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I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

Pfffffffffffff.

The hoops team was in the ACC title game not too long ago and had some very good teams that Skinner screwed up with in the NCAAs in the not so distant past.

Are they mediocre now? Maybe that's even generous. But about 4 years ago they were pretty good and a pick by one major publication to win the national title going into the tourney with Hinnant, Smith, and Dudley.

Let's see what happens now that they got rid of Skinner. Not too long ago both programs were highly competitive and the arena served both programs quite well and the arena continues to do so as they've continually made upgrades to it (check out the new scoreboards). BU built a hockey only facility because their athletic department is a one-trick pony. That's nothing to be proud of - which can be said of most things associated with BU.

Ok...I happpen to like Coach Skinner. I think he did a pretty good job. But in my comparison, whatever BC basketball did pales in comparison to what BC hockey has done. The basketball team has not won a national championship.

That's the basis of my comparison. If I hurt feelings by calling the basketball team "mediocre", excuse my poor choice of words. You're right, they've had some pretty good teams. But York's hockey teams have been better.
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

I'd love to have Enrico Blasi. Really a great hockey coach.

York is like college hockey's version of Bill Belichick (post season success, etc) and Blasi reminds me of Josh McDaniel (young gun, rising star)
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

York is like college hockey's version of Bill Belichick (post season success, etc) and Blasi reminds me of Josh McDaniel (young gun, rising star)

:eek:

Don't insult York drawing comparisons to Belichick, especially with that "etc."
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

York is like college hockey's version of Bill Belichick (post season success, etc) and Blasi reminds me of Josh McDaniel (young gun, rising star)

from a pure job performance perspective only and i assume this is what you meant because in anything else in life they are NOTHING alike. York is a prince and the other guy is a scum bag, IMO. piece of dirt:eek:
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

:eek:

Don't insult York drawing comparisons to Belichick, especially with that "etc."

Drawing a football analogy with postseason performance, it's not a bad one. Both are thought to be amongst the best all-time compared with their peers.
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

York is like college hockey's version of Bill Belichick (post season success, etc) and Blasi reminds me of Josh McDaniel (young gun, rising star)

Except unlike McDaniel and Belichik, Blasi is a George Gwozdecky protege, not Jerry York's. ;)
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

from a pure job performance perspective only and i assume this is what you meant because in anything else in life they are NOTHING alike. York is a prince and the other guy is a scum bag, IMO. piece of dirt:eek:

There's no guy I'd want coaching my alma mater's hockey team than York and no coach I'd want coaching my football team than Belichick.
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

But in my comparison, whatever BC basketball did pales in comparison to what BC hockey has done. The basketball team has not won a national championship.

And anything the football team has done pales in comparison with the accomplishments of the sailing team. Time to stop putting money into Alumni Stadium and build a new sailing facility!!!!

Look, I love hockey and wouldn't even mind rooting for a one-trick pony school if the one trick was hockey. That said, BC basketball probably brings in more money and publicity in a .500 year than BU hockey did by winning the national championship last year.
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

BC basketball probably brings in more money and publicity in a .500 year than BU hockey did by winning the national championship last year.
Ding ding, exactly.

The sad truth is that no one cares about hockey, let alone college hockey.

Put it this way. Commercials on NCAA bouncyball are more expensive than any other sporting event save the Super Bowl. Wachovia pays UNC $1m a year to put their logo on a courtside table. KU earned $2.5m just on licensing revenue following their recent championship. And that's nothing compared to football - Texas football turned a $65m profit last year.

Just remember this - the cost of one courtside ad at UNC (for the season) s about the same amount of profit the NCAA makes on the Frozen Four.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_14/b4172058546496_page_3.htm
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

There's no guy I'd want coaching my alma mater's hockey team than York and no coach I'd want coaching my football team than Belichick.

Aren't you forgetting Tom O'Brien?
 
Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

I wonder how much of his success has been the new Goggin center. If you look at his first six years, he was mediocre, with one good season (23-14-4). In 2004 they broke ground on the Goggin, and since 2005-2006 they haven't been worse than ten games over .500.

I don't know the reason for the sudden jump in performance. It could be the arena itself, it could be a larger University commitment to hockey of which the new arena was just the most visible symptom, or it could be Rico.

What is impressive about York is that he achieves so much success in an aging arena, on a campus where hockey is 3rd fiddle.
I think it's a combination of the arena, school and coach. No doubt the new arena helped Miami attract better quality players to the school. Building the new arena shows the commitment from the university. Then you need the coaching staff to sign, seal and deliver the better recruits. The coaching staff must also know what to do with those thoroughbreds.

Obviously, Rico and Jerry, among others, know how to coach the high end talent they have. You don't consistently get to the level they get their teams to each year without the horses.

Give these coaches mid level talent and they will probably get them to play above their heads and be competitive with anyone, but to consistently be in the hunt for a National Championship, you've go to have high end talent.
 
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York is like college hockey's version of Bill Belichick (post season success, etc) and Blasi reminds me of Josh McDaniel (young gun, rising star)

i cringe reading York and bellicheat in the same sentence.

There certainly are some good young coaches out there. Blasi and Sneddon impress me. Not a fan of Sneddon's system, though.

Sneddon is always a name i think of when someone asks if BU would look at a non-BU guy once Jack takes full time naps. i'd also think that he tries to win his way with the guys he has to bring in. if he was given the 'hand of God' job at bc and was able to pick and choose which high talent smurfs he wanted, there is no way he would trap.
(though whether then he would be able to win or not, your guess is as good as mine.) Jerry is certainly in a small group who fits the- "He can take his'n and beat you'n, and he can take your'n and beat his'n."
 
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Re: I will say this, if we didn't have Jerry York

Screw York, the best coach in history is clearly Roger Grillo. (LOL)
 
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