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Irish Hockey: Straight Inta Compton

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We will be going with our regular half dozen, but getting the tickets through the ticket office is always a pain and they are usually terrible tickets. The second game vs. Michigan was where things started to go south when Riley Sheahan was sat by the league for his illegal hit to the chest the previous weekend. I think we have seen the team respond well to the stability at the goalie position and don't seem to be gripping the stick quite so tight. Anders Lee seems to be getting his confidence back. He was getting pushed around in Big Rapids a month ago and the last two weeks is using that size and power we saw early in the season. This weekend is going to come down to the dirty goals. Hunwick saves most everything thrown his way and his D-men seem to always be there to clear the rebounds and he does give up rebounds (952 saves second most in CCHA). Look for goals to come from guys like Costello, Gerths, Nugent, and Wuthrich. The Irish always seem to play to the level of their opponent so I would guess we are in for a three game weekend.
 
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Look for goals to come from guys like... Gerths, Nugent ...
Wow. The skeptic in me says, "You want two guys who don't have one goal between them to score against this team?!"

The optimist in me says, "I like the way you think."

But who am I kidding? There is no optimist in me.

So far I know of 12 (not including parents) counting your group who will be rooting for the Blue and Gold in person.
 
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We are going tonight with about 30 ND Fans... Go Irish....


Wow. The skeptic in me says, "You want two guys who don't have one goal between them to score against this team?!"

The optimist in me says, "I like the way you think."

But who am I kidding? There is no optimist in me.

So far I know of 12 (not including parents) counting your group who will be rooting for the Blue and Gold in person.
 
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It's been a few hours, so now I can add to this.

With the exception of the final score, I thoroughly enjoyed last night's game. After giving up a fluky goal a minute in, Summerhays proved that he is the #1 guy. He was completely composed, made some really solid saves and kept defensive lapses out of the back of the net. His save % on the night was .952. He had 83:09 of scoreless playoff hockey against the 10th most potent offense in the nation.

Looking at the skaters, remember that they had a short bench due to a prior injury and because of 2 hits in the game left the team without Billy Maday for several shifts and Austin Wuthrich for 3/4 of the game. The lines had to be juggled from the first intermission on and Anders Lee was double-shifted, but still managed to score late to send the game to OT and almost won it in the first OT were it not for another freakin' post.

ND killed off all 4 Michigan PP's, including one in OT.

Both teams were surprisingly sloppy in all 3 zones and both sides missed glorious opportunities to win it throughout the night.

Tonight's and Sunday's games are on t.v. I'm going to go out on a very long, very thin, dry, brittle limb and admit that I have a good feeling about things.
 
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Wow. Nobody has anything to say? Nobody wants to play "Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda?" Nobody wants to comment on the lack of physicality from ND this weekend? Nobody wants to muse about the odd fact that Michigan looked like the team fighting for its playoff life last night while ND mailed it in? Nobody wants to ask the players if that 2OT loss was so demoralizing that they just couldn't muster up the effort to climb that mountain? Nobody wants to comment on this season's disappointment being solely on the shoulders of Jeff Jackson? Nobody wants to rip the silver spoons (or pacifiers) out of the mouths of the players and yell, "Hey! You have fans who have been waiting 35 years for this team! You have fans who follow (or want to follow) you to the ends of the earth. What's with the lackluster efforts? Were my expectations too high? 'Cause I gotta tell ya--they ain't goin' lower."

I expect my team to beat weaker opponents. I expect my team to make home ice an actual advantage. I expect my team to be on the right side of the +/-. I expect my team to average more goals for than they give up. I expect Anders Lee to score at least a goal every 2 games. I expect Steven Summerhays to rip the starting position from anyone who wants to deny it of him. I expect Nick Larson to play hard and levelheaded. I expect David Gerths to score. At least once! I expect the captains (and the rest of the team, for that matter) to hold each teammate accountable. I expect a sense of urgency. All. The. Time. I expect a first round bye. I expect a trip to the Joe. I expect to buy plane tickets, take time off from work and travel to the NCAA's. To watch my team. The team I live (and apparently die) for.

Maybe I'll root for Bowling Green.
 
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I wish I could have watched the game. I knew it was going to be an uphill battle for the Irish as I've always believed Yost is the hardest venue for the visiting team to get a win at.
 
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Folks,

Do not assume that the leaders on this team did not to hold teammates accountable. Remember, they are not the final word.

I don't think the issues this year are much different that a couple of years ago.
 
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Folks,

Do not assume that the leaders on this team did not to hold teammates accountable. Remember, they are not the final word.

I don't think the issues this year are much different that a couple of years ago.

Clearly, you just fell off the turnip truck.

Two years ago was completely different. Injuries plagued this team from even before the season started. There was a rift in the locker room with some players wanting to follow X and others wanting to follow Y. There was a captain who was not effective. There were prima donnas.

This season there were virtually no injuries that hampered the team. There were solid leaders. There was no rift. Coach Jackson mentioned in the last Q & A that this team was almost "too close" and they weren't holding each other accountable because of that closeness. So my lamentation of not holding each other accountable comes straight from the head horse's mouth.

And captains are often the final (and only) word in the locker room.
 
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Folks,

Do not assume that the leaders on this team did not to hold teammates accountable. Remember, they are not the final word.

I don't think the issues this year are much different that a couple of years ago.

I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make. Are you saying the fault lies mostly with Jackson or the coaching staff as a whole? Are you saying the leaders (captains and alternates) DID do the right things, and the rest of the players failed to follow their lead? As has been pointed out, there were some real questions about how well the players actually did hold each accountable. Jackson said it and it was reported on in a couple of different places. Now was he throwing his team under the bus or were his observations on the money? I think that's fair to ask.

Jackson is going to have to reassess his whole approach in the offseason. Two years out of three this team has failed -- and failed miserably -- to live up to any of the expectations they began the season with. And he failed miserably in both seasons to ever come close to solving the problems. He has been unable to navigate through waters choppier than he is used to seeing. But one of the all-time greats needs to be able to coach his team in all sorts of conditions. Slumps, youth, injuries, chemistry, they are all a part of the game. If other coaches can find ways to deal with them, then I expect the one here to do so as well. Red Berenson has dealt with discipline issues, injury issues, players leaving early, yet every year they are in Detroit and in the NCAAs. And his teams aren't the only such examples.

The growth in the program under Jackson's leadership from May of 2005 until the team skated off the ice in Detroit on March 22, 2009 was astounding to be sure. Perhaps it unfairly inflated expectations, a spin I'm sure both the coaching staff and the athletic department will surely allow us to believe if we choose. It makes their jobs easier. But I'm not falling for that. The level of talent taking the Joyce Center ice from 2006-2009 was overall not what this team brings. We were told the facilities were not conducive to championship hockey. Now the team plays and trains in hockey specific facilities that are the best in the CCHA and certainly among the best in the sport. If we have the talent and the building what else is there?

Perhaps we were premature to feel as though Notre Dame hockey had finally arrived as a program. This season coming so quickly on the heels of the one two years ago makes me think we were. But is sure as hell isn't because it was unfair of us to do so.
 
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I would like to give congrats to #17 on a great season. Of all the disappointments this team had he was steady throughout and played his best hockey at the end.Good luck in the future and let's hope u are playing next year.Thanks
 
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This senior class has seen the good, the bad and the ugly. It's always impressive (and humbling for the top guys, I'm sure) to see teammates such as Rich Ryan and Nick Condon who practice day in and day out, pushing the rest of the team to be better, knowing that by doing that they likely won't see much, if any, ice time. When their team needed them, they were there, filling in when injuries decimated this team back in '09. I remember Patrick Gaul doing just that when Ryan Thang missed 6 games. I thought Gaul did a remarkable job stepping into some huge skates. He ended up scoring some timely goals this year and proved to be a great 4th line energy guy and a fantastic penalty-killer. And let's not forget Eric Ringel when thinking of injuries. He is the epitome of making lemonade out of the lemons that came his way. Sure gonna miss those Mickey Mouse on skates ties... Sean Lorenz, whom I called for a captaincy position last year, proved to be a great communicator with the vision of a coach (as was proved in 2 scenes in Onward to Victory). He was also a conscientious leader off the ice as well as we wish him luck as a finalist for the Lowe's Senior CLASS award. He finished his college career with 44 points and was +25 for those 4 years. Not bad for a "defensive defenseman" who typically went up against opponents' top lines. Billy Maday finds himself the 46th player for ND to join the "Century Club." As an undrafted player, he wore many hats on the ice as he was a good leader and face off guy, the 2nd best penalty-killer on the team who also shared the lead for PPG's and the 3rd leading scorer this year, registering nearly a point for every other shot he took on net, bested only be T.J. Tynan in that stat.

Good luck to the senior class of the 2011-12 hockey team.
 
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Paula Weston reported that, "After Michigan swept Notre Dame Saturday night — and it was a really, really good series between two evenly matched teams — Hunwick was asked to sum up the weekend. “'Whoever wants it the most — it’s cliche to say it — but whoever wants it the most,' said Hunwick, 'and is working the hardest is probably going to win the games.'”

If that doesn't serve as a wake-up call, a kick in the pants or a fire underneath the Irish next season, I fear nothing will.
 
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Just think...in 30 minutes I get to watch the selection show and wonder where my team would have gone. If anyone had told me two months ago that virtually half (5 of the 11 teams) of the CCHA will make it to the regionals, and that my team would not be one of them, I would have thought they were nuts. Rats.
 
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Notre Dame was picked first by 52 of the coaches and media members who voted in the CCHA pre-season polls. Only 31 people voted for another school as the top team, and all the other votes for Notre Dame were for second or third place.

The question that begs asking is did all of those people assume something about this team that isn't as a matter of fact realistic? Is this a program that actually deserves this kind of expectation, or have many of us falsely convinced ourselves that it has come as far as we thought? By comparison, MSU and Ferris were slated 8th and 9th in the coaches vote and 6th and 7th in the media poll and are in the NCAAs while Notre Dame is golfing, or studying, or recovering from St Paddy's Day festivities.

With UNH out of the tourney for the first time in a decade, Miami's continued success now makes them the holder of the 3rd longest streak of NCAA appearances. We should be right behind them working on our 6th, but we are a long way off. Western Michigan is enjoying their first ever back-to-back NCAA invites. It was 3 long years ago we were enjoying this weekend for consecutive seasons.

My guess is that the Notre Dame athletic department surveyed the landscape and assumed many of the same things we all did. There is no valid explanation for this program enjoying the success it did from 2006-2009 at the Joyce Center, but once we began recruiting based on the Compton and actually utilizing the benefits the facilities have to offer that we are sitting home as the NCAAs roll around.

Other than Michigan, all the elite programs miss the NCAA tournament on occasion. Some more often than their fans think is reasonable. One look at the Minnesota or Boston University threads over the last few years will tell you that. But these schools can more easily absorb the down years because they have built up a cache of success that bears out the argument that everything goes in cycles. They have the championship banners to prove that one year out of the tournament is an anomaly. We're not anywhere near that yet. Seasons like this and two years ago do more damage to our development than 2009 ever will to Boston College. They followed up their first absence from the NCAA tournament in 6 seasons with 3 straight HE playoff titles, three more NCAA berths, and yet another NCAA title. Once again this season they're the overall number one team and a fair bet to win it all in Tampa.

Notre Dame hockey is not anywhere near the elite level. It will actually get harder in the upcoming seasons for the program to continue to grow and move towards the level I earlier thought we were on the cusp of. We are trading 3 rivals in MSU, UM and OSU that were vital to the vast legions of Notre Dame fans who first identify with football as the face of Notre Dame athletics for one in BC. We may have to reorganize our recruiting priorities, and while I have no doubt it is completely possible to recruit any area we need to, it will take time to implement a different strategy. We are going into a conference where three other teams are perennial NCAA contenders instead of the two we faced in the CCHA. We will be facing a whole new set of teams who feel like beating a Notre Dame hockey team carries the same meaning as beating a Lou Holtz coached Notre Dame football team. The travel becomes a bigger issue. Yes flights to Boston are quicker than buses to Marquette, but it is a physiological reality that flying is more fatiguing than spending time at or near sea level. All of our conference road games will involve flights while our foes will each face this once a season.

We have some built in advantages, not the least of which will be a better reach on TV than any college hockey team has yet enjoyed. Our sport also faces little of the recruiting disadvantages that the football or basketball teams are forced to deal with. But the presence of a Hall of Fame caliber coach, more raw talent than almost every team that finished in front of us 2 of the last 3 seasons, and now the best building in the CCHA, have all done little for the bottom line recently.

The summer will be a time for this team, from the incoming freshmen all the way up to Tom Nevala and Jack Swarbrick, to identify what will be necessary to truly make Notre Dame one of the NCAAs elite hockey programs. Our fans -- both locals and students alike -- need to get better. Our players need to get better. Our coaches need to get better.

I'd like to go into Hockey East on a high note. I want to leave the CCHA with the final two banners in tow. Whether or not expectations like these can be realized, I at least want them to be reasonable.
 
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Just think...in 30 minutes I get to watch the selection show and wonder where my team would have gone. If anyone had told me two months ago that virtually half (5 of the 11 teams) of the CCHA will make it to the regionals, and that my team would not be one of them, I would have thought they were nuts. Rats.

Watching Western raise that trophy last night was pretty hard to take. If you would have told me 2 months ago that ohio state would not have been at the Joe and also not at getting to the Ncaa's i would have called you nuts.
 
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Hopefully one of the incoming freshman is a solid two-way player. Sheahan is probably signing with Detroit.
 
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