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Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
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Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Do you really think any of these players are not working hard.
Everyone see's the game differently. I'll stick with Coach Jackson's press conference for a breakdown on player and game performance.
Do you really think any of these players are not working hard.
Everyone see's the game differently. I'll stick with Coach Jackson's press conference for a breakdown on player and game performance.IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
NDGolden, how about brushing up on your reading comprehension skills there, chief. I'm guessing the OP believes both the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone have spectacular vistas, but tonight the four players mentioned in particular stood out. I'm not sure if it was JJfPs intention, but I notice a player from each class mentioned there. Seems to be spreading the praise to all corners.
I don't know how all the others feel, but to me this forum is not intended to be a mindless lovefest for anyone's favorite program. If it was for Irish hockey I'd have bailed a decade ago, since before Jackson arrived there was little to hang our hats on as far as Irish hockey was concerned. That's what makes the USCHO forum interesting to most of us. If the team lays down a little bit (all teams occasionally do) you might see someone here complain about it. On any given night two seasons ago there were a number of players dogging it. You think Coach Jackson only realized that 2 weeks after the season ended, the first time he made a public comment about a number of players performing with a sense of entitlement? I watched, painfully up close and personally the 2004-05 season. Irish hockey players quit competing on that team in the season's second half. Flat out quit. If you're the kind who feels no one is supposed to express an opinion like that, why read or post on a message board? Just stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself Irish hockey rules. I'll take the opinions of the ND fans on this board to the bank. JJfP and her "posse" (as she usually refers to them) and Craig P, to name a few, know as much about the college game as likely any fan you'll run into. And don't even try to use the argument that fans can't possibly know what they're talking about because we're not coaches. I'll put my knowledge of this sport up against anyone I have ever met. And for the record, I think Riley Sheahan WAS just about the best player last night. That takes nothing away from the other 19 ND players who saw the ice (or the 20 RPI players for that matter), but someone has to be the best player in any given game.
You want to wait for Coach Jackson to speak, that's certainly your prerogative, but believe it or not, there can be plenty of insight on this forum on Notre Dame and the rest of college hockey.
By the way, Anders Lee was so hot last night, he set off the fire alarms. And if its up to me to bring the (obvious) humor, we're in trouble. I am not a funny person.
NDGolden, how about brushing up on your reading comprehension skills there, chief. I'm guessing the OP believes both the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone have spectacular vistas, but tonight the four players mentioned in particular stood out. I'm not sure if it was JJfPs intention, but I notice a player from each class mentioned there. Seems to be spreading the praise to all corners.
I don't know how all the others feel, but to me this forum is not intended to be a mindless lovefest for anyone's favorite program. If it was for Irish hockey I'd have bailed a decade ago, since before Jackson arrived there was little to hang our hats on as far as Irish hockey was concerned. That's what makes the USCHO forum interesting to most of us. If the team lays down a little bit (all teams occasionally do) you might see someone here complain about it. On any given night two seasons ago there were a number of players dogging it. You think Coach Jackson only realized that 2 weeks after the season ended, the first time he made a public comment about a number of players performing with a sense of entitlement? I watched, painfully up close and personally the 2004-05 season. Irish hockey players quit competing on that team in the season's second half. Flat out quit. If you're the kind who feels no one is supposed to express an opinion like that, why read or post on a message board? Just stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself Irish hockey rules. I'll take the opinions of the ND fans on this board to the bank. JJfP and her "posse" (as she usually refers to them) and Craig P, to name a few, know as much about the college game as likely any fan you'll run into. And don't even try to use the argument that fans can't possibly know what they're talking about because we're not coaches. I'll put my knowledge of this sport up against anyone I have ever met. And for the record, I think Riley Sheahan WAS just about the best player last night. That takes nothing away from the other 19 ND players who saw the ice (or the 20 RPI players for that matter), but someone has to be the best player in any given game.
You want to wait for Coach Jackson to speak, that's certainly your prerogative, but believe it or not, there can be plenty of insight on this forum on Notre Dame and the rest of college hockey.
By the way, Anders Lee was so hot last night, he set off the fire alarms. And if its up to me to bring the (obvious) humor, we're in trouble. I am not a funny person.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
{sigh} Dude. Really?!
Thanks, IHF. And your humor brought quite the chuckle from my end.
Do you really think any of these players are not working hard.
{sigh} Dude. Really?!
Thanks, IHF. And your humor brought quite the chuckle from my end.
SwedishJustice22
Mario Lucia for Pope
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
I do not post much obviously. I am more of a spectator than commentator, but I trust the views and opinions on JJFP and IHF along with all the others more than most of the college media combined. We all talk to the players when we can, but I want to hear what my fellow fans thing about this. Not some newspaper boob that might be phoning in a paycheck or some other source that has spent three minutes with this team in the past five years. Sure Coach Jackson knows more about this than anything but us as fans like to go farther than he would/could comment on and the regulars here do a great job breaking it down and telling it how they see it which the point of a forum, plain and simple. Thanks guys for giving me something to read when Im down to pick me up and something to lift me up higher when Im already soaring (so poetic right). Keep up the good work
I do not post much obviously. I am more of a spectator than commentator, but I trust the views and opinions on JJFP and IHF along with all the others more than most of the college media combined. We all talk to the players when we can, but I want to hear what my fellow fans thing about this. Not some newspaper boob that might be phoning in a paycheck or some other source that has spent three minutes with this team in the past five years. Sure Coach Jackson knows more about this than anything but us as fans like to go farther than he would/could comment on and the regulars here do a great job breaking it down and telling it how they see it which the point of a forum, plain and simple. Thanks guys for giving me something to read when Im down to pick me up and something to lift me up higher when Im already soaring (so poetic right). Keep up the good work
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
So much for a open forum to express opinions or disagree with another view point. Perhaps this is why so few post on ND hockey in USCHO or NDnation. The arrogance is staggering. Many readers of these forums never post, but have followed their team or sport for years. For those who decide to post endlessly it does not necessarily give them a greater knowledge base or insight to the subject. It is clear this is your canvas and the rest of us should leave our paintbrushes at home. I am now chuckling too.
The "Dude"
So much for a open forum to express opinions or disagree with another view point. Perhaps this is why so few post on ND hockey in USCHO or NDnation. The arrogance is staggering. Many readers of these forums never post, but have followed their team or sport for years. For those who decide to post endlessly it does not necessarily give them a greater knowledge base or insight to the subject. It is clear this is your canvas and the rest of us should leave our paintbrushes at home. I am now chuckling too.
The "Dude"
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
I believe you are misinterpreting the point I was making. Anyone is welcome to post anything they want to post. Disagree with a point of view all you want. But your post didn't simply state a disagreement with JJfPs view on who played hardest, it seemed to imply that posters on a message board don't have the ability to offer views like that. Maybe you felt everyone played equally hard and equally well. Fine. If that's the case, lobby the university to do away with the silly "3 stars of the game" announcement following each contest, because calling Anders Lee the number 1 star of the game is a slight to the other 20 players who were dressed. Especially so since I think Sheahan was the best player on the ice all night.
I just think that if you are looking for this to be a "rah rah" sort of place, you will be disappointed. And if you think we're bad here, wait for Minnesota to lose two or three games in a row. Or go follow the treads of some of the Hockey East teams we will soon be competing against regularly. I've seen posts in support of Don Lucia that have been followed by so much vitriol the board ops probably has a hard time keeping up with what posts to delete and who to suspend.
As for the number of posters on this or any other forum, there is no rhyme or reason as to how many posters a team has. In all the years I've posted on and followed USCHO, I've noticed some teams seem to have a disproportionally large or small number of regular posters, if you base that only on the relative history or success of the team. Michigan State has never approached the activity here that one would have expected, especially with their consistent excellence up until a couple of years ago and the sheer number of students and alums the school has. Some teams who have been awful for years or who have not been Division 1 for long routinely will close out two and three threads per season. MTU and RIT are wonderful examples of that. Some teams have literally hundreds of posters who claim allegiance to that team. Others have but one or two. For the first 5 or 6 years of the existence of this forum there were just 2 Notre Dame fans and it had little do do with what either of us posted. Even the first run to the NCAAs in 2004 didn't increase that number immediately.
Regarding NDNation, I don't know much about the culture there because I don't post there. I do know that up until a couple of years ago they didn't have a forum dedicated to Notre Dame hockey, and most of the activity there is logically centered around Notre Dame football. I do know that as a "Notre Dame" site, most of the posting there seems to be pretty well supportive of Notre Dame and much less likely to be critical of the hockey team, so I have no idea why you'd have any sort of a problem with it.
So much for a open forum to express opinions or disagree with another view point. Perhaps this is why so few post on ND hockey in USCHO or NDnation. The arrogance is staggering. Many readers of these forums never post, but have followed their team or sport for years. For those who decide to post endlessly it does not necessarily give them a greater knowledge base or insight to the subject. It is clear this is your canvas and the rest of us should leave our paintbrushes at home. I am now chuckling too.
The "Dude"
I believe you are misinterpreting the point I was making. Anyone is welcome to post anything they want to post. Disagree with a point of view all you want. But your post didn't simply state a disagreement with JJfPs view on who played hardest, it seemed to imply that posters on a message board don't have the ability to offer views like that. Maybe you felt everyone played equally hard and equally well. Fine. If that's the case, lobby the university to do away with the silly "3 stars of the game" announcement following each contest, because calling Anders Lee the number 1 star of the game is a slight to the other 20 players who were dressed. Especially so since I think Sheahan was the best player on the ice all night.
I just think that if you are looking for this to be a "rah rah" sort of place, you will be disappointed. And if you think we're bad here, wait for Minnesota to lose two or three games in a row. Or go follow the treads of some of the Hockey East teams we will soon be competing against regularly. I've seen posts in support of Don Lucia that have been followed by so much vitriol the board ops probably has a hard time keeping up with what posts to delete and who to suspend.
As for the number of posters on this or any other forum, there is no rhyme or reason as to how many posters a team has. In all the years I've posted on and followed USCHO, I've noticed some teams seem to have a disproportionally large or small number of regular posters, if you base that only on the relative history or success of the team. Michigan State has never approached the activity here that one would have expected, especially with their consistent excellence up until a couple of years ago and the sheer number of students and alums the school has. Some teams who have been awful for years or who have not been Division 1 for long routinely will close out two and three threads per season. MTU and RIT are wonderful examples of that. Some teams have literally hundreds of posters who claim allegiance to that team. Others have but one or two. For the first 5 or 6 years of the existence of this forum there were just 2 Notre Dame fans and it had little do do with what either of us posted. Even the first run to the NCAAs in 2004 didn't increase that number immediately.
Regarding NDNation, I don't know much about the culture there because I don't post there. I do know that up until a couple of years ago they didn't have a forum dedicated to Notre Dame hockey, and most of the activity there is logically centered around Notre Dame football. I do know that as a "Notre Dame" site, most of the posting there seems to be pretty well supportive of Notre Dame and much less likely to be critical of the hockey team, so I have no idea why you'd have any sort of a problem with it.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
You implied from your response to my post that I did not think other ND players worked hard. Hence, my response and the response from IHF to brush up on your reading comprehension (or visit our national parks, whichever). My statement was akin to saying Sidney Crosby is the best hockey player going, aside from Alexander Ovechkin. Get it?
If I happened to have stated that I didn't think Riley Sheahan worked hard Friday, and you wanted to take issue with that, you'd have a skate to stand on (although that would simply be my opinion).
What I can't stand is when posters don't get the obvious point of a statement, assume the worst and jump all over someone for their own misunderstanding. I guarantee, I see this game better than most.
So much for a open forum to express opinions or disagree with another view point. Perhaps this is why so few post on ND hockey in USCHO or NDnation. The arrogance is staggering. Many readers of these forums never post, but have followed their team or sport for years. For those who decide to post endlessly it does not necessarily give them a greater knowledge base or insight to the subject. It is clear this is your canvas and the rest of us should leave our paintbrushes at home. I am now chuckling too.
The "Dude"
You implied from your response to my post that I did not think other ND players worked hard. Hence, my response and the response from IHF to brush up on your reading comprehension (or visit our national parks, whichever). My statement was akin to saying Sidney Crosby is the best hockey player going, aside from Alexander Ovechkin. Get it?
If I happened to have stated that I didn't think Riley Sheahan worked hard Friday, and you wanted to take issue with that, you'd have a skate to stand on (although that would simply be my opinion).
What I can't stand is when posters don't get the obvious point of a statement, assume the worst and jump all over someone for their own misunderstanding. I guarantee, I see this game better than most.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
NDGolden = NDHockeytalk???
NDGolden = NDHockeytalk???
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Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Boy, for a Notre Dame follower, reading comprehension sure seems to be a class you missed along the way. At no point in JJfP's original post did she say anyone was dogging it or played below par. It was a post that only specifically spoke of how WELL a number of players did that evening. You were the one who read more into the post than what was said. Play nice or go home.
So much for a open forum to express opinions or disagree with another view point. Perhaps this is why so few post on ND hockey in USCHO or NDnation. The arrogance is staggering. Many readers of these forums never post, but have followed their team or sport for years. For those who decide to post endlessly it does not necessarily give them a greater knowledge base or insight to the subject. It is clear this is your canvas and the rest of us should leave our paintbrushes at home. I am now chuckling too.
The "Dude"
Boy, for a Notre Dame follower, reading comprehension sure seems to be a class you missed along the way. At no point in JJfP's original post did she say anyone was dogging it or played below par. It was a post that only specifically spoke of how WELL a number of players did that evening. You were the one who read more into the post than what was said. Play nice or go home.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
First a few "homer" gripes: Paula Weston completely forgot about ND in her poll pick for this week, yet managed to vote BU in the top 10 even though they have lost to both PC and HC (no offense towards those 2 victors). I know, I know, polls mean squat until the 2nd week of April...
Is it just me, or does anyone else read the CCHA quick team summaries of past weekend games and think ND frequently gets the short end of the kudos stick? Hello? Anders Lee with the hattrick?
And what is with ND's own site not having any video or pics of opening night? While there are pics on ND's facebook page, I would think their own university-run site could manage something.
My posse and I are heading the our first road game of the season this Friday. For the second weekend in a row, ND faces a goalie (Andrew Hammond 4-1-1) with stellar numbers (1.48 GA and .937 save %), and while BG isn't scoring much as a team (2.17 GF), their defense is certainly up to the task (1.67 GA).
ND is managing a powerful 4.2 GF, but they are giving up a scary 3.0 GA. Mike Johnson is 2-1-0 with a GA of 2.33 and a save % of .896. Neither is a number I am comfortable with because that means the offense has to be super and nearly mistake-free.
BG is a very young team. In fact, 9 of their top 10 scorers are underclassmen. They are led by sophomore Cam Wojtala with 7 points (2 of which are PPG's). Freshmen Ryan Carpenter (their leading G scorer with 3), Dan DeSalvo and Marcus Perrier are next with 6, 5 and 3 points, respectively.
Contrast that with ND's top 10 scorers, only 4 of whom are underclassmen. ND is led by Lee (ND's leading G scorer with 8) and T.J. Tynan, each with 11 points. Riley Sheahan, Billy Maday and Sam Calabrese each have 5 points. Austin Wuthrich and Sean Lorenz each have 4 and Stephen Johns has 3 points.
BG's PP is average at 14.3% while their PK works 86.5% of the time. That puts their special teams' score at 100.8. That works.
ND's PP improved to 18.5% while their PK sits at 81.5%, giving them a special teams' score of 100. Finally. What I wouldn't give to see that number jump to about 108 this weekend.
Success does not come to you. You must go to it.
First a few "homer" gripes: Paula Weston completely forgot about ND in her poll pick for this week, yet managed to vote BU in the top 10 even though they have lost to both PC and HC (no offense towards those 2 victors). I know, I know, polls mean squat until the 2nd week of April...
Is it just me, or does anyone else read the CCHA quick team summaries of past weekend games and think ND frequently gets the short end of the kudos stick? Hello? Anders Lee with the hattrick?
And what is with ND's own site not having any video or pics of opening night? While there are pics on ND's facebook page, I would think their own university-run site could manage something.
My posse and I are heading the our first road game of the season this Friday. For the second weekend in a row, ND faces a goalie (Andrew Hammond 4-1-1) with stellar numbers (1.48 GA and .937 save %), and while BG isn't scoring much as a team (2.17 GF), their defense is certainly up to the task (1.67 GA).
ND is managing a powerful 4.2 GF, but they are giving up a scary 3.0 GA. Mike Johnson is 2-1-0 with a GA of 2.33 and a save % of .896. Neither is a number I am comfortable with because that means the offense has to be super and nearly mistake-free.
BG is a very young team. In fact, 9 of their top 10 scorers are underclassmen. They are led by sophomore Cam Wojtala with 7 points (2 of which are PPG's). Freshmen Ryan Carpenter (their leading G scorer with 3), Dan DeSalvo and Marcus Perrier are next with 6, 5 and 3 points, respectively.
Contrast that with ND's top 10 scorers, only 4 of whom are underclassmen. ND is led by Lee (ND's leading G scorer with 8) and T.J. Tynan, each with 11 points. Riley Sheahan, Billy Maday and Sam Calabrese each have 5 points. Austin Wuthrich and Sean Lorenz each have 4 and Stephen Johns has 3 points.
BG's PP is average at 14.3% while their PK works 86.5% of the time. That puts their special teams' score at 100.8. That works.
ND's PP improved to 18.5% while their PK sits at 81.5%, giving them a special teams' score of 100. Finally. What I wouldn't give to see that number jump to about 108 this weekend.
Success does not come to you. You must go to it.
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
That was pointed out to Weston and she admitted that it was simply an oversight. Too busy shining the spotlight on the Big Ten portion of the CCHA as always I guess to remember she still considers Notre Dame to be a top 10 team, or that the start Ferris has had is as good a story there is going into this weekend.
I think the CCHA news and notes actually come from each schools SID. Each is probably asked to submit a sentence or two summarizing the weekend with a relevant note.
That was pointed out to Weston and she admitted that it was simply an oversight. Too busy shining the spotlight on the Big Ten portion of the CCHA as always I guess to remember she still considers Notre Dame to be a top 10 team, or that the start Ferris has had is as good a story there is going into this weekend.
I think the CCHA news and notes actually come from each schools SID. Each is probably asked to submit a sentence or two summarizing the weekend with a relevant note.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Then ND needs to quit having someone from the football program submit the info.
Who cares about the size of the crowd compared to 4 decades ago? With his hat trick, Anders Lee now leads the country in GPG's and in G's scored. Granted, that will be a whole lot more impressive if I can still type that in March...
Then ND needs to quit having someone from the football program submit the info.
Who cares about the size of the crowd compared to 4 decades ago? With his hat trick, Anders Lee now leads the country in GPG's and in G's scored. Granted, that will be a whole lot more impressive if I can still type that in March...
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Just got back from BG. Nice victory. 2 PPG's. No PPG's against. Robbie Russo with his first. Pretty solid passing, shot blocking and forechecking. Mike Johnson made some nice saves to round out the play on the ice. And my posse got Kris Draper free parking for the game (although I think the parking lot attendant at BG did not know who he was...) Nice that Riley Sheahan had another hard-working game to show for his future employer. Man, have we met a LOT of Wings personnel while attending ND games-home and away! BG under Chris Bergeron is definitely harder to play against. They clog up the neutral zone and backcheck pretty well. I sure would like a sweep tomorrow. Pretty please.
Just got back from BG. Nice victory. 2 PPG's. No PPG's against. Robbie Russo with his first. Pretty solid passing, shot blocking and forechecking. Mike Johnson made some nice saves to round out the play on the ice. And my posse got Kris Draper free parking for the game (although I think the parking lot attendant at BG did not know who he was...) Nice that Riley Sheahan had another hard-working game to show for his future employer. Man, have we met a LOT of Wings personnel while attending ND games-home and away! BG under Chris Bergeron is definitely harder to play against. They clog up the neutral zone and backcheck pretty well. I sure would like a sweep tomorrow. Pretty please.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
This sweep on the road makes up for the split at home against OSU. ND finished the weekend going 33.3% on the PP and 100% on the PK (killing 8 penalties, including a short 5 X 3 last night). 9 players registered points, made up of 3 from T.J. Tynan, 2 each from Anders Lee, Peter Schneider, Riley Sheahan and Patrick Gaul (including the GWG tonight), and single points from Garrett Peterson, Robbie Russo and Austin Wuthrich. Mike Johnson came up big a few times in both 3rd periods to help the effort. All in all, not a stinker in the place.
Thank you.
With this weekend's play, ND's special teams improved to 107.9. Close enough. Again, thank you.me said:
This sweep on the road makes up for the split at home against OSU. ND finished the weekend going 33.3% on the PP and 100% on the PK (killing 8 penalties, including a short 5 X 3 last night). 9 players registered points, made up of 3 from T.J. Tynan, 2 each from Anders Lee, Peter Schneider, Riley Sheahan and Patrick Gaul (including the GWG tonight), and single points from Garrett Peterson, Robbie Russo and Austin Wuthrich. Mike Johnson came up big a few times in both 3rd periods to help the effort. All in all, not a stinker in the place.
SwedishJustice22
Mario Lucia for Pope
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
I would go ahead and give this number a call: 574-631-7356. Thats the ticket office. I believe you can purchase standing room only seats before the actually day of game. I could be wrong but thats what Ive been told
I would go ahead and give this number a call: 574-631-7356. Thats the ticket office. I believe you can purchase standing room only seats before the actually day of game. I could be wrong but thats what Ive been told
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Ryan Thang got the call. He may start tonight against the Hawks. Good luck to him.
Ryan Thang got the call. He may start tonight against the Hawks. Good luck to him.
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
As a Wings fan I must ask: why doesn't Sheahan score more than he does?
As a Wings fan I must ask: why doesn't Sheahan score more than he does?
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton
Any number of reasons and are we talking goal scoring or overall scoring as well? He moves well without the puck and has great hockey sense so I've wondered from time to time about the goal totals, but his overall game is fairly complete and the Wings love players like that.
Jackson rolls 4 lines out there regularly, and all 4 lines will average similar TOI over the course of 5-5 play during an average game. I see a lot of college teams that don't do that. He's been a play maker as well, and not as much a finisher. I think a lot of people have expected more goals out of him, but his point totals have been fairly productive. He's also moved up the ND scoring charts over the course of his 2-plus seasons. 10th as a frosh, 7th last season and currently 4th on the team despite missing the opening weekend.
Sheahan also pays attention defensively and is one of the best penalty killers in the CCHA. Jackson has also not been hesitant to have him center any two forwards on the team during his career, other than Lee. He only regularly skated with Lee last season during the NCAAs and responded with 2 points and a plus-three in the three games. Jackson made mention a couple of times last season he'd like to see him a little more involved offensively and I think that will happen this season, but he has been superb defensively still so far this year.
Any number of reasons and are we talking goal scoring or overall scoring as well? He moves well without the puck and has great hockey sense so I've wondered from time to time about the goal totals, but his overall game is fairly complete and the Wings love players like that.
Jackson rolls 4 lines out there regularly, and all 4 lines will average similar TOI over the course of 5-5 play during an average game. I see a lot of college teams that don't do that. He's been a play maker as well, and not as much a finisher. I think a lot of people have expected more goals out of him, but his point totals have been fairly productive. He's also moved up the ND scoring charts over the course of his 2-plus seasons. 10th as a frosh, 7th last season and currently 4th on the team despite missing the opening weekend.
Sheahan also pays attention defensively and is one of the best penalty killers in the CCHA. Jackson has also not been hesitant to have him center any two forwards on the team during his career, other than Lee. He only regularly skated with Lee last season during the NCAAs and responded with 2 points and a plus-three in the three games. Jackson made mention a couple of times last season he'd like to see him a little more involved offensively and I think that will happen this season, but he has been superb defensively still so far this year.