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Laker Hockey 2009-10
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MeridianStreet
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Which begs the question, "why didn't he do that at Lake State???"
Which begs the question, "why didn't he do that at Lake State???"
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Meridian. The one thing Anzalone said when he got his second chance at Lake State was how only 2 players could bench 290 pounds and he said the whole team should be benching that. I think we all have talked about conditioning and strength building and no one did that better than Anzalone it seems. Notre Dame players also said when Jackson took over, their strength building went up and how much better they became and much stronger in the third period that gave them an edge that they didn't have before.
I guess we all hope that Roque also has a good strength building program in place and the players are trying to get the most from it.
Meridian. The one thing Anzalone said when he got his second chance at Lake State was how only 2 players could bench 290 pounds and he said the whole team should be benching that. I think we all have talked about conditioning and strength building and no one did that better than Anzalone it seems. Notre Dame players also said when Jackson took over, their strength building went up and how much better they became and much stronger in the third period that gave them an edge that they didn't have before.
I guess we all hope that Roque also has a good strength building program in place and the players are trying to get the most from it.
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Up where? Do you assume I live in the Soo?
Frank did a nice job. Jeff did a nice job. The program is still reeling from Borek's tenure. The damage he did may be incalculable. When you let a high school coach run your program for years, well, it will take years to crawl out from under the rubble.
And by the time Frank returned, the college game had passed him by. He was pretty ineffectual in his second tenure.
Up where? Do you assume I live in the Soo?
Frank did a nice job. Jeff did a nice job. The program is still reeling from Borek's tenure. The damage he did may be incalculable. When you let a high school coach run your program for years, well, it will take years to crawl out from under the rubble.
And by the time Frank returned, the college game had passed him by. He was pretty ineffectual in his second tenure.
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Given the fact that NMU's program was started in 1976 and Comley coached the team until 2002, I would have to agree.
Given the fact that NMU's program was started in 1976 and Comley coached the team until 2002, I would have to agree.
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Few if any people on this forum know all the facts about Frank's dismissal five years ago, so it's pointless to say he was railroaded. That may be your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it, but short of providing explicit, incontrovertible facts supporting that position, it remains nothing more than that, you're opinion. I don't claim to know the facts. Maybe he was railroaded, maybe he wasn't. I just don't see any point making statements like that on this forum. If the facts ever come out publicly, and it may very well be that they never will, then we can judge whether he was railroaded or not.
During Franks' second stint at LSSU, he was able to re-instill some discipline and structure to the Laker program, which is something that had gone by the wayside during Scott Borek's time at LSSU. No one questions that Frank is a great coach. To say that he turned the program around his last time here is probably stretching it. He did position it for a turn around, but not enough consistent progress has been made to say it has reached that point yet.
Few if any people on this forum know all the facts about Frank's dismissal five years ago, so it's pointless to say he was railroaded. That may be your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it, but short of providing explicit, incontrovertible facts supporting that position, it remains nothing more than that, you're opinion. I don't claim to know the facts. Maybe he was railroaded, maybe he wasn't. I just don't see any point making statements like that on this forum. If the facts ever come out publicly, and it may very well be that they never will, then we can judge whether he was railroaded or not.
During Franks' second stint at LSSU, he was able to re-instill some discipline and structure to the Laker program, which is something that had gone by the wayside during Scott Borek's time at LSSU. No one questions that Frank is a great coach. To say that he turned the program around his last time here is probably stretching it. He did position it for a turn around, but not enough consistent progress has been made to say it has reached that point yet.
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
As long as the CCHA continues to schedule games right in the middle of deer season in the EUP, you're going to see small crowds. Even in the glory days it was not uncommon to have crowds of 2,500 during deer season. And add to that the fact Alaska has never been a good draw in the Soo, for whatever reason.
As long as the CCHA continues to schedule games right in the middle of deer season in the EUP, you're going to see small crowds. Even in the glory days it was not uncommon to have crowds of 2,500 during deer season. And add to that the fact Alaska has never been a good draw in the Soo, for whatever reason.
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The Laker program was on the decline two years before Jeff left. If you ever get the chance, ask Ron Rolston why he left. If you knew Scott Borek's background, he was known as one of the premiere recruiters when he and Brian McCloskey built up Brown University and he did a good job at Colby College in DIII before coming to the Soo. Calling him a HS coach just shows your lack of knowledge or weak attempt to distort the truth. I'll give ou that he didn't gey the job done with the Lakers.
The Laker program was on the decline two years before Jeff left. If you ever get the chance, ask Ron Rolston why he left. If you knew Scott Borek's background, he was known as one of the premiere recruiters when he and Brian McCloskey built up Brown University and he did a good job at Colby College in DIII before coming to the Soo. Calling him a HS coach just shows your lack of knowledge or weak attempt to distort the truth. I'll give ou that he didn't gey the job done with the Lakers.
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true story
One week after it was announced that Anzalone was coming back I talked to a Bowling Green hockey player only because I was wearing a Lake State t-shirt and he came up to me and made a comment on college hockey. We got to talking Anzalone and this Bowling Green player said straight up. Coach Anzalone is coming back to a team with almost zero talent but and this is where he said things will be different. Anzalone will put out on the ice a strong conditioned team with total discipline and the player told me that is something that the Lake State team has been lacking for a few years now.Borek seems like one hell of a nice guy and a good guy ,but I don"t think the program worked for him there.
true story
One week after it was announced that Anzalone was coming back I talked to a Bowling Green hockey player only because I was wearing a Lake State t-shirt and he came up to me and made a comment on college hockey. We got to talking Anzalone and this Bowling Green player said straight up. Coach Anzalone is coming back to a team with almost zero talent but and this is where he said things will be different. Anzalone will put out on the ice a strong conditioned team with total discipline and the player told me that is something that the Lake State team has been lacking for a few years now.Borek seems like one hell of a nice guy and a good guy ,but I don"t think the program worked for him there.
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While this is true, I hunted hard all week, hung one on the buck pole and still managed to drag myself out of the bush and in to town for both games on the weekend. I do every year, but perhaps it's just a "simple minded, redneck tradition of mine". But originally being from the EUP and all, I guess I just can't help myself, acording to squidword there...
Thoughts from the weekend: First, it was great to get Haines back in the lineup and he played a very solid game, I thought.
Great to see Nehring continue to roll. He plays hard every shift and is earning the results he's getting.
The Jeckyll & Hyde showings at both ends of the ice are really trying on a fan's emotions. They had every chance to sweep & bury their opponents both nights but didn't put them away. Offence and defence both played great at times and other times they had some big letdowns.
I think Scrymgeour is cursed with the Sim/Schwab disease of not being able to put a puck in an open goal. Get it together, man!
Barczuk is fun to watch and the more you watch him the more you like him. He's got some good talent, great hands and good vision on the ice. He hits, forechecks, backchecks, skates well and is crafty with the puck. Now if he can just quit taking some bad penalties he'd really elevate his game further.
While this is true, I hunted hard all week, hung one on the buck pole and still managed to drag myself out of the bush and in to town for both games on the weekend. I do every year, but perhaps it's just a "simple minded, redneck tradition of mine". But originally being from the EUP and all, I guess I just can't help myself, acording to squidword there...
Thoughts from the weekend: First, it was great to get Haines back in the lineup and he played a very solid game, I thought.
Great to see Nehring continue to roll. He plays hard every shift and is earning the results he's getting.
The Jeckyll & Hyde showings at both ends of the ice are really trying on a fan's emotions. They had every chance to sweep & bury their opponents both nights but didn't put them away. Offence and defence both played great at times and other times they had some big letdowns.
I think Scrymgeour is cursed with the Sim/Schwab disease of not being able to put a puck in an open goal. Get it together, man!
Barczuk is fun to watch and the more you watch him the more you like him. He's got some good talent, great hands and good vision on the ice. He hits, forechecks, backchecks, skates well and is crafty with the puck. Now if he can just quit taking some bad penalties he'd really elevate his game further.
DopeyBaker
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
It looks like the Quad City Mallards have lost 10 of their last 11 games.
http://www.myqcmallards.com/schedule/list
It looks like the Quad City Mallards have lost 10 of their last 11 games.
http://www.myqcmallards.com/schedule/list
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
What has Borek accomplished in college hockey, ever? Besides a massive recruiting violation?
What has Borek accomplished in college hockey, ever? Besides a massive recruiting violation?
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Mrs. Anzalone, Francis will never be the play-by-play guy for the Lakers, ever.
They don't want him.
The End.
Mrs. Anzalone, Francis will never be the play-by-play guy for the Lakers, ever.
They don't want him.
The End.
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Truth Squid, Frank Anzalone is hardly a coaching legend. He had a very good tenure when at LSSU the first time. It was absolutely the right thing to do when they got rid of him the second time. The college game passed him by. He could not relate to the players. His old time hockey style does not translate well into today's game.
Frank is much like Scotty Bowman in that regard. While Scotty is a legend, perhaps the best NHL coach ever, nevertheless he became neutered, so to speak, when the 'new' NHL came about after the lockout in 2004. Just look at some of the messes the Blackhawks management has gotten into in the last year. If you don't think a lot of that is connected to the fact Scotty is making a lot of decisions behind the scenes then you are a Bowman apologist.
In much the same way the game has changed at all levels, and people like Frank Anzalone are having a difficult time adjusting. Player reps, family lawyers, etc, are all part of the new hockey. Frank did not understand nor relate to this new hockey well.
And let's not forget Frank Anzalone was a terrible PR person. I'm sorry, but if you're the coach of the premiere attraction in a small community, you better have people skills. Frank's people skills are practically non-existent. The town soon grew tired of his shtick and crappy attitude.
Was he a good coach? Absolutely. Are his lack of people skills a reason he's peaked as a coach? Absolutely.
Truth Squid, Frank Anzalone is hardly a coaching legend. He had a very good tenure when at LSSU the first time. It was absolutely the right thing to do when they got rid of him the second time. The college game passed him by. He could not relate to the players. His old time hockey style does not translate well into today's game.
Frank is much like Scotty Bowman in that regard. While Scotty is a legend, perhaps the best NHL coach ever, nevertheless he became neutered, so to speak, when the 'new' NHL came about after the lockout in 2004. Just look at some of the messes the Blackhawks management has gotten into in the last year. If you don't think a lot of that is connected to the fact Scotty is making a lot of decisions behind the scenes then you are a Bowman apologist.
In much the same way the game has changed at all levels, and people like Frank Anzalone are having a difficult time adjusting. Player reps, family lawyers, etc, are all part of the new hockey. Frank did not understand nor relate to this new hockey well.
And let's not forget Frank Anzalone was a terrible PR person. I'm sorry, but if you're the coach of the premiere attraction in a small community, you better have people skills. Frank's people skills are practically non-existent. The town soon grew tired of his shtick and crappy attitude.
Was he a good coach? Absolutely. Are his lack of people skills a reason he's peaked as a coach? Absolutely.
Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
I believe when Borek left Lake State he took over New England College and they under-achieved his year there as head coach.
I believe when Borek left Lake State he took over New England College and they under-achieved his year there as head coach.
PerkyforPrez
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
Happy Thanksgiving Laker fans.
Happy Thanksgiving Laker fans.
Neil Diamond
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Re: Laker Hockey 2009-10
The only vested interests here are from you, concerning Frank and Francis Anzalone. At one time you used three initials to end every post, and those initials were the very initials of Frank Anzalone's wife.
Coincidence?
Perhaps.
But let those of us that still enjoy Laker hockey do so without the sour grapes you bring here almost every time you post. Every Laker fan thanks Frank Anzalone for what he did while at LSSU. But we shouldn't have to be berated with talk about how unfairly he and his family was treated. Get over it, and good luck with the new team.
This board is very fair when it comes to discussions about the team. There has never been a dearth of criticism when it is needed. No one here is a Coach Roque cheerleader or character assassin. We want any coach of the team to do well. We will also call for the head of any coach we feel is a detriment to the program. The program is bigger than any one individual or groups.
The Lakers have been on tough times as of late. But that only reinforces our passion for this team. Those that have jumped off the Laker bandwagon in the last decade were never true fans to begin with.
And so we follow the team, through good and bad. We criticize and we applaud. But what we don't do is suffer people like you lightly. The past is past. Move on.
The only vested interests here are from you, concerning Frank and Francis Anzalone. At one time you used three initials to end every post, and those initials were the very initials of Frank Anzalone's wife.
Coincidence?
Perhaps.
But let those of us that still enjoy Laker hockey do so without the sour grapes you bring here almost every time you post. Every Laker fan thanks Frank Anzalone for what he did while at LSSU. But we shouldn't have to be berated with talk about how unfairly he and his family was treated. Get over it, and good luck with the new team.
This board is very fair when it comes to discussions about the team. There has never been a dearth of criticism when it is needed. No one here is a Coach Roque cheerleader or character assassin. We want any coach of the team to do well. We will also call for the head of any coach we feel is a detriment to the program. The program is bigger than any one individual or groups.
The Lakers have been on tough times as of late. But that only reinforces our passion for this team. Those that have jumped off the Laker bandwagon in the last decade were never true fans to begin with.
And so we follow the team, through good and bad. We criticize and we applaud. But what we don't do is suffer people like you lightly. The past is past. Move on.
Anchorsaweigh!
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Fairweather fans...
Fairweather fans...
Re: The Lakers have been on tough times as of late. But that only reinforces our passion for this team. Those that have jumped off the Laker bandwagon in the last decade were never true fans to begin with.
And so we follow the team, through good and bad. We criticize and we applaud. But what we don't do is suffer people like you lightly. The past is past. Move on.[/QUOTE]
Well said! Go Lakers! Hope we have a great RPI tourney. There is a lot to like about the future of Laker hockey. I am also a Red Wings fan and a Colts fan. I was a Colts fan when they were 1-15 and I am now that they are 10-0. I was a Wings fan when they won night after night and I am now that they struggle to make it to the locker room from the plane some nights (just playing around) Don't be a fair weather fan. Jump on or jump off and let the rest us us support and enjoy our teams in good times and tough ones.
Fairweather fans...
Re: The Lakers have been on tough times as of late. But that only reinforces our passion for this team. Those that have jumped off the Laker bandwagon in the last decade were never true fans to begin with.
And so we follow the team, through good and bad. We criticize and we applaud. But what we don't do is suffer people like you lightly. The past is past. Move on.[/QUOTE]
Well said! Go Lakers! Hope we have a great RPI tourney. There is a lot to like about the future of Laker hockey. I am also a Red Wings fan and a Colts fan. I was a Colts fan when they were 1-15 and I am now that they are 10-0. I was a Wings fan when they won night after night and I am now that they struggle to make it to the locker room from the plane some nights (just playing around) Don't be a fair weather fan. Jump on or jump off and let the rest us us support and enjoy our teams in good times and tough ones.
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