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Leopards Ate My Face! The Official Thread.
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Dems lost twice to Trump, maybe they should deal with that stupidity first??
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
But you don't need a large group, you only need a dire economic circumstance. That's the point. The vast majority of the Dumpies are not Right Wing Authoritarians, they are weaklings who will give up democracy for 3 hots and a cot. They could as easily fall for Pol Pot.
What happens when Dump's inept Band of Grifters doesn't make things better -- indeed, make things way worse? A Lefty Demagogue could easily make a run. Not AOC or Omar -- not people who get fear painted by the GOP as Lefties. I mean the real thing. Huey Long on steroids. Lock up the (((rich))) and return their fortunes to The People.
The Righties who laugh about the subversion of our democratic institutions by the Roberts Court, because they are the ones who benefitted, are going to be singing a different tune then. Unitary Executive Theory won't seem like such a trivial detail.
You can't make stupid people smart. Especially when those stupid people think they are actually smarter than all those "elites" who just look down upon them.
We saw it with Covid. You can't convince them of something they don't want to be convinced of, no matter how many facts, or proof, or actual science you can show them. They know they're right, cause they "did their own research", and anyway, you elitists don't know any better than me anyway, everyone knows I'm right, it's just common sense.
And that's just how they go about voting too. Nothing you can say to them can convince them that Democrats aren't just pedophile groomers looking to change the sex of their kids. Everyone knows this. They feel this(from the group that says 'fuk your feelings'). It's just common sense.
On my Facebook feed the other day, there was one of those obvious fake Russian trollbot posts about how Tom Hanks was gonna leave the country now that Trump's president. One of the replies was some guy who said something like, "doesn't matter, they all need to be hunted down and made to pay for their crimes"
How do you combat something like that?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
walrus is obviously disingenuous, however I think we should take him up on the idea. If we're so smart, why can't we figure out a way to win elections?
I give you these Ten Commandments:
1. Give up on stupid people ever getting smarter. This means rational policy positions during elections don't matter. Promise whatever.
2. Give up on selfish people ever caring about others. This means encouraging people based on the ethical consequences of their votes is pointless. Demonize electoral opponents and announce all evil stems from them, regardless of fact. Bully and threaten retribution.
3. Take a lesson from the GOP and start lying to the stupid people. The conservatives come from business so they understand how to market. Frighten. Exaggerate. Lie. Ever since Reagan this has been the core of Republican messaging, and it has gotten the derps to vote against their own interests again and again. We need to start doing that.
4. There are no consequences, period. Dump is the great inflection point of understanding the masses. The enlightenment notion that the masses have a core of moral good is wrong. The liberal notion that the masses can be educated is wrong. The Left notion that the masses can be taught to understand their class interests so they can lead is atrociously wrong. Anybody who met these people growing up should never have fallen for these hyper-intellectualized fantasies. These are barnyard animals. Stop lifting them up, it only annoys them and hurts your back.
5. Operate from strength. You never win by losing. There are no moral victories. Fight just as hard and just as dirty as the other guys.
6. Divide and conquer. The only divergence in theory between Left and Right that ever mattered was what to do with the economic losers. The Left prescribed assistance, the Right said the devil take the hindmost. Adopt both positions, and colonize both parties. Again: take walrus up on his idea. Stop being principled and start winning. The policy you argue for in the marketplace is just a method of gaining power. Once in power you can keep power from the derps; that is the only goal.
7. Divide and conquer, in the second sense. We have learned now how America dies: the electorate becomes divided based on education and intelligence, leaving the morons who will always have greater numbers to control the levers of a power they can never understand or use responsibly. We have to split the morons back between the parties, thus nullifying them at least half the time if not more.
8. Govern to benefit ourselves. Stop squandering our energy and sympathy on pigs, they don't deserve it. Craft policies that extend our power and tamp down the power of those important power centers that immediately threaten us. Protect and empower intellect; weaken and disunify stupidity whatever its political flavor.
9. Stop trying to save people who are actively destroying their own lives. Stop trying to save their children. Humans who are raised by animals realize their humanity and if they are also energetic they leave them and join us on their own terms. It is a necessary right of passage, like being the smart kid in a religious school who comes to knowledge first by rejecting the idiocy around her. That new blood will keep us from stagnating -- it will always be new energy to shake us from our lazy habits, and it will take us the places we will have become too insulated to understand.
10. For f-ck's sake, be self-confident. We are the heirs to and the origin of every good idea humanity has ever had. We are the thinkers, the artists, the scientists. While there are plenty of engineers who are animals there are still plenty among us, and we easily can tell the difference in the workplace. Advance our own. Ignore the rest. Power is tribal -- it's time we became aware of our tribe.
I give you these Ten Commandments:
1. Give up on stupid people ever getting smarter. This means rational policy positions during elections don't matter. Promise whatever.
2. Give up on selfish people ever caring about others. This means encouraging people based on the ethical consequences of their votes is pointless. Demonize electoral opponents and announce all evil stems from them, regardless of fact. Bully and threaten retribution.
3. Take a lesson from the GOP and start lying to the stupid people. The conservatives come from business so they understand how to market. Frighten. Exaggerate. Lie. Ever since Reagan this has been the core of Republican messaging, and it has gotten the derps to vote against their own interests again and again. We need to start doing that.
4. There are no consequences, period. Dump is the great inflection point of understanding the masses. The enlightenment notion that the masses have a core of moral good is wrong. The liberal notion that the masses can be educated is wrong. The Left notion that the masses can be taught to understand their class interests so they can lead is atrociously wrong. Anybody who met these people growing up should never have fallen for these hyper-intellectualized fantasies. These are barnyard animals. Stop lifting them up, it only annoys them and hurts your back.
5. Operate from strength. You never win by losing. There are no moral victories. Fight just as hard and just as dirty as the other guys.
6. Divide and conquer. The only divergence in theory between Left and Right that ever mattered was what to do with the economic losers. The Left prescribed assistance, the Right said the devil take the hindmost. Adopt both positions, and colonize both parties. Again: take walrus up on his idea. Stop being principled and start winning. The policy you argue for in the marketplace is just a method of gaining power. Once in power you can keep power from the derps; that is the only goal.
7. Divide and conquer, in the second sense. We have learned now how America dies: the electorate becomes divided based on education and intelligence, leaving the morons who will always have greater numbers to control the levers of a power they can never understand or use responsibly. We have to split the morons back between the parties, thus nullifying them at least half the time if not more.
8. Govern to benefit ourselves. Stop squandering our energy and sympathy on pigs, they don't deserve it. Craft policies that extend our power and tamp down the power of those important power centers that immediately threaten us. Protect and empower intellect; weaken and disunify stupidity whatever its political flavor.
9. Stop trying to save people who are actively destroying their own lives. Stop trying to save their children. Humans who are raised by animals realize their humanity and if they are also energetic they leave them and join us on their own terms. It is a necessary right of passage, like being the smart kid in a religious school who comes to knowledge first by rejecting the idiocy around her. That new blood will keep us from stagnating -- it will always be new energy to shake us from our lazy habits, and it will take us the places we will have become too insulated to understand.
10. For f-ck's sake, be self-confident. We are the heirs to and the origin of every good idea humanity has ever had. We are the thinkers, the artists, the scientists. While there are plenty of engineers who are animals there are still plenty among us, and we easily can tell the difference in the workplace. Advance our own. Ignore the rest. Power is tribal -- it's time we became aware of our tribe.
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Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Nah we will let them kill themselves off. Takes a while but it will eventually happen. Hell they seem to want it to happen!
bronconick
Yep, still here
They breed fast enough to keep their numbers up.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Not when they don't vaccinate or put their kids to work...
All well and good to say lie to them, promise them anything, just get elected.
Problem is, unlike with Republicans, if the Democrats don't deliver on their promises, the voters just kick them out the next time. "You never did 'nuthin' for me."
No matter how much you did, it's always, well, you promised, and then didn't do anything to help me. Look at Biden's term for just an example. Maybe the best economy we've had for forty years, but all those uninformed voters didn't feel like it was, or they'd rather listen to the guys who tell them that no, it's lousy.
Problem is, unlike with Republicans, if the Democrats don't deliver on their promises, the voters just kick them out the next time. "You never did 'nuthin' for me."
No matter how much you did, it's always, well, you promised, and then didn't do anything to help me. Look at Biden's term for just an example. Maybe the best economy we've had for forty years, but all those uninformed voters didn't feel like it was, or they'd rather listen to the guys who tell them that no, it's lousy.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Yeah the issue is that the media has always played it like the Dems are the "adults in the room" so they get blamed when things dont work. This election cycle the so called Liberal Media blamed the Dems for being both too divisive and too bipartisan! It is our fault when they break things (how could you let them do that!?!?!?) and it is our fault when we fix it but it doesn't solve 100% of the issues in record time. (are you better off now than before?)
The American Government is in a perpetual state of Moral Hazard. The GOP is allowed to do whatever they want without any long term consequences because the Dems will always clean up the mess and get the blame because we actually care about the system working. We are like parents of teenagers, always trying to make sure they don't completely screw up their lives by protecting them. Well sooner or later you need to let them go and experience the repercussions of their actions. Time to cut them off. If the Vets want to keep supporting the party that screws their benefits and openly mocks them...cool. If the Farmers want to go bankrupt again because of trade wars...awesome! If stupid old White People want to screw over SS and Medicare or the ACA while they are on it...outstanding! Hell at this point I am all for the idea of Red States opting out of anything they want to with the caveat that they also then opt out of any federal assistance. If Oklahoma wants prayer in school awesome, but the Blue States regret to inform you that you can pay for your tornado damage on your own. Florida wants to arrest journalists who speak ill of DeSantis or Trump...cool. Enjoy your hurricanes and lack of Medicare. Texas wants to arrest any woman who has a miscarriage...fine. Have fun this winter!
It is coming to the point where the Blue States are going to push back on all of this (especially California) and this country dies on the vine without us. We don't need them.
The American Government is in a perpetual state of Moral Hazard. The GOP is allowed to do whatever they want without any long term consequences because the Dems will always clean up the mess and get the blame because we actually care about the system working. We are like parents of teenagers, always trying to make sure they don't completely screw up their lives by protecting them. Well sooner or later you need to let them go and experience the repercussions of their actions. Time to cut them off. If the Vets want to keep supporting the party that screws their benefits and openly mocks them...cool. If the Farmers want to go bankrupt again because of trade wars...awesome! If stupid old White People want to screw over SS and Medicare or the ACA while they are on it...outstanding! Hell at this point I am all for the idea of Red States opting out of anything they want to with the caveat that they also then opt out of any federal assistance. If Oklahoma wants prayer in school awesome, but the Blue States regret to inform you that you can pay for your tornado damage on your own. Florida wants to arrest journalists who speak ill of DeSantis or Trump...cool. Enjoy your hurricanes and lack of Medicare. Texas wants to arrest any woman who has a miscarriage...fine. Have fun this winter!
It is coming to the point where the Blue States are going to push back on all of this (especially California) and this country dies on the vine without us. We don't need them.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Yep. The media over and over and over again has covered for them and the Dems have been right there to clean up the mess. No more.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
They couldn't afford a new F-150 at 7% interest, and Harris was gonna ban gas engines, so they voted to burn it all down.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
They couldn't afford a new F-150 at 7% interest, and Harris was gonna ban gas engines, so they voted to burn it all down.
And burn it will. Till there is nothing left.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
They couldn't afford a new F-150 at 7% interest, and Harris was gonna ban gas engines, so they voted to burn it all down.
Hey we need to elect a bigot tyrant because some 25 year old can't buy a house. If a kid can't buy a house why should a N!$$7r be allowed to have rights? If eggs are going to cost $.33 a piece then those damned C U Next Tuesdays don't deserve to be considered full citizens with rights!
FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
Can't wait until they axe Medicare, and our Boomer parents have to move in with us in their final years to afford their medical appointments and maintenance meds. Just my parents and my wife's dad though. She would be the first to say that her narcissistic stepmom can die in the street.
I'm sure it's an old expression, but new to me when I saw a meme on Facebook this week: "Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from wise men." Absolutely, 100% correct.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Can't wait until they axe Medicare, and our Boomer parents have to move in with us in their final years to afford their medical appointments and maintenance meds. Just my parents and my wife's dad though. She would be the first to say that her narcissistic stepmom can die in the street.
My parents already live in my SOs condo where their rent is controlled (by us) and I subsidize what they can't afford as the costs of maintenance, HOA fees and insurance continue to skyrocket. They are both on SS and Medicare as well. (my dad does work still but shouldnt) My father, Boomer Hippy Former Socialist voted RFK and watches Faux all day. He is in for a rude awakening if/when Trump implements even 1/4 of what he is talking about and I have already vowed not to help anymore. If my mother wasnt alive I would cut his azz off completely. It is one thing to be a pr!ck because you are old and going senile, it is another to do so while living at the behest of my generosity.
Can't wait until they axe Medicare, and our Boomer parents have to move in with us in their final years to afford their medical appointments and maintenance meds. Just my parents and my wife's dad though. She would be the first to say that her narcissistic stepmom can die in the street.
Yeah, but Gen X and the rest can't afford a house. Where are all the parents gonna live?
Gonna be like the Meskins with 17 people crammed into a three room house.