Kepler
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Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
You'd have to ask the Bush administration, which started that program.
You'd have to ask the Bush administration, which started that program.
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Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/no-around-6-time-by-13-year-home-invasion/
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/no-around-6-time-by-13-year-home-invasion/
JF_Gophers
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I like how they call it a life and death situation. Which it wasn't necessarily, but makes for a good story for the true believers.
Also, his parents should be jailed for not locking up their guns.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
So you think the kid should have been completely defenceless and possibly died?
So you think the kid should have been completely defenceless and possibly died?
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
Remember my comment about irresponsible gun owners?
Remember my comment about irresponsible gun owners?
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
The home invaders were armed. Would they have given the kid milk and cookies and told him, "Lad, proceedest to thine kitchen table whilest we robbest thine fine abode? Scurry along, chap."
And you assume the firearm wasn't locked up. A mature 13 year old with training can properly handle a firearm, and that includes knowing the combination to the vault. And if you can assume, please allow me: I'd say the kid had training. He was last man standing in a fire fight.
The home invaders were armed. Would they have given the kid milk and cookies and told him, "Lad, proceedest to thine kitchen table whilest we robbest thine fine abode? Scurry along, chap."
And you assume the firearm wasn't locked up. A mature 13 year old with training can properly handle a firearm, and that includes knowing the combination to the vault. And if you can assume, please allow me: I'd say the kid had training. He was last man standing in a fire fight.
The Sicatoka
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Again, you assume the firearm wasn't secured. I knew the combination to my father's vault at that age. (I also knew that if I used the combination I'd better have a reason irrefutable in my father's mind.)
Again, you assume the firearm wasn't secured. I knew the combination to my father's vault at that age. (I also knew that if I used the combination I'd better have a reason irrefutable in my father's mind.)
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JF_Gophers
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Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
The whole story is assumptions.
Just because there was a positive outcome for this 13 year old with a gun doesn't mean that is the right solution for this situation every time.
It was not life and death until that kid fired a gun. Prior to that no one can predict motive or outcome.
Criminals could have run off hearing people in the home. They could have used the gun as deterrent to make anyone home cooperate. They could have come to shoot anyone that was there without reason. No one knows.
Finally, yes he should not have had access to a gun. Responsible or not.
The whole story is assumptions.
Just because there was a positive outcome for this 13 year old with a gun doesn't mean that is the right solution for this situation every time.
It was not life and death until that kid fired a gun. Prior to that no one can predict motive or outcome.
Criminals could have run off hearing people in the home. They could have used the gun as deterrent to make anyone home cooperate. They could have come to shoot anyone that was there without reason. No one knows.
Finally, yes he should not have had access to a gun. Responsible or not.
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My kids took hunter safety in 6th grade and used guns thereafter. I suppose I belong in jail too.
(this is symptomatic of the problem you get when people are advocating policies on things they don't have the first clue about in the real world: Scary teenager with a scary gun? PRISON FOR ALL)
edit: read the "news story"; the rhetoric is hilarious, and reads like NRA propaganda, starting with "two hardened criminals." I would have shot them too, and hope my kids would, but I don't necessarily believe this incident is reported accurately.
My kids took hunter safety in 6th grade and used guns thereafter. I suppose I belong in jail too.
(this is symptomatic of the problem you get when people are advocating policies on things they don't have the first clue about in the real world: Scary teenager with a scary gun? PRISON FOR ALL)
edit: read the "news story"; the rhetoric is hilarious, and reads like NRA propaganda, starting with "two hardened criminals." I would have shot them too, and hope my kids would, but I don't necessarily believe this incident is reported accurately.
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JF_Gophers
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Take all the safety courses you want as a kid. You are still a kid. I get why a HS age kid would be a hunter or taking gun training, but not 13.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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Sure am glad my father has gone to eternal rest, otherwise, JF_Gophers would be sending dad to the big house for teaching firearms safety and letting his (age 11) son fire a .22 caliber rifle. (I didn't get to fire any handguns until 13.)
Sure am glad my father has gone to eternal rest, otherwise, JF_Gophers would be sending dad to the big house for teaching firearms safety and letting his (age 11) son fire a .22 caliber rifle. (I didn't get to fire any handguns until 13.)
JF_Gophers
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I wouldn't send my worst enemy to Michigan.
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
Nice. Add a bounty policy and we can take care of terrorists, drug dealers, and illegally married gays.
Nice. Add a bounty policy and we can take care of terrorists, drug dealers, and illegally married gays.
JF_Gophers
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and any other people we deem to be not like us.
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
I keep all our guns secured, not because I'm concerned about my son, but because I don't know all his friends that well and I'd prefer to free him from any peer pressure regarding handling them. When he was 13 I was quite concerned about that issue, although he had firearm safety training when he was 12 (as did I).
I keep all our guns secured, not because I'm concerned about my son, but because I don't know all his friends that well and I'd prefer to free him from any peer pressure regarding handling them. When he was 13 I was quite concerned about that issue, although he had firearm safety training when he was 12 (as did I).
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
Which, for you gopher fans, is just about everybody.
Which, for you gopher fans, is just about everybody.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
From your keyboard to God's (?) , Black Lives Matters (?), ears.
http://www.npr.org/2015/04/02/39686...-support-carrying-legal-guns-for-self-defense
I'm all for it. The folks willing to follow the law and choose to legally and responsibly arm themselves for self-defense are folks I'd like to meet.
From your keyboard to God's (?) , Black Lives Matters (?), ears.
http://www.npr.org/2015/04/02/39686...-support-carrying-legal-guns-for-self-defense
I'm all for it. The folks willing to follow the law and choose to legally and responsibly arm themselves for self-defense are folks I'd like to meet.
The Sicatoka
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