Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
. . . and in addition to the CWS, they play a 55-game regular season schedule.
. . . and in addition to the CWS, they play a 55-game regular season schedule.
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Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
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Puck Swami
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
It might work to get together a Packaged Deal for the smaller schools to all get supplied by just one supplier, and I would probably target another supplier besides Nike there. Somebody that would apreatace the bump in revenue they would get if a team like AIC ever got hot and made a Frozen Four Run. AIC making a run would be just a drop in a bucket for Nike.
Also with this deal, It would have to be able to get the rest of the schools athletic department under their brand as well. It wouldn't look good if Brand X is making a delivery of Ferris State Jersey's that they made to the FSU book store only to look over and see some FSU Football jersey's made by Nike or Reebok.
It might work to get together a Packaged Deal for the smaller schools to all get supplied by just one supplier, and I would probably target another supplier besides Nike there. Somebody that would apreatace the bump in revenue they would get if a team like AIC ever got hot and made a Frozen Four Run. AIC making a run would be just a drop in a bucket for Nike.
Also with this deal, It would have to be able to get the rest of the schools athletic department under their brand as well. It wouldn't look good if Brand X is making a delivery of Ferris State Jersey's that they made to the FSU book store only to look over and see some FSU Football jersey's made by Nike or Reebok.
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
No, your point was, as I interpreted it, certain anchor institutions have ignored/been disinterested in the warning signs of contraction, REGARDLESS of the cause, thus affecting the current 16 team NCAA tourney field. I don't think that is the case as much as the NCAA ignoring these warning signs. They are the responsible party in this. But like Alton pointed out, many of the member institutions represented on these cabinets do not have a stake in college hockey. You astutely pointed out that Kelly should step in to that issue. That is all I was saying. And yes, I find it disingenuous when people point fingers at individual institutions and suggest that they are at fault for the crumbling of the college hockey foundation.
No, your point was, as I interpreted it, certain anchor institutions have ignored/been disinterested in the warning signs of contraction, REGARDLESS of the cause, thus affecting the current 16 team NCAA tourney field. I don't think that is the case as much as the NCAA ignoring these warning signs. They are the responsible party in this. But like Alton pointed out, many of the member institutions represented on these cabinets do not have a stake in college hockey. You astutely pointed out that Kelly should step in to that issue. That is all I was saying. And yes, I find it disingenuous when people point fingers at individual institutions and suggest that they are at fault for the crumbling of the college hockey foundation.
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Don't most schools (the baseball powerhouses anyway) have an NCAA-sanctioned fall practice season also, similar to spring football?
If so, that's another difference between hockey (and other winter sports) and spring/fall sports.
Don't most schools (the baseball powerhouses anyway) have an NCAA-sanctioned fall practice season also, similar to spring football?
If so, that's another difference between hockey (and other winter sports) and spring/fall sports.
du78
Gunning For 10
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
I just went back and looked at the 1977-78 DU schedule. DU played 36 regular season games with the first game being on October 28th and the last being on March 4th. They played every weekend except for one bye the weekend of December 9th and 10th. The team had off from Dec 18th through 26th with practice beginning on the 27th for games on the 29th and 30th. The WCHA playoffs started March 10-11 with the second and final round 3 days later on March 14-15. WCHA Playoffs were 8 teams with the top 4 hosting the first round and the second round was hosted by the two remaining hghest seeds. The two WCHA playoff winners advanced to the NCAA tourney that had 6 teams. The four lowest seeds played on March 18th and 19th with the two winners advancing to the semi-finals. The two top seeds got byes to the NCAA semi-finals that were held on March 23 and 24th. The finals and 3rd place game were played on March 25th. Essentially the entire season including playoffs was played in 5 months.
Precisely.
I just went back and looked at the 1977-78 DU schedule. DU played 36 regular season games with the first game being on October 28th and the last being on March 4th. They played every weekend except for one bye the weekend of December 9th and 10th. The team had off from Dec 18th through 26th with practice beginning on the 27th for games on the 29th and 30th. The WCHA playoffs started March 10-11 with the second and final round 3 days later on March 14-15. WCHA Playoffs were 8 teams with the top 4 hosting the first round and the second round was hosted by the two remaining hghest seeds. The two WCHA playoff winners advanced to the NCAA tourney that had 6 teams. The four lowest seeds played on March 18th and 19th with the two winners advancing to the semi-finals. The two top seeds got byes to the NCAA semi-finals that were held on March 23 and 24th. The finals and 3rd place game were played on March 25th. Essentially the entire season including playoffs was played in 5 months.
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BoomGoestheDynamite
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
What I worry about is that the NCAA has already shown a willingness to cut or disadvantage the other sport that competes with a professional development system. If they don't care about LSU or Texas possibly losing players to AA ball, they certainly aren't going to pay much attention to North Dakota or BU losing players to the CHL.
What I worry about is that the NCAA has already shown a willingness to cut or disadvantage the other sport that competes with a professional development system. If they don't care about LSU or Texas possibly losing players to AA ball, they certainly aren't going to pay much attention to North Dakota or BU losing players to the CHL.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Michigan and the CCHA have less bye weeks because their conference tournament is longer...
Excluding the two weeks in December that typically coincide with finals and Christmas (and will thus almost assuredly never have games), many teams only have one bye week.
Runninwiththedogs
Tech Hot
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Yeah, but see, things were different then. Those were 26-year-old Canadians.
Yeah, but see, things were different then. Those were 26-year-old Canadians.
du78
Gunning For 10
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
{sigh}
Actually there were a number of Americans on that team including several from Minnesota. Just off of the top of my head Woods, Sandbeck, Falcone, Roehl (Michigan) and Pazzelli come to mind.
Yeah, but see, things were different then. Those were 26-year-old Canadians.
{sigh}
Actually there were a number of Americans on that team including several from Minnesota. Just off of the top of my head Woods, Sandbeck, Falcone, Roehl (Michigan) and Pazzelli come to mind.
wolverine318
Dark Lord of the Sith-Yost Regiment
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
I agree with everything you said, except this point. The majority of sponsorship deals in college athletics is made on an individual basis between the school and the specific company (Nike, Adidas, UnderAmour, etc...). The vast majority of these contracts are also athletic department wide. Therefore, one maker supplies an entire athletic department. Having one sponsorship deal would create numerous legal issues in regards to the current sponsorship contracts in place with individual schools. I doubt the NCAA wants to open up this can of worms, which would remain in court for years to come.
I agree with everything you said, except this point. The majority of sponsorship deals in college athletics is made on an individual basis between the school and the specific company (Nike, Adidas, UnderAmour, etc...). The vast majority of these contracts are also athletic department wide. Therefore, one maker supplies an entire athletic department. Having one sponsorship deal would create numerous legal issues in regards to the current sponsorship contracts in place with individual schools. I doubt the NCAA wants to open up this can of worms, which would remain in court for years to come.
Puck Swami
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
I am aware of this, and addressed a potential solution in post #47.
Existing athletic dept. contracts would be honored until they expire.
I am aware of this, and addressed a potential solution in post #47.
Existing athletic dept. contracts would be honored until they expire.
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Yeah, no.
But thank you for trying to tell me what my point was.
Yeah, no.
But thank you for trying to tell me what my point was.
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Farce Poobah
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Hockey should start playing doubleheaders.
. . . and in addition to the CWS, they play a 55-game regular season schedule.
Hockey should start playing doubleheaders.
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
That makes me tired just thinking about that.
That makes me tired just thinking about that.
Happy
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
men's college hockey has one thing going for it that most of the other sports do not, the post season tourney makes money for the ncaa. almost all other post season tourneys lose money, and many rules are passed to try and control the bleeding. I think only mens BB, mens Baseball?, men's hockey, and maybe WB make money, everything else is a money pit.
men's college hockey has one thing going for it that most of the other sports do not, the post season tourney makes money for the ncaa. almost all other post season tourneys lose money, and many rules are passed to try and control the bleeding. I think only mens BB, mens Baseball?, men's hockey, and maybe WB make money, everything else is a money pit.
Puck Swami
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Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Men's lacrosse now makes money. too. Women's basketball loses money.
Men's lacrosse now makes money. too. Women's basketball loses money.
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Musta been that multi-OT game last spring, right?
Musta been that multi-OT game last spring, right?
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
Why would the Frozen Four in April keep the NCAA from eliminating hockey in October?
Why would the Frozen Four in April keep the NCAA from eliminating hockey in October?
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.
How insane is that? Wow. How do the poor lads ever get any coursework done?
I also love the fact that only 2 school of the 30 or so on this commitee have hockey. How screwed up is that? That's like having all the Presidents and Prime Ministers of the all countries in the northern hemisphere deciding on how the US should run it's foreign policy programs the the US only gets 1 vote.
The ncaa should be disbanded and every sport should administer itself.
. . . and in addition to the CWS, they play a 55-game regular season schedule.
How insane is that? Wow. How do the poor lads ever get any coursework done?
I also love the fact that only 2 school of the 30 or so on this commitee have hockey.
How screwed up is that? That's like having all the Presidents and Prime Ministers of the all countries in the northern hemisphere deciding on how the US should run it's foreign policy programs the the US only gets 1 vote.The ncaa should be disbanded and every sport should administer itself.