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Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
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defkit
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
It's always interesting to see how things play out when players first start getting "ranked". Jake Wise for BU and Wahlstrom were both thought to be Top-5 picks a couple years ago. Wise is now a low first/early second, while Wahlstrom is a mid-to-late first rounder. Of course, they both could have monster U-18 seasons and get back up to the top 10. And then someone like Farabee for BU is now a top-5 when I don't think he was too high on the radar a couple years ago.
It's always interesting to see how things play out when players first start getting "ranked". Jake Wise for BU and Wahlstrom were both thought to be Top-5 picks a couple years ago. Wise is now a low first/early second, while Wahlstrom is a mid-to-late first rounder. Of course, they both could have monster U-18 seasons and get back up to the top 10. And then someone like Farabee for BU is now a top-5 when I don't think he was too high on the radar a couple years ago.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
For athletics, Harvard uses an Academic Index in their admissions which consider test scores and grade point average in the context of the student population. Each school does its own calculation and coaches are allowed to admit some number across a range of scores. Harvard, Yale and Princeton are the most difficult for an athlete. Cornell, not so. This academic index is very very strictly enforced. The reality is, the academically weakest athlete at these school, who are admitted, would rank at the top in academics at other schools. The Ivy League is need based only, as is Union. Colgate use to be need based but the Patriot League allowed scholarships a while back.
Colgate and the Patriot League, as well as the NESCAC (D-III) also have had academic indexes. Not as tough. Not sure they still do.
For athletics, Harvard uses an Academic Index in their admissions which consider test scores and grade point average in the context of the student population. Each school does its own calculation and coaches are allowed to admit some number across a range of scores. Harvard, Yale and Princeton are the most difficult for an athlete. Cornell, not so. This academic index is very very strictly enforced. The reality is, the academically weakest athlete at these school, who are admitted, would rank at the top in academics at other schools. The Ivy League is need based only, as is Union. Colgate use to be need based but the Patriot League allowed scholarships a while back.
Colgate and the Patriot League, as well as the NESCAC (D-III) also have had academic indexes. Not as tough. Not sure they still do.
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alslammerz
Harvard Hockey Broadcaster '09-'12
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
To further answer, one of the reasons Harvard has 23 recruits in the next few years is because they might not all make it past admissions especially in light of the Academic Index. So never take a Harvard commit too strongly until they actually are announced.
Also Harvard doesn't give out scholarships. Not academic, not athletic.
To further answer, one of the reasons Harvard has 23 recruits in the next few years is because they might not all make it past admissions especially in light of the Academic Index. So never take a Harvard commit too strongly until they actually are announced.
Also Harvard doesn't give out scholarships. Not academic, not athletic.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
I'm not surprised about Wahlstrom. He was the only 17yr old on a roster of 18 and 19yr olds.
I'm not surprised about Wahlstrom. He was the only 17yr old on a roster of 18 and 19yr olds.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Don't need to. They give aid. Unless you are above the "John Kerry super rich" line
)) Harvard picks up the bill. Convenient indeed.Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
"super rich" is all relative... Here is a financial aid calculator... You can play around with the numbers, but generally, if your family has income over $150K a year and has saved up $1mm, then you get nothing... Or if you have income >$200K and have not much in savings, you still get close to nothing... That is a lot of money for some people, but not exactly "super rich". And considering that tuition, room and board is $65K - that is over $100K of pre-tax income. So somebody who's family makes $200K is spending half their income on tuition... So you are better off having low income and getting free tuition, or being very wealthy (say >$500K) where it doesn't matter... Bottom line is the upper middle class are the ones getting squeezed...
https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator
Don't need to. They give aid. Unless you are above the "John Kerry super rich" line
"super rich" is all relative... Here is a financial aid calculator... You can play around with the numbers, but generally, if your family has income over $150K a year and has saved up $1mm, then you get nothing... Or if you have income >$200K and have not much in savings, you still get close to nothing... That is a lot of money for some people, but not exactly "super rich". And considering that tuition, room and board is $65K - that is over $100K of pre-tax income. So somebody who's family makes $200K is spending half their income on tuition... So you are better off having low income and getting free tuition, or being very wealthy (say >$500K) where it doesn't matter... Bottom line is the upper middle class are the ones getting squeezed...
https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator
Williams is as tough as it comes.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Thanks for making Mookie laugh with the "150k in income and 1mm saved"
If only......
Thanks for making Mookie laugh with the "150k in income and 1mm saved"
If only......
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
I really hope he stays and graduates on time but something tells me that two more years of escalating play will have Calgary calling on him to leave. This is the downside to recruiting blue chip prospects who take their game to the next level.
I really hope he stays and graduates on time but something tells me that two more years of escalating play will have Calgary calling on him to leave. This is the downside to recruiting blue chip prospects who take their game to the next level.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Update on Reilly Walsh from someone who knows him and has seen him play numerous times. Connected recently with a good friend who is a sports medicine guy - former PC hockey player who played pro in the Caps organization. He felt that while Reilly has all the tools, he could benefit from taking a gap year and waiting until the fall of '18 to enroll. Reason being is that he needs to fill out to compete at the D-1 level. My friend doesn't think he is going to be strong enough to deal with the likes of BC, BU or Cornell for that matter. Skill wise, he is an 'A' player but my friend who has seen players develop at different levels thinks that Walsh needs more seasoning. Just an FYI.
Update on Reilly Walsh from someone who knows him and has seen him play numerous times. Connected recently with a good friend who is a sports medicine guy - former PC hockey player who played pro in the Caps organization. He felt that while Reilly has all the tools, he could benefit from taking a gap year and waiting until the fall of '18 to enroll. Reason being is that he needs to fill out to compete at the D-1 level. My friend doesn't think he is going to be strong enough to deal with the likes of BC, BU or Cornell for that matter. Skill wise, he is an 'A' player but my friend who has seen players develop at different levels thinks that Walsh needs more seasoning. Just an FYI.
This is the route Jack Rathbone is taking. Coming to Harvard next year. There is a ton off depth on the Harvard blue line next year, but I will be surprised if Reilly is not a 3rd pairing defenseman and playing on the 2nd PP.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Agree. I expect he will be taking a number of the 2nd power plays. Teams are going to have to be super careful not to put us on the PP given our backline offensive firepower. That depth will also help when we have to kill penalties.
Agree. I expect he will be taking a number of the 2nd power plays. Teams are going to have to be super careful not to put us on the PP given our backline offensive firepower. That depth will also help when we have to kill penalties.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
A name to look out for is John Fusco. Has had a very good summer and is becoming a top prospect. Is a 2001 and is at Dexter with Jack Rathbone. There are strong Harvard blood lines here. Harvard has a lot of D committed, but have to think Harvard is front runner.
A name to look out for is John Fusco. Has had a very good summer and is becoming a top prospect. Is a 2001 and is at Dexter with Jack Rathbone. There are strong Harvard blood lines here. Harvard has a lot of D committed, but have to think Harvard is front runner.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Projected Harvard D lines next year:
1st Pairing - Marino and Sherman (same as last year)
2nd Pairing - Fox and Olson (same as last year)
3rd Pairing - Walsh and Dumbrovsky (insert Walsh for Clay Anderson)
Extras - Baughmann, Foley, Azar, Begoon, Aiken
Few teams in the NCAA will be able to throw a blue line like this. Harvard's strength will be on the blue line and in goal and much offense will come via the defense.
Projected Harvard D lines next year:
1st Pairing - Marino and Sherman (same as last year)
2nd Pairing - Fox and Olson (same as last year)
3rd Pairing - Walsh and Dumbrovsky (insert Walsh for Clay Anderson)
Extras - Baughmann, Foley, Azar, Begoon, Aiken
Few teams in the NCAA will be able to throw a blue line like this. Harvard's strength will be on the blue line and in goal and much offense will come via the defense.
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Projected Harvard forward lines next year:
1st Line - Badini - Donato - Zerter Gossage
2nd Line - Lloyd - Pelton Byce - Krusko
3rd Line - Gregoire - Perrault - Horton
4th Line - Kerfoot - Ellis - Floodstrand
Extras - Bowlby, Szeto, Solin, Donato
This team will be very different offensively from last year. I expect the PP to be very, very good given Donato and a multitude of D that can pass and shoot the puck. The 1st line should be very good, but the other lines are more about depth. Be interesting to see what strides some players (Krusko, Pelton Byce) can make in their 2nd years.
Projected Harvard forward lines next year:
1st Line - Badini - Donato - Zerter Gossage
2nd Line - Lloyd - Pelton Byce - Krusko
3rd Line - Gregoire - Perrault - Horton
4th Line - Kerfoot - Ellis - Floodstrand
Extras - Bowlby, Szeto, Solin, Donato
This team will be very different offensively from last year. I expect the PP to be very, very good given Donato and a multitude of D that can pass and shoot the puck. The 1st line should be very good, but the other lines are more about depth. Be interesting to see what strides some players (Krusko, Pelton Byce) can make in their 2nd years.
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
2017-2018 Team Bios are now online:
http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/2017-18/roster
2017-2018 Team Bios are now online:
http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/2017-18/roster
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Certainly not in the ECAC given the playoff experience from last season. Hey Nashville parlayed a strong puck moving D into a Stanley Cup finals appearance. This may be the way hockey is trending.
Certainly not in the ECAC given the playoff experience from last season. Hey Nashville parlayed a strong puck moving D into a Stanley Cup finals appearance. This may be the way hockey is trending.