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Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

If it was mentioned elsewhere I missed it, i was disappointed that Megan tried to do too much on the pk, got the puck taken away, fell down and then glided back up the ice as the trailer got the puck and scored...one might expect a player that just gave the other team a 2 man advantage would put in more effort to get back and get in the play
 
Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

FiveHole12 said:
I didn't have the advantage of tv replay, but live, I didn't see a penalty on Abbott. Looked like both guys just lost an edge and went down.

Reason for no whistle... my guess is because BU had possession and was going the other way up ice. Had Maine touched the puck, or if the play had continued in the vicinity of the injured player, there would have been a whistle.
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I was at the far end from the play, and I really thought it looked like a hook by the Escobedo, but looking at it on the dvr this morning, I really didn't see a penalty there either - they were both driving to the boards and went down, period.
 
pirate said:
If it was mentioned elsewhere I missed it, i was disappointed that Megan tried to do too much on the pk, got the puck taken away, fell down and then glided back up the ice as the trailer got the puck and scored...one might expect a player that just gave the other team a 2 man advantage would put in more effort to get back and get in the play
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I saw this mentioned in a txt to scarlet someone made immediately after it happened :mad:
 
pirate said:
If it was mentioned elsewhere I missed it, i was disappointed that Megan tried to do too much on the pk, got the puck taken away, fell down and then glided back up the ice as the trailer got the puck and scored...one might expect a player that just gave the other team a 2 man advantage would put in more effort to get back and get in the play
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I noticed that too. Lazy a ss play but typical of the effort last night. Worse was Clandenning whoz's two turnovers directly lead to two scores. He was atrocious this game.
 
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Rover said:
I noticed that too. Lazy a ss play but typical of the effort last night. Worse was Clandenning whoz's two turnovers directly lead to two scores. He was atrocious this game.
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i thought in general the passes the dmen were making resembled ones i see in squirt games. weak arm pushes that had nothing on them and were picked up at will.
 
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blackbearsfan45 said:
I was at the far end from the play, and I really thought it looked like a hook by the Escobedo, but looking at it on the dvr this morning, I really didn't see a penalty there either - they were both driving to the boards and went down, period.
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I watched on TV and saw it the same way. This is a tough call for the refs. We don't want to turn college hockey into European soccer, but especially at the sub-pro level, you don't want to jeopardize a player's health. Also, not blowing the whistle was consistent with the fact that the refs called some embellishment penalties last night.

To his credit, I didn't see any whining from Whitehead.

Question for those who saw it live. Did any of the officials (probably should be the trail ref) check on the Abbot while the play continued, or just ignore him?
 
Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

The only penalty should have been when Diamond came in after the play and hit the BU guy. Boarding, hitting from behind, take your pick.
 
Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

Totally agree regarding the non-call for the elbow. And couldn't believe the idiot announcers on NESN said several times that Abbott "fell awkwardly into the boards". He didn't "fall", he took an elbow to the head that knocked him off balance. I'm not saying it was malicious...but it looked obvious in real time and it was obvious when looking at the replay.

If he is out for the remainder that will be a huge blow to UMaine. Not saying they can't win without him...but still keeping my fingers crossed.


walrus said:
I thought it was obvious in real time there was contact to the head, a supposed point of emphasis. Was it dirty or cheap, no but it was contact to the head. I saw it many times last night that wasn't called though so.... I'm not shocked they didn't blow the whistle, he wasn't in the way of the play and BU got a clean breakout. I saw play stopped at Alfond last weekend where MC had the puck and a Maine player was down so I guess it depends on the pair
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CLS said:
I watched on TV and saw it the same way. This is a tough call for the refs. We don't want to turn college hockey into European soccer, but especially at the sub-pro level, you don't want to jeopardize a player's health. Also, not blowing the whistle was consistent with the fact that the refs called some embellishment penalties last night.

To his credit, I didn't see any whining from Whitehead.

Question for those who saw it live. Did any of the officials (probably should be the trail ref) check on the Abbot while the play continued, or just ignore him?
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Bunyon turned and looked at him from over by the BU bench, and let play continue.
 
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blackbearsfan45 said:
Bunyon turned and looked at him from over by the BU bench, and let play continue.
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The sheer fact this clueless, incompetent buffoon is still officiating games at the D1 level is baffling. I didn't see the game and just started reading this thread -- as soon as I saw the name Bunyon, I'm glad I didn't see it as my blood pressure level would've gone up lol.
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
The sheer fact this clueless, incompetent buffoon is still officiating games at the D1 level is baffling. I didn't see the game and just started reading this thread -- as soon as I saw the name Bunyon, I'm glad I didn't see it as my blood pressure level would've gone up lol.
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Truthfully, I thought the officials did a pretty respectable job - they let a lot of stuff go, but both ways, so it was pretty even. The only thing that really had me scratching my head was the matching penalties right after the Abbott thing on O'Neill and...I don't remember who it was for BU. Looking at it on the dvr this morning, I couldn't see a penalty committed by either player - it was like an afterthought from Bunyon after the whistle was blown.
 
llama said:
Totally agree regarding the non-call for the elbow. And couldn't believe the idiot announcers on NESN said several times that Abbott "fell awkwardly into the boards". He didn't "fall", he took an elbow to the head that knocked him off balance. I'm not saying it was malicious...but it looked obvious in real time and ito was obvious when looking at the replay.

If he is out for the remainder that will be a huge blow to UMaine. Not saying they can't win without him...but still keeping my fingers crossed.
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Sucks if he is out, but I still think Maine can still play some darn good hockey even without him. If Sullivan brings his A game you will be fine.
 
Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

Let's summarize why BU lost the game.

The BU team the whole reason plays with luck. So with luck (not always presented) the result was sporadic. There was no a system to win.

When you play with a good team with luck, you win some, you lose some. But you probably would never win any important games like the one last night or the Beanpot or the NCAA games when what you relying on is luck.

That's the sad state of the BU team.

Individually all are talented and hardworking, but that is not enough; that does not always translate to a win as we have witnessed the whole season. They need a winning system that can score goals consistently. So the blame should fall to the training and the coaching staff - maybe they really don't know how to train their players to win?

We never saw a scenario last night the whole BU team attacked as a whole, instead, the forwards and the defense players were disconnected and not in sync like Maine, who scored many goals relying on the assisted attacks from the defense with the forwards screening at front of Millan collecting the rebounds. This worked well for Maine last night. To the contrary, BU's defense players most of the time of offense just stood there behind the Maine forward watching the guys playing out front without actively helping. All you saw is three BU forwards playing hard like crazy fighting isolated without their defense players' help.

The tema just can't win playing without a system, although BU forwards were hardworking. Just unfortunate.

Wish them luck for the next game.
 
Re: Hockey East Semis - BU vs Maine 3/16/12

bantam75 said:
Ok can all you Mainiacs who have called for Whitehead's head for so long finally give the guy his due? Granted he's not Sean and will never be, but look at his record compared to everyone else not named York since 2002. He has not had the talent that York, Parker and Umile have had since then, but other than York his record at champinship time vs Parker is arguably better. probably better than Umile too.

as BU fan I hate losing to Maine, but Maine has come up bigger when it counts of late. The program could have tanked after Sean, but Timmy had the team playing for all the marbles in 2002 and 2004.

I would not be surprised to see Maine win tonite and do damage at the regionals. Quite a turnaround from November I would say. Meanwhile BU is .500 since that double dip vs Maine in January. I think BU fans have more ammunition against Parker.
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1. For THIS season?.....yes, I will absolutely give Whitehead credit.

2. It's SHAWN......not Sean.
 
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blackbearsfan45 said:
Bunyon turned and looked at him from over by the BU bench, and let play continue.
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These effing HEA refs need to get a clue.......this "embellishment" B.S. needs to be revamped in the off-season. I guess that possible "embellishment" trumps contact to the head now. And now a Hobey Baker candidate might be done for the season. Great job Hockey East! We need a new Commish.......that's for dam sure!
 
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sandiegoblkbr said:
These effing HEA refs need to get a clue.......this "embellishment" B.S. needs to be revamped in the off-season. I guess that possible "embellishment" trumps contact to the head now. And now a Hobey Baker candidate might be done for the season. Great job Hockey East! We need a new Commish.......that's for dam sure!
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I hear you, just watched the replay and the guy is behind Abbott, and slams him with an elbow in the head, only reason they let it go is because Diamond runs the guy over from behind after.
 
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Sweeper said:
I hear you, just watched the replay and the guy is behind Abbott, and slams him with an elbow in the head, only reason they let it go is because Diamond runs the guy over from behind after.
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Wonder why he ran him over? Joey sticks up for his teammates, without question
 
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Just saw the video for the first time. Escobedo elbowed him in the temple. Anyone who says otherwise is blind. That's minimum 5 games in the press box if Brendan Shanahan's running Hockey East. And if its the NHL, play would've stopped because Joey would've dropped the gloves and beat the tar of him.
 
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