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Gulf Oil Spill 2010

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The media hearing large numbers and pooping themselves over the thought of a pullitzer covering this story? That in fact the numbers were inflated to begin with?

Don't be so cynical, Obama made it disappear.
 
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That's pure arrogance and defiance there. That's a man who thinks he's not responsible for those 11 lives and all that damage while at the same time managing a company known for cutting corners in safety and environmental concerns.

How do you know that it was his actions that lead to this?
 
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Aaah, yes. Another one that believes the tail wags the dog.

so you do? I don't know that he was smart, dumb, or otherwise.

I could mention that BP has a vested interest in the climate change vehicle that a lot of political players have a stake in (Obama, Soros, Gore, etc.)... nevertheless, only evidence would imply what HE knows or doesn't know. You can't string a man up for something he doesn't know stuff about unless he was in a position to know better and act upon it. Investigate and identify the negligence.

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I suppose you're also upset about Obama's 7 week punt on the matter?
 
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so you do? I don't know that he was smart, dumb, or otherwise.

I could mention that BP has a vested interest in the climate change vehicle that a lot of political players have a stake in (Obama, Soros, Gore, etc.)... nevertheless, only evidence would imply what HE knows or doesn't know. You can't string a man up for something he doesn't know stuff about unless he was in a position to know better and act upon it. Investigate and identify the negligence.

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I suppose you're also upset about Obama's 7 week punt on the matter?

Sure. I'm more upset as I said earlier in the thread that America continues to settle for less in everything. I'm convinced in an America long past that this well could have been run safely and environmentally friendly at a profit. Instead it was run by the company with the worst safety/environmental record in the industry and we were all satisfied with that until the "accident".

We fail at oversight involved capitalism. We may as well try the unfettered variety cause it pretty much is already.
 
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It appears another rig has exploded, all 13 members on the rig have been rescued. The Coast Guard reported a sheen a mile long coming from the Rig. No other information at this time.
 
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These companies just don't give a **** about safety or following standards.

Mariner's safety record in the Gulf, based on federal fines, has been largely unnoteworthy. Last year, it was fined $55,000 for two incidents in the Gulf of Mexico, records from the former Minerals Management Service indicate. In one, it was fined $20,000 because a helicopter platform was taken out of service due to a fire. In another, it was fined $35,000 after an inspectors cited it for lacking adequate contingency plans for an operation.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-02-oil-rig-explosion_N.htm?csp=34news
 
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It appears another rig has exploded, all 13 members on the rig have been rescued. The Coast Guard reported a sheen a mile long coming from the Rig. No other information at this time.

So which big, greedy, multi-national, multi-billion dollar corporation is going to take the flak for this one?
 
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These companies just don't give a **** about safety or following standards.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-02-oil-rig-explosion_N.htm?csp=34news
Seriously? Those are your incidents that prove they don't care about safety or standards? A single $35,000 fine on a $500M company? That's not even a love tap on the wrist, so clearly it wasn't an egregious violation.

As someone who lives with CFR 14 on a daily basis, I can assure you that it is darn near impossible to dot every i and cross every t. Any regulator can find a violation every day of the week if they look hard enough.
 
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Seriously? Those are your incidents that prove they don't care about safety or standards? A single $35,000 fine on a $500M company? That's not even a love tap on the wrist, so clearly it wasn't an egregious violation.

As someone who lives with CFR 14 on a daily basis, I can assure you that it is darn near impossible to dot every i and cross every t. Any regulator can find a violation every day of the week if they look hard enough.

Did your platform blow up too?
 
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Seriously? Those are your incidents that prove they don't care about safety or standards? A single $35,000 fine on a $500M company? That's not even a love tap on the wrist, so clearly it wasn't an egregious violation.

Let him have his high horse fantasies, man, come on. He needs to feel important.
 
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Preventable failures were 'immediate causes' of Deepwater disaster

Washington (CNN) -- Several "specific and preventable human and engineering failures were the immediate causes" of the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster last year, the presidentially appointed Oil Spill Commission said in its much-awaited report Tuesday .

The event "was almost the inevitable result of years of industry and government complacency and lack of attention to safety. This was indisputably the case with BP, Transocean, and Halliburton, as well as the government agency charged with regulating offshore drilling -- the former Minerals Management Service," said commission co-chairman William K. Reilly.

"As drilling pushes into ever deeper and riskier waters where more of America's oil lies, only systemic reforms of both government and industry will prevent a similar, future disaster."

The report, "Deep Water: The Gulf Oil Disaster and the Future of Offshore Drilling," proposed "comprehensive" government and industry actions "to overhaul the U.S. approach to drilling safety and greatly reduce the chances of a similar, large scale disaster in the future."
 
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This is what happens when government is "a friend to business." It's not appropriate for the government to be either friend or enemy of business. They are the ref.

But in our government, one of the teams is paying the ref. It's shocking when the calls go in their favor, isn't it?
 
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There were a billion rules in place already. They broke them.

If we add more rules, do you think they follow them?
 
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