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Grand Unified Election Thread 2: What is the difference between Biden and Dump?
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Slap Shot
I got nothing
As a fellow Vikings fan I ask you to never use that term again.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
ScoobyDoo
NPC
For the kids:
MPI (Massive Pass Interference) on that play. The screw job was in.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
It was still a penalty of some sort.
rufus
rock and roller
Yeah, by the Vikings DB. Not the WR's fault the guy fell down while doing it.
Lee Chatfield, speaker of the MI house, turned on Trump today. His statement is worth reading. He represents those who are the absolute farthest extreme you can go in adoration of Trump while still keeping one toe in reality, so it’s good to see. I’d guess those to his starboard in MI represent maybe 5%, basically clinically insane cocaine-fueled militiamen and Ted Nugent. Wait, that’s the same guy.
MichVandal
Well-known member
Sad to think this is "uncharted", when this has been happening for 230 years now (life of the Constitution).
Heck, even secession isn't uncharted. Didn't go all that well but it happened.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Chatfield and his SS-approved haircut are trying to walk the tightrope for either a 2024 Senate run (if Stabenow retires) or a 2022 gubernatorial run against Whitmer.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Maybe. Anyway how the eff was the vote even this close:
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1338538085320110082?s=20
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
Guest
Or...lost?
That might be a few years out, I don't think he's old enough to buy alcohol yet. He's some kind of a Boy Blunder who sees Marco Rubio as an elder statesman.
edit: my mistake, he's 32. I guess his infantile intellect, stunted morality, and weird genetic disorder fooled me.
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Bronco
Onondaga United IV.6
He is the poster boy for the Michigan Racist Party.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Yeah, he's actually a little bit younger than me. My mom doesn't throw the term 'Nazi' around or make those comparisons very often, but even she has said that she gets those vibes from him.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
This is what happens when you type out something...only delete half...and then finish. I need more coffee...
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1338563229698560000
Why are they being so hysterical?
Why are they being so hysterical?
You'll have to read the opinion, which is fairly long, to get the gist of it. It really isn't as simple as asking "should Biden's win in Wisconsin be overturned?"
Trump argued some points of Wisconsin election law that he said necessitated throwing out absentee ballots. Basically the arguments centered around election clerks completing addresses or other information on ballots that were submitted not in conformance with what the statute says, a claim that ballots collected during various "Democracy in the Parks" rallies shouldn't count, and a claim relating to some declarations last spring by election officials that the Covid stay at home orders constitute "indefinite confinement" which then triggered certain requirements.
An examination of those points reveals a couple of things. First, yeah Wisconsin's election process as handled this year was completely screwed up and haphazard, probably no big surprise. They basically winged it, which of course leads to all sorts of challenges. But the bigger problem, and one that Trump could probably never overcome, is that the remedy he is looking for (just tossing the absentee ballots) was never going to work. It's impossible for him to figure out and prove which ballots were cast contrary to the rules, but his remedy that therefore all absentee ballots be tossed is clearly wrong.
It looks like the primary dispute at the Wisconsin Supreme Court was the way in which the Court chose to decide the case. The majority went with the doctrine of laches, which is sort of an archaic and rarely used notion that if you unnecessarily delay in pursuing your remedy, your claim may be barred. It was the majority's way of punting the decision out of the Court without having to go through the troublesome analysis of what was truly a mess in the Wisconsin election system.
The dissent felt that the analysis should be undertaken, if for no other reason than spanking the election officials and election commission, but I think one of the dissenters even noted that doing so doesn't mean that Trump had any chance of winning on the merits. They just wanted the merits discussed.
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