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I Think I'll Go For A Walk - Death Pool Thread

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Dr. Demento will be crushed, Stan was a huge hero. A fraternity brother once told me about visiting Stan's restaurant, and the awesome display of 7 silver bats! An all time great player and gentleman. RIP, Stan.

Just feel totally crushed-but knew this was coming. He was 92 and had lost his wife and was obviously failing. Met The Man in 1955 when he gave me a signed bat outside Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. Absolute gentleman-and wonderful ambassador for the game. There were very few who were like him and I doubt we will ever see his type again. Truly a sad day for baseball.:(:(:( (one for each of his MVP awards)
 
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Just feel totally crushed-but knew this was coming. He was 92 and had lost his wife and was obviously failing. Met The Man in 1955 when he gave me a signed bat outside Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. Absolute gentleman-and wonderful ambassador for the game. There were very few who were like him and I doubt we will ever see his type again. Truly a sad day for baseball.:(:(:( (one for each of his MVP awards)

He had been married 71 years! The guy set a standard, both on and off the field, that few have ever or will ever match.
 
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I heard that Stan didn't have a sub .300 season until his 18th season. :eek:
 
I heard that Stan didn't have a sub .300 season until his 18th season. :eek:
IIRC he was going to retire after the 1961season, but then looked at the pitching staffs of the Mets and Colt .45's and decided to stick around for a couple more seasons
 
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I heard that Stan didn't have a sub .300 season until his 18th season. :eek:

Not too shabby for a fellow who was just an average pitcher when he started. If he did not take a spill and hurt his pitching arm-he may have never been switched to the outfield (and then first base). I am not sure-but i do not think he ever struck out more than 50 times in any season.
 
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Not too shabby for a fellow who was just an average pitcher when he started. If he did not take a spill and hurt his pitching arm-he may have never been switched to the outfield (and then first base). I am not sure-but i do not think he ever struck out more than 50 times in any season.
His record....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/musiast01.shtml

For comparison, Teddy Ballgame -- http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willite01.shtml
Willie Mays -- http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mayswi01.shtml (1971??????)
Hank Aaron -- http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/aaronha01.shtml

Reggie Jackson -- http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jacksre01.shtml
 
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Just feel totally crushed-but knew this was coming. He was 92 and had lost his wife and was obviously failing. Met The Man in 1955 when he gave me a signed bat outside Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. Absolute gentleman-and wonderful ambassador for the game. There were very few who were like him and I doubt we will ever see his type again. Truly a sad day for baseball.:(:(:( (one for each of his MVP awards)

Couldn't agree more. My wife's whole family is from St. Louis and were absolutely huge baseball fans. Her grandfather played for the Browns back in the day. I asked him once what his favorite moment of playing baseball was. Without thinking for a second, he told me "meeting Stan Musial." He then proceeded to talk about Musial for about 45 minutes (and he was not a very loquacious man). When he was done, I asked him what his favorite moment of actually playing baseball was. He paused, this time for maybe a second, got that wry little smile that he got and said, "meeting Stan Musial." Now, her grandfather passed away about 3 years ago...I'm sure he's in a long line to welcome "The Man" into Heaven. :)
 
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I was too young to truly appreciate what i was seeing back in the 50's. I came from a very athletic family with my mom being a professional athlete and my dad a semi pro baseball and pro softball player. Living in NY (Brooklyn) we had the advantage of seeing 3 major league teams and I cannot count the games my dad took me to. But we saw more StL games at Ebbets and the Polo Grounds than anything else. With only 8 NL teams we got the Cardinals into N for 22 games each year and i think most years I got to see 20. Musial was obviously a great baseball talent-just one look at the details of his record and statistics tells you that-not just homers, but doubles, triples, total hits, rbi's, runs. But it was his off the field persona that set him apart. Just one of the best representatives of the game you could ask for. I wonder-if he played in today's market, with a major market team (Like NY or LA) what he would be earning?

My best memeries include-waiting outside ebbets Field for 2 hours in the rain for him to come out and him taking me back into the clubhouse and giving me a bat. His hitting 5 home runs in a double header at the Polo Grounds (only been done 2 other times) and he was not really ahome run hitter. One 4 game series over a weekend in Brooklyn where they just could not get him out-14 hits including 3 HR and 6 doubles. One Dodger pitcher in an interview (perhaps Preacher Roe?) in the late 40's or 50's when asked how to pitch to Musial and get him out simply said-"I throw him 4 wide fastballs and walk him-then try to pick him off first base". The HOF has a lot of inductees-some probably more deserving than others-he has to be very close to the top echelon. There are some very good players in today's game but i count myself very fortunate to have seen Stan Musial, Ted Williams, Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle play.
 
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NYC (and Brooklyn) had the luck (and skill) to have at least 1 team in the World Series from 1949 - 1958. Then, after a 1 year break (pesky White Sox), they ran off from 1960 - 1964. Dr. D was a happy camper. I was too young to attend until '63 and '64.
 
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Meanwhile the "Chicago National League Ball Club" and its fans were suffering. Then they brought in the man Babe Ruth described as "the all American out," Leo Durocher to manage, and things began to improve. Those late 60's and early 70's Cubs teams had four HOFers, and even though they didn't win a title, were consistent contenders, something most Cubs fans (certainly me) had never experienced.

In his first year as manager, '66, Leo made some of the changes that would bring great success to the North side, like bringing Ferguson Jenkins out of the bull pen. But they were a year away from contending, and finished dead last. I was at a game in September when they were 32 (or was it 132?) games out of first. To amuse himself, Durocher had taken to coaching 3rd base. There were fewer than 1,000 in attendance (actually very cool because you could talk to the players and they'd answer). I was sitting in the low boxes behind 3rd. Cubs had 2 outs and a man on 3rd, Billy Williams at the plate. He hit a towering fly on the infield. The Cubs runner broke for the plate, but Leo motioned him back to the bag, where he took the baserunner's stance--left foot touching the bag. Legs bent. Hands on thighs. The popup came down, literally a couple of feet away from his feet. The runner stood his ground as the 3rd baseman (IIRC Dick Allen) tried to get to it. Umpire calls runner out for interference. This gets Leo up in his face, pointing out that breaking for home with 2 outs is a convention, not a rule. And interpreting the interference rule that way would mean in a situation where the infield fly rule didn't apply, his guy would have to move off the base, thus giving himself up for a double play.

Okay, that argument ends. Next half inning, Leo sends Billy Williams out to lead off. Plate umpire (IIRC Augie Donatelli) says he can't bat, he was out during his last at bat. That brings Leo out. Walking very slowly to the plate. Where he extends 4 fingers and sticks them in the umpire's face like a Marine DI. And he says to Donatelli (remember, nobody in the park, you could very clearly hear what he was yelling) "You @#$%^^&& (insulting word for Italian Americans)!@#$%^^&. 15 years in the @@#$%^& major leagues and you can't count to @#$%^& three?" You (insulting word for Italian Americans) @#$%^^&*. If my man is out at 3rd to end the previous !@#$%%^ half inning, then how is Williams out, too? That's 4 #$%^&*&* outs you (insulting word for Italian Americans) (sexual activity reference)." All the while Leo had those four fingers right up in the guy's face. This went on every half inning for most of the rest of the game. And Leo never got tossed.

One of the best days I ever spent at the Friendly Confines.
 
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Musial was an acknowledged all-time great, and yet perhaps still underappreciated because of his demeanor. Ken Griffey Jr. will forever be consigned to being the second-best outfielder born on November 21st in Donora, Pennsylvania, because of him.

Joe Posnanski on Musial

RIP Stan the Man.
 
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Musial was an acknowledged all-time great, and yet perhaps still underappreciated because of his demeanor. Ken Griffey Jr. will forever be consigned to being the second-best outfielder born on November 21st in Donora, Pennsylvania, because of him.

Joe Posnanski on Musial

RIP Stan the Man.

JMH-thanks for posting. Wonderful tribute article for The Man.
 
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JMH-thanks for posting. Wonderful tribute article for The Man.

Indeed. Then I read his article on Earl Weaver and watched the video of Weaver's typical tirade. Talk about polar opposites! :eek:
 
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