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Hockey East 2020-2021

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J.D. said:
Barry Scanlon gonna be livid when Lowell is left out tomorrow
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Do you think Hockey East only gets three teams in? After winning at BU and BC in the conference tourney would think UML is obvious choice for fourth team in line for NCAA berth.

I didn’t watch a ton of the game tonight but did hear announcers say UMA didn’t have any players get Covid during the season. It can’t be a coincidence they fared better than other team and won the league.
 
BC didn't either. Tough to say on a 4th Hockey East team. UConn is ahead of PC and UML if you look at the math but would the committee put them in over PC after that QF beatdown? If I had to guess I am saying 3 from HE.
 
J.D. said:
BC didn't either. Tough to say on a 4th Hockey East team. UConn is ahead of PC and UML if you look at the math but would the committee put them in over PC after that QF beatdown? If I had to guess I am saying 3 from HE.
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No.

And yes, I'm guessing 3 Hockey East teams too. IF there is a #4, look for Lowell.

No one gives a rat's patooie about HEPI.

Carvel to Commish Nigel tonight: "Am we winnin' enough, Guv?!?" :-)
 
Wodon and McMahon talking about this HE trio as a potential last team in. McMahon actually said Lowell. It is absolutely remarkable how often Providence is right on the bubble/last team in.
 
Lemonade said:
I think Carvel and Leaman really run the league. Bazin probably sits back and watches it all and gets called in for council. Not sure York knows how to use a computer. Souza isn't allowed in....Cavanaugh is the new young guy learning the ropes and they probably all laugh at Albie and the rest of the guys.
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I don't think the commish would ever talk to York like the did to Carvel. He should never be speaking to one of his 21 coaches like that. That is it he has to worry about.
 
I think it was pretty messed up up
the commissioner was at Amherst tonight considering one of his teams was playing for a National Championship.
 
jjmc85 said:
I think it was pretty messed up up
the commissioner was at Amherst tonight considering one of his teams was playing for a National Championship.
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....And he would get criticized for not being at his own League's championship. Either way, he loses. But I get your point. Not that I care so much, just a reflection. Anyway...who caught Trivingo's F bomb at the post game interview? lol
 
J.D. said:
Barry Scanlon gonna be livid when Lowell is left out tomorrow
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Barry Scanlon actually knows college hockey, and has done commentary on some of the game broadcasts. It was an editor for the Sun who had no clue about how the Pairwise works.
 
He knew Hockey East would lose yet again in the FF

The more I look at the bracket, there is a clear opening for a 4th HE team to fill one of the eastern regionals (they claim to want to limit travel even more than usual). Not sure they are deserving but it might be a coin flip at this point.
 
J.D. said:
He knew Hockey East would lose yet again in the FF

The more I look at the bracket, there is a clear opening for a 4th HE team to fill one of the eastern regionals (they claim to want to limit travel even more than usual). Not sure they are deserving but it might be a coin flip at this point.
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If the selection committee wants to reinforce the importance of performance and results in games that matter, picking Lowell as the 4th Hockey East team is the only choice that makes sense. Otherwise, like you say, it's flipping a coin between 4 teams hovering at or around (or in UConn's case, under) the .500 mark. Lowell played all 3 NCAA bound teams in the playoffs, won twice, and took the 3rd one right down to the wire in the Finals. That clearly sets them apart.

If it's not UMass Lowell, it should be just 3 HE teams. I can see it either way, we'll see soon enough.
 
Chuck Murray said:
If the selection committee wants to reinforce the importance of performance and results in games that matter, picking Lowell as the 4th Hockey East team is the only choice that makes sense. Otherwise, like you say, it's flipping a coin between 4 teams hovering at or around (or in UConn's case, under) the .500 mark. Lowell played all 3 NCAA bound teams in the playoffs, won twice, and took the 3rd one right down to the wire in the Finals. That clearly sets them apart.

If it's not UMass Lowell, it should be just 3 HE teams. I can see it either way, we'll see soon enough.
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If they used that logic to insert Lowell i would have no problem with it.
 
Chuck Murray said:
If the selection committee wants to reinforce the importance of performance and results in games that matter, picking Lowell as the 4th Hockey East team is the only choice that makes sense. Otherwise, like you say, it's flipping a coin between 4 teams hovering at or around (or in UConn's case, under) the .500 mark. Lowell played all 3 NCAA bound teams in the playoffs, won twice, and took the 3rd one right down to the wire in the Finals. That clearly sets them apart.

If it's not UMass Lowell, it should be just 3 HE teams. I can see it either way, we'll see soon enough.
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It would be great if say two of the bubble teams played, like a knockout round during the season. Oh yeah, Lowell and PC played once - PC won. PC goes over Lowell.....
 
That's a little too simplistic to me unless we're talking about a conference tournament meeting such as between UConn and Providence. Similar records. To me both those teams went into that game thinking the loser is done. If the comparison is Lowell to PC I don't think you decide based on Lowell's first game of the season when PC at least had a couple games under their belt.
 
Possibly interesting sidenote: A combined total of only seven Massachusetts players were on the rosters of the two competing Massachusetts state universities.
 
Chuck Murray said:
If the selection committee wants to reinforce the importance of performance and results in games that matter, picking Lowell as the 4th Hockey East team is the only choice that makes sense. Otherwise, like you say, it's flipping a coin between 4 teams hovering at or around (or in UConn's case, under) the .500 mark. Lowell played all 3 NCAA bound teams in the playoffs, won twice, and took the 3rd one right down to the wire in the Finals. That clearly sets them apart.

If it's not UMass Lowell, it should be just 3 HE teams. I can see it either way, we'll see soon enough.
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Since when is that a criteria for selection? Using PWR criteria, it's not. In fact, they got rid of it.

If we're going to give Lowell credit for the "games that matter" wins over BC and BU and a close loss to UMass, should we disregard Lowell's 0-4-1 regular season record against those teams? Or their 0-5-1 RS record against BC, BU, and PC? In this 5-1-1 stretch to end the year in "games that matter" 3 of those wins are against UVM.

The committee should not overindex on a few conference tournament wins while disregarding the full resume.

Lowell finished the RS under .500, finished 7th in league standings, and had 0 RS wins over NCAA tournament "TUCs" in their league. They also got swept by UNH before their Covid pause.

PC isn't a lot better, but they finished over .500, 5th in the league, and are 1-5-2 against HE "TUCs." PC has no bad weekend sweeps.
 
brassbonanza said:
Since when is that a criteria for selection? Using PWR criteria, it's not. In fact, they got rid of it.

If we're going to give Lowell credit for the "games that matter" wins over BC and BU and a close loss to UMass, should we disregard Lowell's 0-4-1 regular season record against those teams? Or their 0-5-1 RS record against BC, BU, and PC? In this 5-1-1 stretch to end the year in "games that matter" 3 of those wins are against UVM.

The committee should not overindex on a few conference tournament wins while disregarding the full resume.

Lowell finished the RS under .500, finished 7th in league standings, and had 0 RS wins over NCAA tournament "TUCs" in their league. They also got swept by UNH before their Covid pause.

PC isn't a lot better, but they finished over .500, 5th in the league, and are 1-5-2 against HE "TUCs." PC has no bad weekend sweeps.
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This is the entire reason the PWR is so much better during regular times!

We can also say that BU beat up on the minnows of the conference with two wins over Maine and Vermont with split against Merrimack. That is half their wins this season.
 
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jjmc85 said:
I think it was pretty messed up up
the commissioner was at Amherst tonight considering one of his teams was playing for a National Championship.
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Don't be ridiculous. Unnecessary travel and the FF was in PA.

And the state's travel restrictions aren't lifted until Monday technically so I think staying put in MA for the men's side of things is far more reasonable.
 
The Zlax45 said:
This is the entire reason the PWR is so much better during regular times!

We can also say that BU beat up on the minnows of the conference with two wins over Maine and Vermont with split against Merrimack. That is half their wins this season.
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I hate to do this but BU did go 5-1-1-1 (I think I did that right) against HE teams under consideration for NCAAs.
 
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