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Hockey East 2020-2021

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My point is that it’s not the BU hockey program making the calls. By the looks of it BU is probably the most sensitive school in the country (minus the ivys) in regards to covid and protocols.
 
Lemonade said:
My point is that it's not the BU hockey program making the calls. By the looks of it BU is probably the most sensitive school in the country (minus the ivys) in regards to covid and protocols.
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... OR maybe the BU hockey program disingenuously misled its players into thinking they would actually try to participate in the '20/'21 Hockey East season, so as to avert some of their better players seeking transfers to other D-1 programs more committed to playing this season?

Haven't the some of the Ivy programs (ECAC) lost players to transfer once they nuked the season?

That's not an accusation, I'm only speculating why this curious course of conduct is going on ...
 
Split-N said:
Mr. Lemonade's post implied that the pause at Northeastern had something to do with the men's hockey program. For the record, the reasons for the pause did not involve the NU men's hockey program, or anyone associated with it, in any shape, manner, or form. Not by direct testing or indirectly through contact tracing. And whatever the reason for this week's cancellation of the UConn series, it doesn't involve Northeastern.
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I can't find the article, now that I actually need it, but I could have sworn that the hold up for this weekend's game was a UConn issue.
 
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I understand that. But they weren't postponed because of ONE positive test. That is the difference.
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Sure, but think about how many more people and coaches are on a football team as compared to hockey... and in football they could largely divide practices up into different groups (O-Line, defense etc etc).... so it should be easier to isolate within the team than it is in Hockey (or even moreso basketball) which is essentially one unit.
 
ericredaxe said:
Sure, but think about how many more people and coaches are on a football team as compared to hockey... and in football they could largely divide practices up into different groups (O-Line, defense etc etc).... so it should be easier to isolate within the team than it is in Hockey (or even moreso basketball) which is essentially one unit.
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And you’re outside in football and can create a lot of distance between people. Hockey doesn’t have those luxuries.
 
Lowell's games against Merrimack this weekend, and the newly scheduled one against Amherst on Tuesday, are now all postponed. Positive tests at Lowell.
 
When was the one positive test in question discovered and then when is it ok for a team to play after they had one positive test? This all goes back to having a plan to play. I am sure Hockey East consulted with medical experts but I just think they have failed miserably at implementing a plan and explaining the parameters.
 
Lemonade said:
Carvels comments are pretty dumb in my opinion....BU was ready to play and Vermont paused...how it that BU's fault? Then BU had covid issues and had to pause then winter break which happens every year. BU isn't opting out of games for no reason. Based in the city they certainly have a different Covid climate than being out in Amherst. If anything not playing has screwed BU hockey. Good luck not scrimmaging or playing any games at all then having to jump into Hockey East where teams are in midseason form with teams already having 12+ games under its belt.
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Carvel never specifically called out BU. He said there were teams those didn’t have the virus and chose not to play.

Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out which team hasn’t reported any positive tests but also hasn’t played in almost a month. Also doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why they didn’t play.

Also, with the UML cancellations it has me thinking that a tournament this year probably isn’t happening. There’s gonna be positive tests and chaos is going to unfold. Might be a good season to determine the autobid by standings, but then first they’d have to figure out how they’re going to determine the standings.


Only way I can see a tournament happening is creating a bubble. UMass has two rinks and is in Amherst and didn’t bring students to campus. Maybe the conference could bubble at Amherst. Each team could have its own entire dorm.
 
Lol so you're trying to spin Carvel's comments into being a shot at BC? I assume that is what you're referring to. If you're trying to say BC should have played someone since their last game, who should they have played? Take it up with the league. Hockey East has done a terrible job during all of this.
 
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And you should read Carvel's comments again. He is NOT talking about BC not playing recently. And he actually did specifically mention BU not playing.
 
J.D. said:
Lol so you're trying to spin Carvel's comments into being a shot at BC? I assume that is what you're referring to. If you're trying to say BC should have played someone since their last game, who should they have played? Take it up with the league. Hockey East has done a terrible job during all of this.
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Well Hockey East was scheduling games for PC who was without their Head Coach (who is still out this weekend), their Director of Operations (more of a video coach), and two players while BC wasn't getting games added? Just odd
 
Which lines up with how Hockey East has handled the whole thing. They have no idea what they are doing. But go back and look at York's history. He has routinely played in holiday tournaments KNOWING he will be without players who are at the World Juniors. So if we then conclude that Hockey East has simply handled all of this poorly, I agree.
 
J.D. said:
Which lines up with how Hockey East has handled the whole thing. They have no idea what they are doing. But go back and look at York's history. He has routinely played in holiday tournaments KNOWING he will be without players who are at the World Juniors. So if we then conclude that Hockey East has simply handled all of this poorly, I agree.
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I wouldn't say routinely played in tournaments.

2019-2020 season they did not play between December 8th and Jan. 4th
2018-2019 season they played Notre Dame on December 31st but that was the only game between December 7th and Jan. 4th
2017-2018 season they played UConn on December 30th but only game between December 9th and Jan. 5th
2016-2017 season they played in the Three Rivers Classic on December 29th and 30th and was first games since December 10th.
2015-2016 season they played in the Florida Tourney December 28th and 29th and was first games since December 10th.
2014-2015 season they did not play between December 13th and Jan. 2nd when they played in Dartmouth's tourney (I think the Juniors were still going on)
 
ericredaxe said:
Sure, but think about how many more people and coaches are on a football team as compared to hockey... and in football they could largely divide practices up into different groups (O-Line, defense etc etc).... so it should be easier to isolate within the team than it is in Hockey (or even moreso basketball) which is essentially one unit.
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Easier to isolate? Sure. But there's still only one (1) HEA team that hasn't played a game so far, and everyone else (even the other urban school) seems to have come to grips with this, and soldiered on. If I were a BU fan - and in the past, I was a fan of the program, at least back in the Parker and pre-Parker eras, my "second team" to UNH - I would be a little ticked off and asking some tough questions. Yet all I see on here from BU fans is a bunch of apologists making excuses for the program's laissez-faire approach to the '20/'21 HEA season.

I can absolutely believe the BU administration has the final call on this, and with HEA's "approach" (and I use that term very loosely and sarcastically) I'm sure that stands for each and every other HEA school/program. But again ... when everyone is trying to play, and one (1) team hasn't managed to pull it off after two months into the season, is it just "bad luck" or is it something else? You'd have to be extremely naive or gullible to think it's just down to "bad luck" at this point.

If this happened ten years ago, do you guys seriously think Coach Parker would be sitting this out, or not bucking admin on a daily basis to let his guys play as much as possible ... AND getting his way? Difference between him and Albie is, Parker had clout, earned it and used it. Albie has no clout, and thus has to submit to the whims of the admin. I'm almost tempted to feel badly for him, but who I really feel badly for is his players, who were possibly lied to in order to prevent transfers.

I'm not sure what thread it's on or where, but I posted a contest a couple of months ago asking folks to predict which team would be the last to play an actual game this year. There were pretty much two informed answers: UVM and BU (and my choice was BU). So it's not like this was an unforeseeable, surprise development. This is what BU has become, sadly ...
 
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Zlax I really can't handle your stupidity for much longer. Is it intentional? Are you just trying to get a reaction? In almost all the years you just researched BC played games during the WJC. If you went back even further it's a routine occurrence. BC almost always plays games during the WJC. A lot of times it has been a tournament that York went out of his way to be in knowing full well they would be without a player or two.
 
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