Watson Rink
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Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Time to let Kylie play?
Time to let Kylie play?
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Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
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Watson Rink
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Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Think Pucci may have played F as well as D at Choate, presumably for those very reasons. However, with two D graduating and only two arriving, but four F arriving and only two graduating, it may not be feasible to move Pucci up front next year
Think Pucci may have played F as well as D at Choate, presumably for those very reasons. However, with two D graduating and only two arriving, but four F arriving and only two graduating, it may not be feasible to move Pucci up front next year
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Great game by our girls tonight. From the opening whistle, they came hard at BC and never let up. It took a while to put one past Boyle but once they solved her, it was over. BC never had a chance. They are almost as bad as Union in the offensive zone and just as bad in the defensive zone. Couldn't believe how many open looks we got at their goalie.
Ryabkina had one of those special games topped off by a Lane MacDonald highlight reel goal to finish the scoring. It was set play up the boards as BC's D were caught flatfooted all night and on this occasion, were simply out of position. Ryabkina flew by and made a gorgeous move to draw the puck back and over the goalie. Just amazing.
All the forwards played very well tonight forechecking BC to death and pressuring the puck all night. This game was not as close as the score might indicate. It was a rout and total domination by the Crimson.
Had a chance to sit with Joe Bertagna during the Northeastern-BU tilt (that was a barnburner) and found out something interesting. The Beanpot will have shootouts in the semis from now on because of the triple OT game that Harvard and BC played in '07. This puts Harvard at a distinct disadvantage because we don't use the shootout in the ECAC. The first game was decided by a shootout with Northeastern potting two goals to win it. I wonder if the ECAC will adopt this strategy next season. I'm assuming that shootouts won't be permitted in the NCAA tournament.
Great game by our girls tonight. From the opening whistle, they came hard at BC and never let up. It took a while to put one past Boyle but once they solved her, it was over. BC never had a chance. They are almost as bad as Union in the offensive zone and just as bad in the defensive zone. Couldn't believe how many open looks we got at their goalie.
Ryabkina had one of those special games topped off by a Lane MacDonald highlight reel goal to finish the scoring. It was set play up the boards as BC's D were caught flatfooted all night and on this occasion, were simply out of position. Ryabkina flew by and made a gorgeous move to draw the puck back and over the goalie. Just amazing.
All the forwards played very well tonight forechecking BC to death and pressuring the puck all night. This game was not as close as the score might indicate. It was a rout and total domination by the Crimson.
Had a chance to sit with Joe Bertagna during the Northeastern-BU tilt (that was a barnburner) and found out something interesting. The Beanpot will have shootouts in the semis from now on because of the triple OT game that Harvard and BC played in '07. This puts Harvard at a distinct disadvantage because we don't use the shootout in the ECAC. The first game was decided by a shootout with Northeastern potting two goals to win it. I wonder if the ECAC will adopt this strategy next season. I'm assuming that shootouts won't be permitted in the NCAA tournament.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Maybe not next year but I would bet before she finishes playing at Harvard, she will be up front. Remember that's how Ryabkina started and look how that's working out for her now that she is up front.
Maybe not next year but I would bet before she finishes playing at Harvard, she will be up front. Remember that's how Ryabkina started and look how that's working out for her now that she is up front.
alslammerz
Harvard Hockey Broadcaster '09-'12
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
I knew about the shootouts but didn't realize they were unknown to anyone else.
You'd be surprised, I think Harvard would be competitive in the shootout. They have talented forwards, a good goalie, and IIRC from last year's interview with Anna McDonald, they do end practice with shootouts a lot, upperclassmen versus the rookies.
Also give credit to BC's goaltender. As you said, this game was far more lopsided than 5-0, but she made 46 saves. Could have been worse. Will be interesting to see next week's game. Harvard played well and Northeastern still must lack confidence after their only Beanpot "win" (which counts as a tie in the standings) for their seniors came after seeing a 4-0 lead disappear and having to go to the shootout.
I knew about the shootouts but didn't realize they were unknown to anyone else.
You'd be surprised, I think Harvard would be competitive in the shootout. They have talented forwards, a good goalie, and IIRC from last year's interview with Anna McDonald, they do end practice with shootouts a lot, upperclassmen versus the rookies.
Also give credit to BC's goaltender. As you said, this game was far more lopsided than 5-0, but she made 46 saves. Could have been worse. Will be interesting to see next week's game. Harvard played well and Northeastern still must lack confidence after their only Beanpot "win" (which counts as a tie in the standings) for their seniors came after seeing a 4-0 lead disappear and having to go to the shootout.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Actually it might light a fire under their butts. That's happened in two big games this year, I doubt they want it to happen again in this circumstance.
Actually it might light a fire under their butts. That's happened in two big games this year, I doubt they want it to happen again in this circumstance.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
I'm sure Harvard has the talent to do well in shootouts now. But having several meaningful shootouts in Hockey East play has to give the Hockey East schools an advantage relative to their talent. You can't simulate the pressure in practice.
That said, I'm willing to accept the semis and 3rd place being decided by the shootout. But not the championship, that'd be absurd.
Sure, they were unknown to everyone else, because the Beanpot doesn't exactly widely publicize its rule changes.
I'm sure Harvard has the talent to do well in shootouts now. But having several meaningful shootouts in Hockey East play has to give the Hockey East schools an advantage relative to their talent. You can't simulate the pressure in practice.
That said, I'm willing to accept the semis and 3rd place being decided by the shootout. But not the championship, that'd be absurd.
Watson Rink
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Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Guess we're lucky that the Ukraine doesn't have an Olympic hockey team?
Guess we're lucky that the Ukraine doesn't have an Olympic hockey team?
ManBehindTheCurtain
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Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I don't much care for shoot outs either but if the world championship can be settled in a shootout then I think it is an exaggeration to describe the settling of a mid-season college hockey tournament by shootout as "absurd".
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Here's something else that happened at last night's Beanpot. During the third period of the Northeastern-BU game, a woman came up to Joe Bertagna to inquire as to why Julie Piacentini was one of the referees assigned to the game when she is a Northeastern grad. It didn't occur to me but I wondered how referees are assigned and does their undergrad affiliation matter? I know Billy C used to referee college games but I don't know if he did Harvard games or would have been allowed to given his affiliation with Harvard. Is this an issue in deciding who refs a particular game? I'm not asking for any nefarious reason a la Tim Donahy, the basketball ref who was caught betting on games. I'm just wondering if a person's undergrad affiliation makes a difference or is it so rare a conflict of interest that people don't really bother to factor it in when assigning officials?
Here's something else that happened at last night's Beanpot. During the third period of the Northeastern-BU game, a woman came up to Joe Bertagna to inquire as to why Julie Piacentini was one of the referees assigned to the game when she is a Northeastern grad. It didn't occur to me but I wondered how referees are assigned and does their undergrad affiliation matter? I know Billy C used to referee college games but I don't know if he did Harvard games or would have been allowed to given his affiliation with Harvard. Is this an issue in deciding who refs a particular game? I'm not asking for any nefarious reason a la Tim Donahy, the basketball ref who was caught betting on games. I'm just wondering if a person's undergrad affiliation makes a difference or is it so rare a conflict of interest that people don't really bother to factor it in when assigning officials?
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
It happens quite often in the women's game that an official is working a game participated in by their alma mater. I have seen many games in which this is the case, and can't think of a single time it's ever caused me to question a call. I would rather see a game in which every official on the ice played for the opposing team than one in which half of them are Silvas
It happens quite often in the women's game that an official is working a game participated in by their alma mater. I have seen many games in which this is the case, and can't think of a single time it's ever caused me to question a call. I would rather see a game in which every official on the ice played for the opposing team than one in which half of them are Silvas
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
While I often question their logic and eyesight, integrity is not something I have found to be lacking.
While I often question their logic and eyesight, integrity is not something I have found to be lacking.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Well I think that's also absurd. The NHL and the NCAA tournament have it right.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
The NHL uses shootouts during the regular season, and for all it's tradition, the Beanpot is a regular-season event.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
Wasn't there a gold medal game in the men's Olympics settled by a shootout? I think it was between Canada and Sweden and if I'm not mistaken, Peter Forsberg scored the winning goal in the shootout. I can't remember the year - perhaps in the 90's?
Are shootouts in place for the upcoming Olympics or have they done away with it for determining medal winners? Can you imagine if the 1980 Olympics were decided by a shootout? I shudder at the thought.
Wasn't there a gold medal game in the men's Olympics settled by a shootout? I think it was between Canada and Sweden and if I'm not mistaken, Peter Forsberg scored the winning goal in the shootout. I can't remember the year - perhaps in the 90's?
Are shootouts in place for the upcoming Olympics or have they done away with it for determining medal winners? Can you imagine if the 1980 Olympics were decided by a shootout? I shudder at the thought.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
The 1980 Olympics had no OT at all; ties were left as ties.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
As my mother used to say (and hers before that, etc):
"If your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you?"
As my mother used to say (and hers before that, etc):
"If your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you?"
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Harvard Crimson Women 09-10
I agree -- it is not real hockey. But IMO, it beats some of the more arbitrary methods for resolving ties that exist in the world of sport, such as my favorite, the coin flip.
Maybe -- is there a train coming?