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Hobart Statesmen Hockey 2024-2025 Reigning D3 Back to Back Champions

Bartman said:
Salve Regina plays tough and ties score 2-2 in third, but Statesmen pull it out 3-2 and stay undefeated at 8-0.
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Sure does look like we are dealing with some kind of unstoppable machine. Not that it means a whole lot until you get to 20 games or so but #1 in pairwise too. Already a whole game ahead of the NEHC field with second place needing at least a road win and tie to pass them. Next best is already two games out and it's not very likely Hobart is going to get swept when they visit #3 in January. As far as March 2025 goes, anybody who appeared to have been a legitimate threat in the NCAA's over the last two seasons seems to have lost a step.

Have wanted to take in this show in person on the date they visited the Capitol District for each of the last two years but something got in the way both times. One year it was passing on a 35 mile drive each way over icy snow packed roads with below zero temperatures and the other it was a family thing. This year they are here twice and if it don't happen this time it never will.

To the best of my knowledge, after everybody is done conference hopping at the end of this season, Hobart will never again appear in the Capitol District for the foreseeable future unless they book a non conference game at virtually equally close Williams or MCLA in the very next town (both unlikely).
 
tony/troy said:
Sure does look like we are dealing with some kind of unstoppable machine. Not that it means a whole lot until you get to 20 games or so but #1 in pairwise too. Already a whole game ahead of the NEHC field with second place needing at least a road win and tie to pass them. Next best is already two games out and it's not very likely Hobart is going to get swept when they visit #3 in January. As far as March 2025 goes, anybody who appeared to have been a legitimate threat in the NCAA's over the last two seasons seems to have lost a step.

Have wanted to take in this show in person on the date they visited the Capitol District for each of the last two years but something got in the way both times. One year it was passing on a 35 mile drive each way over icy snow packed roads with below zero temperatures and the other it was a family thing. This year they are here twice and if it don't happen this time it never will.

To the best of my knowledge, after everybody is done conference hopping at the end of this season, Hobart will never again appear in the Capitol District for the foreseeable future unless they book a non conference game at virtually equally close Williams or MCLA in the very next town (both unlikely).
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Pairwise is irrelevant, the committee isn't using it anymore
 
tony/troy said:
To the best of my knowledge, after everybody is done conference hopping at the end of this season, Hobart will never again appear in the Capitol District for the foreseeable future unless they book a non conference game at virtually equally close Williams or MCLA in the very next town (both unlikely).
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Are you referring to Skidmore? Because Skidmore is joining the SUNYAC along with Hobart in 2025-26.
 
Pioneer247 said:
Pairwise is irrelevant, the committee isn't using it anymore
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Pairwise is most definitely not irrelevant regardless of what some committee does or does not do with it. Just as is the case in D1 and with enough games played (about 20), it is both an excellent and reliable tool that tells you just who is who and who can do along with who isn't who and who can't do.

Since pairwise came to be around the turn of the century and has been continuously tweaked and refined since, it has virtually totally eradicated any controversy and bickering over the field selected for the D1 NCAA tournament. All anybody whines about these days is what regional their team was sent too!!!

Just what is the committee doing instead of going with something that has proven reliable??? Something like the total joke the D1 football people are engaged in???
 
tony/troy said:
Pairwise is most definitely not irrelevant regardless of what some committee does or does not do with it. Just as is the case in D1 and with enough games played (about 20), it is both an excellent and reliable tool that tells you just who is who and who can do along with who isn't who and who can't do.

Since pairwise came to be around the turn of the century and has been continuously tweaked and refined since, it has virtually totally eradicated any controversy and bickering over the field selected for the D1 NCAA tournament. All anybody whines about these days is what regional their team was sent too!!!

Just what is the committee doing instead of going with something that has proven reliable??? Something like the total joke the D1 football people are engaged in???
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They are now using the NPI, a different set of numbers and calculations. PWR means nothing now in D3.
 
NPI was used for D3 Football this year to set up brackets and it materially varied from the traditional polls. Interestingly, though , for the round of 32 , the NPI was better at predicting games than either the Coaches poll or the D3Football.com poll. It will be interesting to see the impact on D3 Hockey.
Hobart and Skidmore moving to the SUNYAC will be more favorable for the travel schedule and some nice rivalries will grow, although there will be an interest in keeping some of the of the NE teams on the schedule. Coach Taylor keeps reloading even with the loss of some great scorers and defenders. Consistent goaltending as Beaver and Mavrik are splitting game starts right now and both look as good as ever. Elmira this weekend is always a challenge.
 
Back to the world of Hobart Hockey's journey to a hopeful three-peat. At Manhattanville's Playland Ice in Rye, NY tonight. This used to be the site of some classic rivalry games between the Statesman and the Valients. Statesmen were back on campus getting ready for the 2025 portion of the season with the goal to win the NEHC in their last season before their slot in the SUNYAC next year with Skidmore. Statesmen should not overlook Manhattanville on their home ice and keep focused because that new NPI rating is always watching.
 
Hobart beats the Valiants 3-0 and remain undefeated on the season at 11-0. With St. Norberts 2 losses this weekend, Hobart moves up to #1 in the NPI rankings. Beaver gets the shutout and the Hobart defense was very impressive. So far so good.
 
Bartman said:
Hobart beats the Valiants 3-0 and remain undefeated on the season at 11-0. With St. Norberts 2 losses this weekend, Hobart moves up to #1 in the NPI rankings. Beaver gets the shutout and the Hobart defense was very impressive. So far so good.
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Beaver hasn't graduated yet..?

Well, s***. :(
 
Skidmore takes a 3-1 lead in the third , but Hobart comes roaring back with the four last goals in the third period and wins 5-3. Tomorrows game should be intense after Statement go 12-0 on the season
 
Bartman said:
Skidmore takes a 3-1 lead in the third , but Hobart comes roaring back with the four last goals in the third period and wins 5-3. Tomorrows game should be intense after Statement go 12-0 on the season
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Indeed!!! Forecast of a storm turned out to be killer flurries so a 35 mile trip to see what last lost more than a calendar year ago looks doable. First time taking in this show in person and looking forward to it.

Not so the rink which was already a dump only newer when a travel league team I was on played and handily beat a Skidmore club hockey team at least a half century ago. At least I think it's the same place.

Also, no trip to tourist trap city can go without a pre or post game visit downtown. That's where a "designer" pizza with a drink or two is approaches $40 or a Captain's Platter at the seafood joint with drinks is over $50!!! Any fans or players families that spent the weekend there complete with a hotel stay will probably check out with a glazed zombie look when they get a receipt for their stay. The damned total on it will seem like railroad car numbers. Not your typical run of the mill D3 town!!!
 
tony/troy said:
Indeed!!! Forecast of a storm turned out to be killer flurries so a 35 mile trip to see what last lost more than a calendar year ago looks doable. First time taking in this show in person and looking forward to it.

Not so the rink which was already a dump only newer when a travel league team I was on played and handily beat a Skidmore club hockey team at least a half century ago. At least I think it's the same place.

Also, no trip to tourist trap city can go without a pre or post game visit downtown. That's where a "designer" pizza with a drink or two is approaches $40 or a Captain's Platter at the seafood joint with drinks is over $50!!! Any fans or players families that spent the weekend there complete with a hotel stay will probably check out with a glazed zombie look when they get a receipt for their stay. The damned total on it will seem like railroad car numbers. Not your typical run of the mill D3 town!!!
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Sounds like a Yelp post Tony. Did you go to the game, ha? Hobart gets out of Thoroughbred town with two wins and both Hobart goalies were challenged and took some stats hits. That said , good to be tested by a tough Skidmore squad and come back from deficits on the winning side.Hobart goes to 13-0, but looking less invincible than before this weekend.
 
Bartman said:
Sounds like a Yelp post Tony. Did you go to the game, ha? Hobart gets out of Thoroughbred town with two wins and both Hobart goalies were challenged and took some stats hits. That said , good to be tested by a tough Skidmore squad and come back from deficits on the winning side.Hobart goes to 13-0, but looking less invincible than before this weekend.
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Yes I did. Not an authority on hockey rink ice maintenance but, unfortunately, the ice appeared to be in deplorable condition. Pucks were literally bouncing around like those super balls kids used to play with back in the day. Nobody is going to be able to put on the kind of show they are capable of under those conditions.

It turned out that Skidmore's present rink is not the one I played in according to a older local I struck up a conversation with in the lobby between periods. Virtually everybody there heads to the heated lobby between periods as it is that cold there (Cooler East!!!). The old rink was on a different street in a different part of town and was torn down circa 1980 or so. The present one isn't that much of an improvement.

Watched the game with a Hobart alum and athlete from the early 70's that I met who drove to the game from his home in New Hampshire. This guy has a good grasp as to how to handle Saratoga dining expense levels. He both stopped for lunch on the way to the game and would stop for dinner on the way home in Rutland, Vt!!! In Rutland he probably did both for the $57 I spent on a post game Saratoga seafood platter. One loyal alum. Said he was planning to do the same drive when Hobart baseball comes to the Capital District to play both RPI and Skidmore in mid April.

Nonetheless, enjoyed the game and glad I went to finally see these guys play in person. Even on a weekend when things were a little off, they are still damned good.
 
Nice recap . I heard the ice was suboptimal. Not their best weekend, but glad you made it to the show. I’m looking forward to the Babson and Norwich series.
 
Hobart takes on Fredonia and Buffalo State on the road this weekend .Eight skaters with over ten points YTD showing the diversity of offense from the Statesmen. Beaver and Maverik continue to split time in goal , both barely giving up one goal per game. Mark Taylor is a master at keeping the talent fresh and engaged.
 
Hobart goes 2-0 on the weekend and 15-0 on season. Beaver and Maverick each earn a shutout. This team just does their jobs, and keeps grinding.
 
Bartman said:
Hobart goes 2-0 on the weekend and 15-0 on season. Beaver and Maverick each earn a shutout. This team just does their jobs, and keeps grinding.
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Believe Norwich was Hobart’s last non-win. Cadets have opened up a mini-hot streak last 2 weeks, but against some of the teams towards the bottom of the standings. Now they face Goliath. Ellsworth probably has the best record against Hobart over the last six years than anyone. We’ll see how they fare.
 
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