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LIU adds Men's D-1 Hockey

Well goalie is the one place you could actually be picky, even for the situation LIU is currently in now. You really only need two (maybe a third willing to redshirt) and finding the right one could be the difference between an ok first season and a zero win first season. There are far more goalies than D-I opportunities available and who you put in net will have a huge impact on your inaugural season.
 
JohnsonsJerseys said:
Well goalie is the one place you could actually be picky, even for the situation LIU is currently in now. You really only need two (maybe a third willing to redshirt) and finding the right one could be the difference between an ok first season and a zero win first season. There are far more goalies than D-I opportunities available and who you put in net will have a huge impact on your inaugural season.
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https://twitter.com/MarkDivver/status/1271568792531992579
BU goalie Vinnie Purpura headed to LIU. Maine's Stephen Mundinger of Smithtown, Long Island, joining Sharks as grad transfer
 
Ralph Baer said:
Mundinger is a grad transfer. So he definitely can play.
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Purpura's EP page confirms 2020-21 as an NCAA transfer year, so apparently he'll sit while Mundinger can indeed play as a grad transfer. Given Mundinger hasn't played a whole lot over his 4 year college career, one would assume that Coach Riley will recruit another goalie who can hit the ground running.
 
LIU just picked up former RPI d-man Mat Harris. Harris had been cut after the 2018-19 season but stayed this year to graduate from the school. He will have 2 years of eligibility
 
sezenack said:
LIU just picked up former RPI d-man Mat Harris. Harris had been cut after the 2018-19 season but stayed this year to graduate from the school. He will have 2 years of eligibility
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I'm surprised I hadn't thought of him as a candidate for LIU. This is a good pick up for them. IIRC Harris had the misfortune of being a late commit to the previous coach (about 2 weeks before he was fired). He was never able to establish himself as a regular and eventually got caught in a numbers game as defensive depth became the Engineers' strong suit under the new staff. Nonetheless, he got about 30 games under his belt over two seasons as a D-I defenseman and didn't look out of place while also dealing with family tragedy - the passing of his father during his freshman year. He will bring experience and help provide class balance to what will be an extremely freshmen dominated lineup. Congratulations to Mat and LIU.
 
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HofstraHockey said:
Well, looks like games at the Coliseum may be out of the question for this year. I still think, with their Brooklyn campus around the corner, that games at Barclays may happen against some of the bigger names down the line. https://twitter.com/jimbaumbach/stat...972011522?s=21
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Perhaps, but Barclay's management considered the Islanders an annoyance, much less a college team. The building was designed without any consideration for hockey and then they jury-rigged an ice arrangement for the Islanders, which resulted in nearly unanimous complaints about the ice. Once the Belmont arena opens I think it might be a more natural facility for a game or two per year. It's 1/2 way between LIU's two campuses and it's designed for hockey so it will have ice in place without special conversion and, perhaps, more friendly management.
 
rpi82 said:
Perhaps, but Barclay's management considered the Islanders an annoyance, much less a college team. The building was designed without any consideration for hockey and then they jury-rigged an ice arrangement for the Islanders, which resulted in nearly unanimous complaints about the ice. Once the Belmont arena opens I think it might be a more natural facility for a game or two per year. It's 1/2 way between LIU's two campuses and it's designed for hockey so it will have ice in place without special conversion and, perhaps, more friendly management.
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The ice plant at Barclays with built with college hockey (and ice shows) in mind. 41 games, absolutely not. Special event hockey games- why else would they have put it in?

And how are they going to pay for it? The same way that a college basketball weekend featuring Wisconsin, Auburn, Richmond, and New Mexico does (currently scheduled for this Nov)- sell some tickets to alumni and people in town for a vacation. This obviously isn't for when they're playing Niagra or AIC, this is when Michigan or BU or Cornell comes to town. Unless, of course, you think this LIU-St. Peters game there was a big time money maker https://www.barclayscenter.com/event...eters-20191204 (the announced attendance, by the way, was 681)
 
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Mundinger played behind Jeremy Swayman. He wasnt going to get many chances.

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HofstraHockey said:
The ice plant at Barclays with built with college hockey (and ice shows) in mind. 41 games, absolutely not. Special event hockey games- why else would they have put it in?

And how are they going to pay for it? The same way that a college basketball weekend featuring Wisconsin, Auburn, Richmond, and New Mexico does (currently scheduled for this Nov)- sell some tickets to alumni and people in town for a vacation. This obviously isn't for when they're playing Niagra or AIC, this is when Michigan or BU or Cornell comes to town. Unless, of course, you think this LIU-St. Peters game there was a big time money maker https://www.barclayscenter.com/event...eters-20191204 (the announced attendance, by the way, was 681)
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You are comparing apples and oranges. There's relatively little cost to hosting a college basketball game, particularly one using the Nets floor as LIU and St. Peter's did. In fact, the same floor was used for a Net's game the night before and a high school hoops festival the next day. It's something else to have to pull up the floor, make ice (they aren't going to keep ice under the basketball floor with no hockey tenant), install boards and then reverse the process for another basketball game in subsequent days.

Barclay's, or any part of it, wasn't designed with college hockey in mind. If the awful hockey layout that was created for the Islanders wasn't a clue (pushed to one side with most seats remaining at that end obstructed view or just not sold), here is the description from the Barclay's Center website when they started construction:

"The 850,000-square-foot, state-of-the-art sports and entertainment venue will be home to the professional basketball team the Brooklyn Nets. For the first time since the Dodgers left in 1957, Brooklyn will have a major league sports team to call its own. The Barclays Center will welcome some of the most exciting sports and entertainment events in the world: concerts, fine arts performances, circuses, college basketball games, ice shows, and music award shows are just some of the possibilities."

Note what was missing - any mention of hockey (not even an NHL exhibition game). That's why they installed a PVC-based system for their primary use - ice shows. Below is another article which cites the developer's own plan for the arena schedule. Once again, it doesn't mention hockey, much less college hockey.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2007/8/26/...about-brooklyn

They need to field a team and get competitive before inviting Michigan, Cornell or any other program to play at a major arena and, even then, they'd be better served using one whose design and cost structure give them a chance for success.
 
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rpi82 said:
You are comparing apples and oranges. There's relatively little cost to hosting a college basketball game, particularly one using the Nets floor as LIU and St. Peter's did. In fact, the same floor was used for a Net's game the night before and a high school hoops festival the next day. It's something else to have to pull up the floor, make ice (they aren't going to keep ice under the basketball floor with no hockey tenant), install boards and then reverse the process for another basketball game in subsequent days.

Barclay's, or any part of it, wasn't designed with college hockey in mind. If the awful hockey layout that was created for the Islanders wasn't a clue (pushed to one side with most seats remaining at that end obstructed view or just not sold), here is the description from the Barclay's Center website when they started construction:

"The 850,000-square-foot, state-of-the-art sports and entertainment venue will be home to the professional basketball team the Brooklyn Nets. For the first time since the Dodgers left in 1957, Brooklyn will have a major league sports team to call its own. The Barclays Center will welcome some of the most exciting sports and entertainment events in the world: concerts, fine arts performances, circuses, college basketball games, ice shows, and music award shows are just some of the possibilities."

Note what was missing - any mention of hockey (not even an NHL exhibition game). That's why they installed a PVC-based system for their primary use - ice shows. Below is another article which cites the developer's own plan for the arena schedule. Once again, it doesn't mention hockey, much less college hockey.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2007/8/26/...about-brooklyn

They need to field a team and get competitive before inviting Michigan, Cornell or any other program to play at a major arena and, even then, they'd be better served using one whose design and cost structure give them a chance for success.
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You'll notice that there was no mention of an NHL team then either, and yet here we are. I don't think they built Madison Square Garden with the intention of hosting pro bull riding, but it turns out that if there's a reason to host it, they will. I go to games every year at MSG that are pulling in huge crowds.

Their women's team got Wisconsin to show up last year, and I can't imagine all 18 of the DI games they already have scheduled are on the road. The Islanders will be in Brooklyn next year, unless someone comes and drops a cool $100 mil in debt payments to pick up the lease on an empty building. Ice will be there.
 
Fine. The women's team lost 12-0 at the Coliseum before an announced crowd of 83 (roughly 1/3 of what they drew the night before in Syosset) for an early season date between Islanders games so they didn't have to pay to convert the now bankrupt arena. If they want to lose 12-0 with their first year men's team during the last year there may be regular ice at Barclays go for it. Then again, the Islanders have been back at Barclays for about 24 hours and the NHL/NBA schedules for next season are, at best, guesses as they try to figure out how to finish this season, so it's highly unlikely they even know when the ice will be available. After this season Barclays will be out of the hockey business and it will be Belmont or bust if they have dreams of playing an occasional arena game.
 
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