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He's dead, Jim.

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No good news about Jim Kelly. :(

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10678539&src=desktop

Doctors treating former Buffalo Bills quarterback Jim Kelly for oral cancer have canceled surgery but will proceed with chemotherapy and radiation treatment, his wife announced Wednesday.

"At this point and time surgery is not the best option for Jim," Jill Kelly wrote on her Facebook page. "The cancer is in areas that surgery cannot successfully eradicate."

"Jim Kelly's condition remains very treatable and potentially curable," said Dr. Peter D. Costantino, who will direct Kelly's treatment at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City. "Our immediate focus is on controlling his pain and beginning the process of eradicating the cancer."
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Brenthoven said:
Man, I hope he makes it through this. You want to talk about being a MAN. Like, old-school Frank Sinatra style MAN, and not some pansy-arse whiner? Jim's a man's man. This article about him backs up everything I just said:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...rback-jim-kelly-patiently-endures-cancer-loss
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I knew he had been through some things, but I didn't realize the half of it. Now here's a guy people should point to when looking for a role model for their kids.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Man, I hope he makes it through this. You want to talk about being a MAN. Like, old-school Frank Sinatra style MAN, and not some pansy-arse whiner? Jim's a man's man. This article about him backs up everything I just said:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...rback-jim-kelly-patiently-endures-cancer-loss
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Mein Gott. I had no idea. I watched Jim when he was with the Houston Gamblers running Jack Pardee's Red Gun offense. His game was incredibly impressive in person, much more so than on TV. The guy fired lasers. I'll be praying for him.
 
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Jeremiah Denton. Senator, Admiral, Hero and POW who had the presence of mind to blink out "t-o-r-t-u-r-e" during a North Vietnamese dog and pony show interview. He endured 7 years of h*ll as an NVA prisoner, much of it in a cell no bigger than a refrigerator. But he never gave the b*stards anything! Admiral, you honored America with your service. Rest well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/29/u...-senator-dies-at-89.html?rref=obituaries&_r=0
 
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Old Pio said:
Jeremiah Denton. Senator, Admiral, Hero and POW who had the presence of mind to blink out "t-o-r-t-u-r-e" during a North Vietnamese dog and pony show interview. He endured 7 years of h*ll as an NVA prisoner, much of it in a cell no bigger than a refrigerator. But he never gave the b*stards anything! Admiral, you honored America with your service. Rest well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/29/u...-senator-dies-at-89.html?rref=obituaries&_r=0
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Makes me think that the media throws around the word 'hero' a bit too casually. If all the times they use that word simply for someone doing the job expected of them(and being paid for) then what do you call what this courageous exceptional fellow should be called? How about 'superhero'?
 
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DrDemento said:
Makes me think that the media throws around the word 'hero' a bit too casually. If all the times they use that word simply for someone doing the job expected of them(and being paid for) then what do you call what this courageous exceptional fellow should be called? How about 'superhero'?
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What Adm. Denton and his fellow POW's held by the North Vietnamese went beyond heroic or even super-heroic, as were those men who survived Japanese treatment in WW II. Marcus Luttrell could be called a super-hero, but he would likely be the first to deny that what he did was heroic.

There is an argument going on today in the Toronto papers after a police officer was shot yesterday by a gunman trying to gain entrance to the courthouse in Brampton. He survived, but the bad guy is at room temperature. Now, the discussion in the comments -- is the officer a hero who prevented a potential rampage, or was he just doing the job he is well paid to perform?

Having done "the job" for 21 years, I think he'd say the same thing that Marcus Luttrell would say. Others would say different.
 
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SteveP said:
What Adm. Denton and his fellow POW's held by the North Vietnamese went beyond heroic or even super-heroic, as were those men who survived Japanese treatment in WW II. Marcus Luttrell could be called a super-hero, but he would likely be the first to deny that what he did was heroic.

There is an argument going on today in the Toronto papers after a police officer was shot yesterday by a gunman trying to gain entrance to the courthouse in Brampton. He survived, but the bad guy is at room temperature. Now, the discussion in the comments -- is the officer a hero who prevented a potential rampage, or was he just doing the job he is well paid to perform?

Having done "the job" for 21 years, I think he'd say the same thing that Marcus Luttrell would say. Others would say different.
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My father earned a silver star in the pacific but rarely spoke about it. When he did, he just said he did what his duty required of him. There are certainly many thousands like that who serve and have served in defense of our country, but I wonder if more from the WW2 generation had that outlook. I mean, it was an attitude with which they approached the challenges they faced in civilian life as well and the sacrifices they were required to make. That observation is anecdotal, of course, and possibly hogwash.
 
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burd said:
My father earned a silver star in the pacific but rarely spoke about it. When he did, he just said he did what his duty required of him. There are certainly many thousands like that who serve and have served in defense of our country, but I wonder if more from the WW2 generation had that outlook. I mean, it was an attitude with which they approached the challenges they faced in civilian life as well and the sacrifices they were required to make. That observation is anecdotal, of course, and possibly hogwash.
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If you father is anything like my grandfather (WWI) he'd be satisfied with being called a husband and a father and I surmise he excelled at both. God bless him.
 
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Scarlet said:
Oh wow. He was only 50. I remember seeing his stand up. He had this bit about eating at a Chinese buffet and the manager screaming at him "YOU GO NOW! YOU BEEN HERE 4 OWAHS!!" He was funny.
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"EAT VEG-A-TA-BULL! YOU SO BEEG!"

He was hilarious.
 
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