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Hey Massachusetts! Coakley or Brown?

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McCain was the "pity" nominee. It was his turn.
And he lost the minute Obama finished ahead of Mrs. C in any Dem primary.

McCain couldn't have won with Jesus Christ as his veep nominee.

Because he's a decent human being with bilateral support who survived something none of us could?

Palin was a giant anchor.
 
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So, what do you think Arlen Spector was thinking this morning?

Is he going to become a Tory now? He can waste everyone's time by whining about Chelsea doing something untoward in the transfer market and how it affects his friends in Setanta.

He should just found his own party and take that jackanape Lieberman with him into the abyss.
 
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So, what do you think Arlen Spector was thinking this morning?

"what time is lunch today?"

Because he's a decent human being with bilateral support who survived something none of us could?

Palin was a giant anchor.

W was the anchor. dems could have run a monkey and a whale and beat herbert hoover jr.
 
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"what time is lunch today?"



W was the anchor. dems could have run a monkey and a whale and beat herbert hoover jr.

A monkey flinging poop would have made a great debate opponent for Palin or Biden. Think about it.
 
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A monkey flinging poop would have made a great debate opponent for Palin or Biden. Think about it.

i am not going to say that i wouldn't have tuned in to see that...:eek: , but again, ANYONE would have won under the D heading running in 08 (why, even marcia coakley:cool: )
 
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Because he's a decent human being with bilateral support who survived something none of us could?

Palin was a giant anchor.

That must have been why McCain never fundraised as well as he did once he brought her on board.

Come on, Jon, you're smarter than that.
 
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That must have been why McCain never fundraised as well as he did once he brought her on board.

Come on, Jon, you're smarter than that.

mccain also won primaries in states that never go R. huckster won southern states, mittster won west. then mccain won CA and NY and those other D states on super tuesday and mitt suspended and everyone realized they were going to lose anyhow.
 
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Here are my VA stories just from the past seven days.

I got a call from my provider on Friday seeking to set me up with a pre-colonoscopy appointment for this week. I let them know that I would be in the area near the medical center on Thursday, so that would work out perfectly. They agreed, and everything's hunky-dory, right?

Monday I get an automated call from the VA reminding me of my appointment on Wednesday (which is today). Yeah, imagine my shock. I spend two days trying to reach the gastroentrology clinic to rectify the problem. First, the number on the VAMC's website for gastroentrology connected me with an answering machine at hematology/oncology. Oops. Second, the appointment system (automated) only allows you to find out when your appointment is or cancel it, not move it. Pushing "0" for an operator led to a phone that rang forever with no one picking it up and no answering machine. Finally, the extension number that I managed to find for gastroentrology from another source took me directly to that same automated appointment system.

Fortunately, I got a second call yesterday afternoon, this time from the people at gastroentrology, reminding me that I had an appointment for Wednesday. I had the chance to explain that I would not be around on Wednesday and fortunately the time I'd agreed to for Thursday was still available. So it got fixed after two days of trying to fix it.

That's not all. Yesterday I also received a survey in the mail asking me questions about my "recent visit to the VA facility listed below." It listed East Orange, NJ medical clinic, 19 November 2009." I've never been to East Orange, NJ, let alone their VA clinic, and was nowhere near the VA system in general on that date.

And mind you, these stories are only from the past week. It took me over six months after my return from my tour of duty just to be seen for a possibly service-related medical condition.

Hey, great story! Sounds like a success story that I think all Americans would love to be involved with, don't you? ;)

I think I'll go with Olbermann's opinion on Brown, especially after hearing him try to get his daughter's married last night.

That comment led you to believe he encourages violence against women and Democrats now, did it? lol Get real - you wouldn't even be commenting on this if it were in the middle of a concession speech instead of a victory speech.

I don't care if it was funny or not. And reports show that at least one of the daughters was not amused.

It wasn't appropriate.

But I'll meet you halfway here. My take on the whole thing was his blond daughter is dating someone he doesn't approve of, and is sending a between the lines message to her on national TV. Kinda below the belt to tell his daughter to "dump that guy" in a veiled manner in front of however many millions. Anyway, that was the impression I got from his words, her body language, and then him backing off and offering a fist bump as an apology - but with my nuance skill set, I'm probably way off base, haha....

At any rate - much like using a cigar as a prop while cheating on the First Lady, it's a private family affair, none of my business. It has nothing to do with the nation's issues.

I take care of folks covered by the VA. They get good care and more importantly they get their meds and visits. In my area there is no such thing as not waiting. We have no open primary docs so everyone waits, the practices are overloaded, the ERs are too. Many of my patients can not afford the most basic meds. I totally disagree that the meds prescribed by the VA are suboptimal. Just because they are generic (mostly) does not mean they do not work. Can't think of a person I have seen that I would prescribe something different than what they were on to begin with. Their chronic care is in many cases superior to what my working class population can afford and they would snap up a chance to take your place.

You take care of folks covered by the VA, you say.... in other words, they still need to seek crusaders like yourself out in the private sector despite that great VA coverage you speak of? Les... don't play dumb on me here.

If the "public option for veterans" system, the VA, was such a success - or even if it were slightly inferior to - then it would be the poster child of Obamacare. The fact that Reid and Pelosi aren't highlighting the small-scale socialized health care system is because it sucks. This is not a topic of debate for VA patients or people in the health care field, whether it be those in the VA system itself or your coworkers that you eat lunch with in the private sector. You know it yourself, but your ideology and/or political party affiliations won't let you admit it publically. (Which is harming the patients you provide care for, by the way. I give you props for admitting you are close-minded and don't give a sh** what opponents of Obama say - but morally and ethically speaking, perhaps it's time you ought to listen to opposing view points and start thinking for yourself. Think with logic, not with emotion.)

Don't tell me the quality of VA health care is in any way comparable to the private sector. Don't tell me the waiting list in the private sector is anywhere close to what the VA's waiting list is. Don't complain about the ER traffic in Mass, that exploded once the state socialized the industry. The ER traffic is fine 40 miles north of Boston. Don't try and tell me the VA gives access to the latest and greatest meds as a normal practice, they don't. Don't try and tell me people would love to have access to the VA system - anyone that's experienced both would disagree with you, any you know that. Everyone in the health care industry, VA or your lunchmates in the private sector, would disagree with you and you know that.

You know the bottom line is that the government run VA health care system is inferior in every aspect to the private sector - I know you know that, everyone does. And it has less than 1% of the load that the private sector does, and it has no impetus to operate within the bounds of fiscal responsibility.

If you ever watched the news in the past 5 or 6 years and saw a segment about the VA health care system, you'd agree with me that the report is always focusing on just how lousy government-run health care is.

Defending the quality of the VA health care system is the same as calling the Titanic unsinkable.... 90 minutes after she struck the iceberg.

The sick and dangerous thing is, Congress and that clown in the White House are trying increase the scope of their lousy socialized health care system by a factor of over 100.... to a country that doesn't even want it.
 
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Hospitals who take $ from the govt are required to have a pool of $ to provide care for those who are financially in bad shape but not qualifying for other programs. If you qualify it cover any tests, treatments given, ER visit. It does not cover any of the MDs who treat you, pay for the surgeon, anesthetist or any billable stuff that is outside of the hospital. If you have free care you can go to the ER, get tests done, get admitted and have surgery. You have to pay the Docs but the other stuff is covered. This also covers stuff if I were to order it at my office.

This program has been around since I went to school 30+ yrs ago until the must have insurance program came about. Not sure what they do because as far as I know, they are still required to have the cash at hand but I don't know how they dole it out. There was a lot of talk about whether the hosp should be required to report uninsured individuals who showed up but I have no idea what happened with that.

So in other words, the Mass. legislature totally screwed up by not considering the consequences of what they were doing when they mandated health insurance. Color me surprised. :rolleyes:
 
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gregg- without quoting the whole thing- the folks I see from the VA are usually seen for emergent visits- flu, respiratory stuff. I haven't ever felt like I needed to crusade for them.

Other than that you may continue to project what you want about what I think and why I think it if it makes you feel superior. I am always happy to learn that things about myself that I never knew, that I thought things I never considered. Very enlightening.
 
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So in other words, the Mass. legislature totally screwed up by not considering the consequences of what they were doing when they mandated health insurance. Color me surprised. :rolleyes:

I :rolleyes: right back. It was like watching a runaway train. Romney wanted it passed before he bolted to run for president. The rest of them I can't imagine what they were thinking! (OK, maybe that is giving them credit for thinking!)
 
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speaking of the health care system, saw a funny ad for a hospital system here in Florida. the ad touted a texting system so you could find out how long the wait was at the emergency room before you came in. if you're thinking about the wait ITS NOT AN EMERGENCY!! doh! use the walk in clinic!
 
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speaking of the health care system, saw a funny ad for a hospital system here in Florida. the ad touted a texting system so you could find out how long the wait was at the emergency room before you came in. if you're thinking about the wait ITS NOT AN EMERGENCY!! doh! use the walk in clinic!

In America the Emergency Room is the Health Care system.
 
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maybe that's why it's so expensive!

No one cares how expensive it is, they only care how expensive their taxes are. Best bet to get Health Care under control is to get the government completely out of it, the emergency room problem is minor.
 
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No one cares how expensive it is, they only care how expensive their taxes are. Best bet to get Health Care under control is to get the government completely out of it, the emergency room problem is minor.

Wow. Scooby and I agree on something.
 
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In America the Emergency Room is the Health Care system.

That's true. Even other clinics have refered my kids to the ER several times. I especially loved the time they gave my boy some pain medication and came back to do the procedure after the pain med wore off.
 
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No one cares how expensive it is,r.

Didn't you think when Obama started the rush toward health care reform, the first thing he'd do was address costs? I know I did and I think a majority of Americans want the issue of increasing costs addressed before anything else
 
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