be in over his head. He has had the most talent that this program has had in the past 15 years but he cannot produce a winner. Many of us are saying that its time for him to go. As for Dunbar, I really do not have an opinion but I will say this, she, like Roque, was handed the job...no interview required, no national search done. Here you go Mrs Dunbar, enjoy the job. That is not the way a college should conduct business. Of course both Dunbar and Roque were former athletes and the high ups in the administration such a Bill Crawford (awesome radio guy...lousy administrator) simply saw fit to hand the head coaching job to
Roque and gave the nod to Dunbar and here we are today.
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Dunbar and Roque were bargains.
 
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davyd83 said:
I'd be shocked if LSSU doesn't make the playoffs. Worst case scenario: 8th, best case: playing the final regular season series with a chance at a home playoff berth.
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Why?

Because Tech and Northern are such powerhouses? BWAHAHAHAHA.
Because suddenly Ferris, BSU and UAA now have stud-packed teams? BWAHAHAHAHA.

Haha (whipping away tear) -- seriously -- its funny.

LSSU has incoming, established outstanding veteran goaltending and a solid now-veteran defense corps. Last I checked, Northern was second from the bottom in the CCHA, saved only by a terrible MSU team from being the worst in the league.
UAH went 3-21-1.
Tech lost 20 games;
UAA lost 25 games,
the Beavers lost 22 games,
BGSU lost 21 games.

Mankato should have a decent year, but that's probably about as far from a "powerhouse" as you'll find in the Big Snow Conference. Ferris and Fairbanks had "decent" years last season -- meaning they limped to barely about .500 -- but nobody pegged them as any post-season dangerous team, and their programs are not likely to be thought of as anything close to "Top Five in the Nation."

So we have these dire prediction of LSSU languishing in 8th place, hoping for home ice. Huh, that's funny, LSSU looked like one of the MUCH more solid, secure programs when compared to the wreckage at the bottom half of the table -- How was 2012-2013 for you guys at Northern?

Somebody show me the amazing talent and up-and-coming stud recruits these languishing programs have brought in? I know the folks in Houghton are fired up because they like their coach -- but other than a GLI title (no small thing, I agree), Tech is still losing 20 games a year. The folks in Marquette have always historically oversold their team -- in much the same way we at LSSU always gripe out our Lakes, the Wildcats always believe they are somehow better then they are. "Last place? Well, wait until __________ arrives on campus this year, we are going to dominate." I suppose this is what happened when you populate a campus with every metro-Detroit kid who managed to score a 16 on his/her ACT -- critical thinking is generally a byproduct of intelligence. Northern is basically Bay De Noc -- Marquette Campus.


Sorry, folks, but I don't buy the predictions of LSSU's doom. While LSSU may have trouble scoring, I must ask: In the new WCHA, which team has a stud player(s) who is(are) going to score on our defense and goalkeeping?

Prediction: LSSU in first place. Mankato 2nd. BGSU third. Tech and Northern? 20 more losses, each.
 
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Lakerblue said:
Sorry, folks, but I don't buy the predictions of LSSU's doom. While LSSU may have trouble scoring, I must ask: In the new WCHA, which team has a stud player(s) who is(are) going to score on our defense and goalkeeping?

Prediction: LSSU in first place. Mankato 2nd. BGSU third. Tech and Northern? 20 more losses, each.
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I agree with this prediction. Ignore the last six seasons of finishes in 8th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 10th, and 10th place. This year everything will be different! If not next year or the year after that.
 
Lakerblue said:
Why?

Because Tech and Northern are such powerhouses? BWAHAHAHAHA.
Because suddenly Ferris, BSU and UAA now have stud-packed teams? BWAHAHAHAHA.

Haha (whipping away tear) -- seriously -- its funny.

LSSU has incoming, established outstanding veteran goaltending and a solid now-veteran defense corps. Last I checked, Northern was second from the bottom in the CCHA, saved only by a terrible MSU team from being the worst in the league.
UAH went 3-21-1.
Tech lost 20 games;
UAA lost 25 games,
the Beavers lost 22 games,
BGSU lost 21 games.

Mankato should have a decent year, but that's probably about as far from a "powerhouse" as you'll find in the Big Snow Conference. Ferris and Fairbanks had "decent" years last season -- meaning they limped to barely about .500 -- but nobody pegged them as any post-season dangerous team, and their programs are not likely to be thought of as anything close to "Top Five in the Nation."

So we have these dire prediction of LSSU languishing in 8th place, hoping for home ice. Huh, that's funny, LSSU looked like one of the MUCH more solid, secure programs when compared to the wreckage at the bottom half of the table -- How was 2012-2013 for you guys at Northern?

Somebody show me the amazing talent and up-and-coming stud recruits these languishing programs have brought in? I know the folks in Houghton are fired up because they like their coach -- but other than a GLI title (no small thing, I agree), Tech is still losing 20 games a year. The folks in Marquette have always historically oversold their team -- in much the same way we at LSSU always gripe out our Lakes, the Wildcats always believe they are somehow better then they are. "Last place? Well, wait until __________ arrives on campus this year, we are going to dominate." I suppose this is what happened when you populate a campus with every metro-Detroit kid who managed to score a 16 on his/her ACT -- critical thinking is generally a byproduct of intelligence. Northern is basically Bay De Noc -- Marquette Campus.


Sorry, folks, but I don't buy the predictions of LSSU's doom. While LSSU may have trouble scoring, I must ask: In the new WCHA, which team has a stud player(s) who is(are) going to score on our defense and goalkeeping?

Prediction: LSSU in first place. Mankato 2nd. BGSU third. Tech and Northern? 20 more losses, each.
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Did you see the part about "best case" and "worst case?" The Lakers goaltending and D are the main reasons I think they could end up in the Top 4. Also note prior post where I've stated that you could basically take Tech, LSSU, NMU, Ferris, Bowling Green, UAF and Bemidji, throw the names in a hat and draw them out in any order for the 2-8 seeds. Each team has positives. Each team has question marks. You obviously missed this part; "Best case: playing the final regular season weekend with a chance of a home playoff berth." That prediction could have them as high as 2nd, 3rd or 4th (I think Mankato wins it). Nowhere did I say NMU, Ferris, Tech or anyone was any better than LSSU. If the Lakers find their worst case, most will be better. If the find their best case, most will be worse. Chances are they fall somewhere in between and some are better and some are not..

How was 2012-13 for NMU? They finished 3 points (one game) behind LSSU in CCHA play, and they both finished 4 games under .500 overall.

One other question, who are all these "Metro Detroit" kids on the NMU roster? I saw only two last year. DJ Vandercook (Farmington Hills) and Austin Handley (Clarkston).
 
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davyd83 said:
Wes also has more staffing and funding than Linda does. It makes a difference. Even has another full timer above what LSSU has. They are similar but not exactly alike.
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A manager at McDonalds makes more per year than Linda does. I don't even know why she is here making that kind of money. LSSU is pretty lucky to have her at that price. She practically creates the Hockey Media Guide from scratch every year. That alone must take a ton of time.
 
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Breaking News out of Buffalo: Coach Jim Roque not selected to coach Team Canada in the next Olympic Winter Games.

Sault Ste Marie can breathe easy. He's not going anywhere.

:D
 
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Lakers2Glory said:
Breaking News out of Buffalo: Coach Jim Roque not selected to coach Team Canada in the next Olympic Winter Games.

Sault Ste Marie can breathe easy. He's not going anywhere.

:D
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Too bad...his selection to coach Canada would have really helped out the U.S. in winning gold....:cool:
 
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davyd83 said:
Did you see the part about "best case" and "worst case?" The Lakers goaltending and D are the main reasons I think they could end up in the Top 4. Also note prior post where I've stated that you could basically take Tech, LSSU, NMU, Ferris, Bowling Green, UAF and Bemidji, throw the names in a hat and draw them out in any order for the 2-8 seeds. Each team has positives. Each team has question marks. You obviously missed this part; "Best case: playing the final regular season weekend with a chance of a home playoff berth." That prediction could have them as high as 2nd, 3rd or 4th (I think Mankato wins it). Nowhere did I say NMU, Ferris, Tech or anyone was any better than LSSU. If the Lakers find their worst case, most will be better. If the find their best case, most will be worse. Chances are they fall somewhere in between and some are better and some are not..

How was 2012-13 for NMU? They finished 3 points (one game) behind LSSU in CCHA play, and they both finished 4 games under .500 overall.

One other question, who are all these "Metro Detroit" kids on the NMU roster? I saw only two last year. DJ Vandercook (Farmington Hills) and Austin Handley (Clarkston).
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I think he was referring to NMU's general campus popuation, although for the sake of good record keeping, technically Seckel could be considered a "Metro Detroit" kid, his hometown is listed as Melvin but until adolescence he lived in Chesterfield and played his youth hockey in Metro Detroit until juniors.

To the bigger point I think the bottom line that you correctly alluded to, is that the WCHA this year is shaping up to define parity, with lots of roster changes, coaching changes, and the fact that teams are coming in from a couple of different conferences there is simply no one who is really qualified to offer what can be considered expert analysis on how the standings will shake out, there are simply too many variables at play. I don't really see there being very many results this year that I will consider "upsets", this year is unique as it will serve as a baseline for expectations going forward, it should be interesting to see where the chips fall at the end of the season as well as the paths they take to get there.
 
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It would have been pretty special to have an LSSU Alumni game vs. the Red Wings Alumni team for a charity fundraiser. Kudos to the Soo Eagles for bringing in what should be a fantastic game to watch.
 
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Lakers2Glory said:
It would have been pretty special to have an LSSU Alumni game vs. the Red Wings Alumni team for a charity fundraiser. Kudos to the Soo Eagles for bringing in what should be a fantastic game to watch.
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I agree. It will be great and I'm sure the Pullar will be packed.

Anyone know if there will be a Blue/White game this year?
 
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