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HARVARD CRIMSON 2010-2011 - A New Beginning

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sam12 said:
Players will be back on campus in less than 10 days, any idea on who the 2nd assistant coach will be?

Also, my two cents worth on Jaw. Something that happens this late in the summer points to me towards Donato asking him to wait another year at the last minute, and Jaw deciding to go elsewhere where he would be really wanted.
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Heisenberg lists Jaw as a 2012 recruit at PRINCETON. Still looks like an Admissions Problem to me.

GO CRIMSON!
 
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Albie is an excellent coaching choice. Very knowledgeable and likeable. Two thumbs way up!
 
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I can't believe a Yale fan is even weighing in on the subject ... but I've followed Max Everson's rise thru Minnesota youth and high school ranks for several years. He's got a ton of talent and years of upside for the Crimson. Best of luck, Max and we look forward to competing against you!
 
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Hopefully he is waaaaaaay better than his brother because so far, Marshall hasn't done squat. Yes, he has been injured but he has been mostly invisible when on the ice. We need studs up front and on the backline and that is what I thought we were getting with this kid.
 
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Anyone else notice 2012 recruit & Choate grad Kyle Criscuolo lighting up the USHL thus far:

The Musketeers were once again led offensively by the rapidly emerging Kyle Criscuolo, who recorded his fourth, fifth and sixth preseason goals en route to a hat trick and the USHL lead in preseason goal scoring
 
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Per USHR, 6'5'' sophmore LD Wiley Sherman (Hotchkiss) committed for 2014
 
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Not really Harvard-centric but my thoughts on what the league (ok, spoiler, some of the league) should do if the ECAC loses a member are here.
 
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alslammerz said:
Not really Harvard-centric but my thoughts on what the league (ok, spoiler, some of the league) should do if the ECAC loses a member are here.
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I disagree with your conclusion that the "spoiler" Ivies "/spoiler" should split, but I also don't come from an Ivy school. I agree with many of your points arguing for the split (Ivies get more excited for games against Ivies, even playing field, 20-game regular season with 5 home-and-homes), but is there really the need to separate?

My other points, and the ones that I was going to make before you went into the "separate the Ivy" talk... 1) What about RPI-Dartmouth and Harvard-Brown for travel partners instead of RPI-Harvard and Dartmouth-Brown? 2) I disagree strongly with the idea of UConn coming into the ECAC. Their academic mold is nearly polar opposite of the current members and the administration's severe lack of commitment / interest in the team reeks of a consistent doormat.
 
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burgie12 said:
My other points, and the ones that I was going to make before you went into the "separate the Ivy" talk... 1) What about RPI-Dartmouth and Harvard-Brown for travel partners instead of RPI-Harvard and Dartmouth-Brown
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For the travel partners, I was really just going off the straight down I-90 for RPI-Harvard but the ultimate point was that regardless of how it gets set up, they get a little ugly without an RPI or a Quinnipiac. It's nice have 6 New York teams that pair off nicely with one another and 6 New England teams that do sort of the same. Drop an Albany for a Rochester, or a Hamden for a Rochester, and the balance goes out the window.

As for a need to split, I don't think there's a need per se but I do think it makes a lot of sense for the reasons I mentioned. (Paradoxically, I'd more prefer a split if RPI leaves when my main problem is that RIT is our best replacement and they are a D-3 team. I think that's just because I've always seen Quinnipiac leaving as inevitable). I mean, there was no need for the NCHC to do its thing either. Like I said, I think it's an option that the Ivy schools should look at only if and when the ECAC falls to 11 teams. If the current ECAC stays together (or if a more viable RPI/Quinnipiac replacement pops up before they leave) for the next 50 years, I'd be happy too.

Ultimately the only thing UConn has going for it is the name. I don't think it would be a happy fit into the ECAC and if they made most of the changes they needed to make, they'd just become a HE team. That said, not to bag on RIT but I guess if I had to, I'd take UConn's name over a 7 hour trip to Rochester to play a western RPI with no scholarships. Granted I won't be doing these road trips by the time this all comes to pass, but if I were still in the area, I'd be more likely to go to a game in Storrs than Rochester (I'm not saying every Harvard fan would. I would.)

I also just thought it was interesting that despite all the conference carousel talk, no one was really talking about this move if HE poaches like everyone thinks they would. We'll see what happens. Maybe HE can just add UAH and save everyone the trouble.

Should be an interesting few years.
 
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alslammerz said:
Ultimately the only thing UConn has going for it is the name. I don't think it would be a happy fit into the ECAC and if they made most of the changes they needed to make, they'd just become a HE team.
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Well, at least we agree on that.
alslammerz said:
That said, not to bag on RIT but I guess if I had to, I'd take UConn's name over a 7 hour trip to Rochester to play a western RPI with no scholarships.
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First off, I'm incredibly biased because I grew up in Rochester and went to RPI, but there are a lot of schools in the "eastern" hockey schools that the ECAC could pick up as a 12th that are worse than RIT. A team that pulls in high-quality recruits without scholarships and still competes with / dominates their conference (am I talking about RIT or Union?), has made significant upgrades in their academic and athletic programs (probably RIT), and has a new dedicated rink in the works (well, it's definitely not Union...) with a larger student population than any other non-Ivy ECAC school by a large margin could be a valuable asset. No, they don't have the name brand, but none of the non-Ivy, non-HEA schools do. So, maybe you're right. Maybe splitting off is the right thing to do. But, in my incredibly biased opinion, there's no reason not to consider a school that is making a large investment in its athletic future, has the characteristics that align fairly well with the other schools in the conference, and is making large strides to be or stay competitive at their level. If you want the big name draw, then you may as well wait for Syracuse or UB to (finally) declare that they're sponsoring a team. But, the chances are that they're not about to head to the ECAC.

I don't disagree with you that if I were a casual Ivy sports fan, then I wouldn't be excited about another D-III non-scholarship team joining my conference. But, as one of those D-III teams, I would love to play with the big boys, raise the stature of my program, and enjoy the quality of play. I see it more from the position of it being a great mutual agreement between two groups who have similar interests where they can support each other. The groups aren't tailor-made for each other and the conference as a whole is in danger of starting to dip to the point where it is becoming less relevant. But, why break something that works? The current arrangement is adequate and if the Ivies wanted to break away, they sure have been awful quiet about making it known this off-season. Don't you think that that's something that could have been addressed with all of the carousel talks? The biggest mentions I've heard of the Ivies are that Cornell is being considered for HEA's 12th spot (LOL) and Princeton is having to deal with coaching changes due to Gadowsky leaving for Penn State. So, as I said, I don't disagree with your logic. I think there's points we're both missing, but we've both got the basic things taken into consideration. I will let the administrators, presidents, coaches, and athletic directors make the decisions that they make.

By the way, your writing is excellent and I enjoy reading the hockey articles on the blog. You're very well informed and it's a great site to get quality in-depth analysis of the goings-on of the ECAC. Best of luck to the Crimson (outside of a Saturday in January and a Friday in February). Thank you for being civil and intelligent in the discussion.
 
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alslammerz said:
For the travel partners, I was really just going off the straight down I-90 for RPI-Harvard but the ultimate point was that regardless of how it gets set up, they get a little ugly without an RPI or a Quinnipiac. It's nice have 6 New York teams that pair off nicely with one another and 6 New England teams that do sort of the same. Drop an Albany for a Rochester, or a Hamden for a Rochester, and the balance goes out the window.
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Princeton, New England? :confused:

I too liked your article a lot although I didn't agree with some of it. As to HE admitting UAH -- that would truly be unlikely.
 
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I agree exactly with his article. RPI is not a program on the rise, this is a big year for coach and program. If they finish 5th or 6th again, which I believe will be the best they will finish, program is stagnant at best.
 
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burgie12 said:
Well, at least we agree on that.

By the way, your writing is excellent and I enjoy reading the hockey articles on the blog. You're very well informed and it's a great site to get quality in-depth analysis of the goings-on of the ECAC. Best of luck to the Crimson (outside of a Saturday in January and a Friday in February). Thank you for being civil and intelligent in the discussion.
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We agree on a lot. Don't get me wrong, I get excited for RPI, Union, Clarkson and SLU but I also followed the ECAC before I got here so I'm probably not typical. I think if I could transplant RIT to be near the Capital District or New England, I would take them, D-III or no. Like I admitted, they were a recent NCAA team so it's not that they can't be successful. I just think that they are too isolated from the rest of the league. They are two hours from the closest current ECAC team and since they would have to split Cornell/Colgate up for it, the result is two trips out to the Syracuse (and Rochester) area per year instead of one. As for the Ivy League, again, I'm not saying they will do anything but as for not having discussions, it either because they aren't as focused on hockey anymore (hopefully not) or because they thought this carousel was going to stay out west.

Ralph Baer said:
Princeton, New England? :confused:

I too liked your article a lot although I didn't agree with some of it. As to HE admitting UAH -- that would truly be unlikely.
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Sometimes the flow of a sentence needs to be respected rather than perfect accuracy. But yes, 6 New York teams, 5 New England teams, one team in New Jersey.

goldy_331 said:
Hey! Is it not in New Jersey? Isn't Jersey an English region (I know it's closer to France, but still)? See, New England! :)
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Ha!

Thanks for reading and thanks for the kind words all. Looking forward to a good season with lots of stuff to write about (it'll be a needed distraction from my academics.)
 
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Wow, so H is 8-7-10. Anyone really surpirsed?

Another season of just barely above .500 and single digit wins.

Thank God for all the points earned in those Ties.

Another Beanpot let down, but a "big" win in the Consolation Game.

So are you guys still defending Donato? Why? He is a horrible coach.
 
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