Gophers-Badgers: Not Good Enough for Mariucci

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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{sigh}

It was a fluke goal, right?

Of course it was...DOTA, remember?

 

[Red Till I'm Dead!]

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Just as the rodent fans would have talked smack if they had won.
BTW, if the rodents hadnt gotten that LUCKY goal from when the puck bounced off of one of the Badgers and went in the net, it would have been a 3-1 win for Bucky.

That really was not a lucky goal or a fluke goal. Those things happen in hockey. A fluke or lucky goals a pucks that are mishandled by the goalie behind the net. A puck bouncing off a defender into the goal just happens in hockey.

By the way, a lot of goals in hockey have some sort of "luck" involved. But I would not call them "lucky"

 

[Red Till I'm Dead!]

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That really was not a lucky goal or a fluke goal. Those things happen in hockey. A fluke or lucky goals a pucks that are mishandled by the goalie behind the net. A puck bouncing off a defender into the goal just happens in hockey.

By the way, a lot of goals in hockey have some sort of "luck" involved. But I would not call them "lucky"

But this weekend, all goals by the gophers are flukes

 

[solovsfett]

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Wow I haven't seen the ref give a game away like that in years. 5 out of the first 6 PP's go to Wisconsin on ticky tack BS... and only after Sconi had a nice lead the refs decided they better even it out so the perception is it was fair... not even close though. Also, they missed a hit to the head penalty that even the former Sconi announcer thought should have been called... Speaking of that announcer clown, he was practically cheering every time the Badgers did something good and complain every time the ref called anything at all against Sconi...not professional at all!

Now to the disallowed goals - 1st one was ligit no goal. 2nd one - I have seen goalies get run over by opponents or throw to the ground and have goals count. The one that happened last night wasn't even close! Even the bias announcers thought it was a goal. On that no goal the refs in fact game Sconi the game. The 3rd one, the net was off sure; but should have been a penalty shot since your goalie clearly pushed it off on purpose. Speaking of your goalie; wow he sucks... I can't believe you guys love to rip on Kangas...ironic, because if you think you are going any where in the playoffs with that kid, you are high!

You guys will probably talk smack about this win, but that abortion by the WCHA officials is the only reason you won…. We worked you the entire game.

we? I didn't know you played last night.

think a little bit and get serious. *****ing about the refs *might* hold water in your argument if this game were in madison.

but forget that anyway. good teams overcome the refs. plain and simple. the 2009-10 rats, for reasons unknown to me really, are not a good team.

carry on

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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But this weekend, all goals by the gophers are flukes

That's true. To even get a puck in the net on the DOTA requires divine intervention.

 

[Red Till I'm Dead!]

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That's true. To even get a puck in the net on the DOTA requires divine intervention.

Scooby... have you seen the light?

I would think it more of sota's offense. Too many chances with out getting the goal. They had a few open nets and missed.

 

[blockski]

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You can go to a Wild game for $50? Lucky(in Napolean Dynamite voice)! I can't get Blackhawks tix in the nosebleeds for that any more. All the fair weathers have come out of the woodworks in Chicago and the ticket brokers have plenty of fibs with lots of extra cash who are willing to pay a lot to leach onto the Hawks now that they're good.

Didn't know that you had so many corpie tickets nor how much you have to "donate" to buy tickets. I have two Saturday tickets at the KC in the 200's row B on the blueline that I have to donate $25 each seat per season. So that's $50 total for the whole season. I have 4 Friday tickets in row A of the 200's in the corner that don't cost anything additional.

All I was taking umbrage with was the notion that there's so much to do up there that people aren't going to the games. They're not going to the games coz the current product isn't worth the cost or additional effort that it would take to secure a corpie seat. Same thing happens here and everywhere else(except Lambeau where there IS in fact NOTHING ELSE TO DO).

My personal opinion would be that Minnesota has been relying on hockey too much, revenue wise. They've never been able (historically) to capitalize on football, thanks to the Dome. Minnesota basketball has been a wreck since Clem.

Now, they've recently remedied this situation with the football stadium and with Tubby coming on board, but they've had the unfortunate luck of launching those new ventures in the midst of a recession.

Wisconsin, on the other hand, doesn't have to rely on hockey to pay the bills.

Minnesota might be milking things a bit too much - we'll see what happens with tickets and whatnot next season - the recession, poor performance on the ice, etc - that's a lot to overcome. However, they're well positioned in the long run as an Athletic Department now - certainly a lot better than they were 5 years ago.

 

[Bakunin]

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One thing I'm wondering after seeing the replay of the game is why the officials allowed UW's goalie to kick the net off without a penalty. Isn't it delay of game if you intentionally knock the net off (and I find it hard to believe anyone could reasonably argue it's an accident given the fact the goalie had his foot braced against the pipe and used it as leverage to move himself forward in the crease)?

*Note: I don't think it's a penalty shot as a certain tool in this thread demanded - I think that one only applies when a defending player gloves the puck in the crease and not if the net is knocked off.*

 

[blockski]

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One thing I'm wondering after seeing the replay of the game is why the officials allowed UW's goalie to kick the net off without a penalty. Isn't it delay of game if you intentionally knock the net off (and I find it hard to believe anyone could reasonably argue it's an accident given the fact the goalie had his foot braced against the pipe and used it as leverage to move himself forward in the crease)?

*Note: I don't think it's a penalty shot as a certain tool in this thread demanded - I think that one only applies when a defending player gloves the puck in the crease and not if the net is knocked off.*

If the ref thought the goalie was merely trying to push off from the post to get into better position, in combination with knowledge of the ice conditions, he might let it slide.

 

[SiouxFanatic]

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One thing I'm wondering after seeing the replay of the game is why the officials allowed UW's goalie to kick the net off without a penalty. Isn't it delay of game if you intentionally knock the net off (and I find it hard to believe anyone could reasonably argue it's an accident given the fact the goalie had his foot braced against the pipe and used it as leverage to move himself forward in the crease)?

*Note: I don't think it's a penalty shot as a certain tool in this thread demanded - I think that one only applies when a defending player gloves the puck in the crease and not if the net is knocked off.*

Actually, said person is correct(I guess could depend on what conference the refs are from ). Watch and listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTHXXxwfLSU

The Maine player intentionally knocked the net off its moorings and Drew Stafford was awarded a penalty shot, which he scored and won the game for the Sioux.

 

[VarsityWisconsin]

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No.

I'll take 25/27 shots disallowed any day. Sure, he gave up some rebounds, but he was able to stick with a lot of the plays and cover up the puck or his defense would bail him out. FTR, Kengas only stopped 20/23. Who would you say had the better performance last night?

 

[Stauber1]

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I'll take 25/27 shots disallowed any day. Sure, he gave up some rebounds, but he was able to stick with a lot of the plays and cover up the puck or his defense would bail him out. FTR, Kengas only stopped 20/23. Who would you say had the better performance last night?

Kangas. Both of the Gopher goals were weak as hell, and they easily could have had 2 or 3 more if they weren't so pitiful an offensive team. I thought Gudmandson looked pretty shaky all night. I also couldn't believe how many ridiculous turn-overs the Badger D made. Made Fischer look down right tidy.

That was just a bad hockey game. The ice was ****ty, the referring was ****ty, and both teams looked like ****. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say the players were having a hard time dealing with the ice conditions and the referees destroying the flow of the game.

EDIT: Anyone who ever suggests hockey at the Target Center again should be shot.

 

[VarsityWisconsin]

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Kangas. Both of the Gopher goals were weak as hell, and they easily could have had 2 or 3 more if they weren't so pitiful an offensive team. I thought Gudmandson looked pretty shaky all night. I also couldn't believe how many ridiculous turn-overs the Badger D made. Made Fischer look down right tidy.

That was just a bad hockey game. The ice was ****ty, the referring was ****ty, and both teams looked like ****. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say the players were having a hard time dealing with the ice conditions and the referees destroying the flow of the game.

EDIT: Anyone who ever suggests hockey at the Target Center again should be shot.

The first goal was an odd man rush that Goody had little chance on and the 2nd goal was a heck of a drive by the Gopher DMan where Goody was shielded and couldn't make a play on it. The fact that the Badger D made so many ridiculous turnovers in your mind only makes Goody's performance even that much better that only 2 goals were given up.

Let's keep a list of Gopher excuses so far:

1) Referees
2) Bad ice conditions.

I'll keep adding to this list as the series progresses into tomorrow.

 

[VarsityWisconsin]

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Watched the 3rd period this am on the big 11 channel. UW's d played poorly from the rodent blueline back to the top of the UW circles. Schultz really struggled last night.

Both the goals I saw scored in the 3rd should have been stopped by the tenders. Goody didn't look bad, but he got beat at least 5 times, the 2 goals scored, the waived off one, the net off one and the Cepis rocket. He also did have some rebound control issues. He's still the guy, though. Since 2nd is locked up, does Eaves go with Bennett tomorrow to see where he's at?

Mitchell's line looked very solid.

UW can't loose the face-off battle like they did last night.

I hope Eaves goes with Bennett. Keep Goody fresh for next week. BTW, even though Schultz did struggle he did have a PP Goal so not all was bad.

 

[Bakunin]

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If the ref thought the goalie was merely trying to push off from the post to get into better position, in combination with knowledge of the ice conditions, he might let it slide.

That'd be the only thing that slid on that atrocious ice last night.

 

[Diggs]

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I'll admit, I'm a Gopher fan, so take this post as you will: The Gophers outplayed the second best team in the WCHA, by a fairly wide margin. All it does is give me some small sense of confidence for next weekend at N Dak.

Varsity WI guy? You really may be the dumbest guy I've ever wasted time reading. Not even worth a response!

 

[blockski]

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That'd be the only thing that slid on that atrocious ice last night.

But you know what I mean - bad ice, especially new bad ice, often takes some time for the goal moorings to set up properly.

 

[VarsityWisconsin]

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I'll admit, I'm a Gopher fan, so take this post as you will: The Gophers outplayed the second best team in the WCHA, by a fairly wide margin. All it does is give me some small sense of confidence for next weekend at N Dak.

Varsity WI guy? You really may be the dumbest guy I've ever wasted time reading. Not even worth a response!

Outplayed by a fairly wide margin? Speak for yourself and take off those Gopher goggles.

The Gophers only outshot the Badgers 27-23, and they couldn't even score on a 5 on 3. If the Gophers outplayed the Badgers by such a wide margin, then what is your excuse for them not winning? I'll be sure to add it to my list.

 

[Stauber1]

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The first goal was an odd man rush that Goody had little chance on and the 2nd goal was a heck of a drive by the Gopher DMan where Goody was shielded and couldn't make a play on it. The fact that the Badger D made so many ridiculous turnovers in your mind only makes Goody's performance even that much better that only 2 goals were given up.

Let's keep a list of Gopher excuses so far:

1) Referees
2) Bad ice conditions.

I'll keep adding to this list as the series progresses into tomorrow.

Please point out where in my post that I was making excuses for the Gophers. If anything I was making excuses for the Badgers. I'm used to seeing MN play like crap, but Wisconsin is supposed to be good this year.

Both those goals were weak. Ryan Flynn the sharp-shooter scoring from outside the circles on a clean shot.
And Big Slapper Wehrs with a heck of a drive!!

 

[VarsityWisconsin]

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Please point out where in my post that I was making excuses for the Gophers. If anything I was making excuses for the Badgers. I'm used to seeing MN play like crap, but Wisconsin is supposed to be good this year.

Both those goals were weak. Ryan Flynn the sharp-shooter scoring from outside the circles on a clean shot.
And Big Slapper Wehrs with a heck of a drive!!

I agree that UW didn't play well, but we didn't have to considering the opponent. We also didn't get outplayed by a fairly wide margin. I'm glad you cleared that up.