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Harvard Crimson 2013-2014

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While this forum has been captured with BU, BC, Cornell, Union folk, to name a few, there has been much opinion about the quality of the brains of these Harvard kids. Go here, http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/2013-14/roster, and at the bottom of each players bio is his academic standing.

An example: Vesey- A high honors student in high school … Member of the Chinese National Honor Society … Peer Tutoring Award recipient in 2011 … Enjoys roller hockey, wiffleball and basketball … Father, Jim, played college hockey at Merrimack and went onto play for the NHL’s St. Louis Blues and Boston Bruins.

Check the rest if you want to understand the kids playing.
 
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Harvard hockey is likely no different than Harvard as an academic institution. Most undergrads are there on genuine academic merit. A non-trivial minority have cut the line based on something else -- money, a nice slap shot, etc. We will never know what the ratio is, so I am expertly estimating it as 80/20. :p
 
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It is interesting to see that both the Men's and Women's NCAA Champions are ECAC teams. Harvard women should be awesome next year with the return of the girls from the Olympics and with Katey Stone back behind the bench.
Now if Harvard could only replace Athletic Director Scalise with someone who cared about hockey we could be on the way back. Only under Scalise would the spare Zamboni be walled up and unusable for the entire season. Scalise should have been fired after the embarrassment of the Dartmouth game.
 
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Veritas said:
It is interesting to see that both the Men's and Women's NCAA Champions are ECAC teams. Harvard women should be awesome next year with the return of the girls from the Olympics and with Katey Stone back behind the bench.
Now if Harvard could only replace Athletic Director Scalise with someone who cared about hockey we could be on the way back. Only under Scalise would the spare Zamboni be walled up and unusable for the entire season. Scalise should have been fired after the embarrassment of the Dartmouth game.
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Harvard probably got more press going 1-1 in the basketball tournament (and probably more money for themselves and the Ivy League) then Union got for winning a national championship. Change that dynamic if you want an AD to care about hockey.
 
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Fortunato & Plant (According to Heisenberg's website) appear to be playing Juniors next year. Granted the timing of the AI issues may have been a problem with these guys finding a college home for this upcoming season (not to mention $ for a schollie), but I am optimistic that perhaps both want Harvard and are playing another year in order to improive their academic profile in order to get into Harvard.

Time will tell....
 
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Fortunato & Plant (According to Heisenberg's website) appear to be playing Juniors next year. Granted the timing of the AI issues may have been a problem with these guys finding a college home for this upcoming season (not to mention $ for a schollie), but I am optimistic that perhaps both want Harvard and are playing another year in order to improive their academic profile in order to get into Harvard.

Time will tell....
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Hopefully the latter.
 
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Looks like Jeremy Bracco may have de-committed and is now going to BC.

Huge loss. And I would expect other top recruits (fox, Woll, etc ) to all be at risk.

Given the recent admissions challenges and program track record, this should not be surprising to anyone.

The future does not look Bright. You can't win without the horses in the stable.
 
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bothman said:
Looks like Jeremy Bracco may have de-committed and is now going to BC.

Huge loss. And I would expect other top recruits (fox, Woll, etc ) to all be at risk.

Given the recent admissions challenges and program track record, this should not be surprising to anyone.

The future does not look Bright. You can't win without the horses in the stable.
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Blah.
 
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let them leave. if they value Harvard education tgat little, get lost
ask the Fusco's and 95% of guys from Donatos team how life is today. Go ask the guys fron BU or BC same years how life is
half are picking up pucks somewhere
 
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yet that shouldn't make harvard HOCKEY fans feel any better about the state of the program.
 
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to add to that, hoky, seems like you're saying harvard/donato has spent too much time targeting the wrong kids for harvard and that doing so can really set them back as a hockey team.
 
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he has had the talent. Did notice a little bit of a focus on reputation kids from when they were 16 or 17 vs trending blue chippers. also, many get hooked on internships and dont train as hard in summer, Harvard networking will cause a priority change.
BC/BU tend to stay hockey focussed 24/7

not a negative for Harvard
Colin Blackwell perfect example. blue chipper, gets hurt and has fully taken advantage of Opportunities. What does same kid do at BU/BC? I doubt reaction is to dive into academics
 
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nobody is putting down harvard as a school or what they stand for. i'm not sure why you're taking that angle. at some point you have to win though.
 
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new world
west point used to rule football
if Harvard basketball wins a single ncaa gm they do a ticker tape parade

similar to BC, Harvard hockey is third sport at best at Harvard
 
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when you say new world, i feel like the new world is now it's more important than ever that you actually win. coaches get shorter and shorter leashes in all college sports these days than in the past. not saying harvard should be able to rule the college hockey world, but their overall performance the last five years is deplorable. it's been said many times, but just look at yale hockey under allain. how is that any different than what harvard should be able to do?
 
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Hokydad said:
new world
west point used to rule football
if Harvard basketball wins a single ncaa gm they do a ticker tape parade

similar to BC, Harvard hockey is third sport at best at Harvard
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Hoky - What happened to Blackwell; I know he had been injured/ill but is he still playing hockey? Second, I just looked at this past year's roster and another local kid, Mike Seward, is listed. I was under the impression that he left the program, not the school, before this past season started. I do not know about Harvard getting the 16 or 17 years old, but it does seem that, a couple of years ago, they had plenty of NHL draft picks arriving and graduating as less developed hockey players.
 
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