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Re: He says he's not dead.
I have nothing but admiration for our colleagues who are speaking out on their personal experiences in the wake of Seau's death. Even so, I would urge caution about concluding what explains this act, absent more information. It could well be he and Dave Duerson had the same outcome in mind. But we don't know that yet. There will be plenty of time to draw our conclusions once we know more. Although police are investigating this incident as a suicide, are we absolutely positive that's what it was?
For now, we've lost one of the greats. Far too soon. And his poor mother and siblings are left wondering why. Concussion induced depression or not, that's a sadness that won't soon go away.
Edit: The ME has confirmed it was suicide.
I have nothing but admiration for our colleagues who are speaking out on their personal experiences in the wake of Seau's death. Even so, I would urge caution about concluding what explains this act, absent more information. It could well be he and Dave Duerson had the same outcome in mind. But we don't know that yet. There will be plenty of time to draw our conclusions once we know more. Although police are investigating this incident as a suicide, are we absolutely positive that's what it was?
For now, we've lost one of the greats. Far too soon. And his poor mother and siblings are left wondering why. Concussion induced depression or not, that's a sadness that won't soon go away.
Edit: The ME has confirmed it was suicide.
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: He says he's not dead.
Was he shunning modern medicine for eastern remedies for his cancer, a la Steve Jobs?
Was he shunning modern medicine for eastern remedies for his cancer, a la Steve Jobs?
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: He says he's not dead.
Some people just aren't very bright.
Ya, because that jibberish works.
Some people just aren't very bright.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: He says he's not dead.
Yeah, I understand that, but opting out of it is basically saying that you're giving up, which might be what some people want, and that is their decision.
Don Imus says holistic treatment has pushed his colon cancer into remission.
IIRC Steve McQueen tried some radical treatment in Mexico but that didn't work so well.
Tough decision either way.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Some cancers go into remission, whether or not the patient tries conventional or "holistic medicine." That's why Cancer Treatment Centers of America spots (in small print say "no case is typical, you should not expect these results"). And if Imus had conventional treatment THEN herbs, etc, who's to say which modality, if either, is responsible for his "cure." The nice thing about cancer quacks is that only the survivors are there to tell the wonderful stories of miracle "cures," and medical records are never available for review. One true test of quackery is anyone selling "one cause, one cure." Like chiropractic.
Steve McQueen wound up in Mexico, taking coffee enemas. I don't think so.
Some cancers go into remission, whether or not the patient tries conventional or "holistic medicine." That's why Cancer Treatment Centers of America spots (in small print say "no case is typical, you should not expect these results"). And if Imus had conventional treatment THEN herbs, etc, who's to say which modality, if either, is responsible for his "cure." The nice thing about cancer quacks is that only the survivors are there to tell the wonderful stories of miracle "cures," and medical records are never available for review. One true test of quackery is anyone selling "one cause, one cure." Like chiropractic.
Steve McQueen wound up in Mexico, taking coffee enemas. I don't think so.
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state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Re: He says he's not dead.
I think there isn't one single part of this post that I would disagree with. I have always felt that at best the practice of medicine was 75% science, 20% art and 5% luck. One of the problems is the media-which always portrays the miracles on the national news. They never seem to give the overall statistics and survival rates. If there were so many magic cures, why is it that the super wealthy (Sam Walton, Steve Jobs, and lot of entertainment superstars) still seem to die of the same diagnoses at the same age as the rest of us?
I think there isn't one single part of this post that I would disagree with. I have always felt that at best the practice of medicine was 75% science, 20% art and 5% luck. One of the problems is the media-which always portrays the miracles on the national news. They never seem to give the overall statistics and survival rates. If there were so many magic cures, why is it that the super wealthy (Sam Walton, Steve Jobs, and lot of entertainment superstars) still seem to die of the same diagnoses at the same age as the rest of us?
Re: He says he's not dead.
Doc, you're the only poster for whom this annecdote will mean anything. My old man played a small role in bringing the Durovic brothers to justice for peddling their totally worthless cancer cure called Krebiozen in the 50's and 60's. Remember? The only "active" ingredient in the stuff was the amino acid creatine, and some samples didn't even have that. My father got some of the stuff and passed it on to the feds. The Durovics had a doctor by the name of Andrew Ivy fronting for them. Ivy headed the medical school at the University of Illinois and was a huge national figure. My old man believed Ivy was gulled by the thought of a Nobel Prize glittering in his future. That and the fact that he was senile. My father told me of watching Ivy "scrub" to give an injection of this worthless preparation. Gown? Gloves? Mask? For an injection?
Ultimately, the Durovics and Ivy wound up in court, but the jury hung. My father thought it was because the prosecutors were too hard on Ivy, a kind of befuddled old man for whom the jurors evidently felt sorry. But the use and sale of Krebiozen were hugely reduced. Got no idea if it's still out there. Maybe at Mexican clinics. This stuff was the laetrile of its day, and equally effective. Zero.
Doc, you're the only poster for whom this annecdote will mean anything. My old man played a small role in bringing the Durovic brothers to justice for peddling their totally worthless cancer cure called Krebiozen in the 50's and 60's. Remember? The only "active" ingredient in the stuff was the amino acid creatine, and some samples didn't even have that. My father got some of the stuff and passed it on to the feds. The Durovics had a doctor by the name of Andrew Ivy fronting for them. Ivy headed the medical school at the University of Illinois and was a huge national figure. My old man believed Ivy was gulled by the thought of a Nobel Prize glittering in his future. That and the fact that he was senile. My father told me of watching Ivy "scrub" to give an injection of this worthless preparation. Gown? Gloves? Mask? For an injection?
Ultimately, the Durovics and Ivy wound up in court, but the jury hung. My father thought it was because the prosecutors were too hard on Ivy, a kind of befuddled old man for whom the jurors evidently felt sorry. But the use and sale of Krebiozen were hugely reduced. Got no idea if it's still out there. Maybe at Mexican clinics. This stuff was the laetrile of its day, and equally effective. Zero.
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Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Lillian Musial
Wife of Stan. She was 91.
I post that to say this: keep an eye on Stan now. They were married almost 72 years.
Lillian Musial
Wife of Stan. She was 91.
I post that to say this: keep an eye on Stan now. They were married almost 72 years.
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I had a fraternity brother from southern Illinois who told me of going to Stan and Biggies, Musial's restaurant, and seeing in a case SEVEN SILVER BATS! Blessings to the both of them.
I had a fraternity brother from southern Illinois who told me of going to Stan and Biggies, Musial's restaurant, and seeing in a case SEVEN SILVER BATS! Blessings to the both of them.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Not yet. The third one might still be Gibbs.
EDIT: I was looking elsewhere to see just how long people have stayed married. There's one couple that was married 91 years.
The longest living married couple have been together over 87 years. That's just mind-blowing.
Not yet. The third one might still be Gibbs.
EDIT: I was looking elsewhere to see just how long people have stayed married. There's one couple that was married 91 years.
The longest living married couple have been together over 87 years. That's just mind-blowing.
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Gurtholfin
Guest
Re: He says he's not dead.
I wonder about that when the baldness cure commercials come on. Why would any of these rich and famous people be bald if it works?
Hmmmmmm.....
I wonder about that when the baldness cure commercials come on. Why would any of these rich and famous people be bald if it works?
Hmmmmmm.....
Re: He says he's not dead.
Patrick Stewart, Michael Jordan, Bryan Cranston, etc might like to have a word with you. Sometimes being bald is a better look.
Patrick Stewart, Michael Jordan, Bryan Cranston, etc might like to have a word with you. Sometimes being bald is a better look.
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
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