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Gophers-Badgers: Not Good Enough for Mariucci

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Chuck Schwartz said:
Any chance we can mix in a little hockey talk this week? :cool:

I've gotten to see Minny play here and there but I'd like to hear Gopher fans opinions on a few subjects:

1. What is the consensus on Alex Kangas this season? He was outstanding as a freshman, his numbers regressed last season, and the numbers are somewhere in the middle as a junior. Is it assumed that he is leaving after this season since I've heard talk about offering a Canadian goalie for next season?

2. What the hell happened to the development of Jordan Schroeder?

3. Is David Fischer doing push ups in the corner when the play is going on or what? 6 points in 34 games.
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Let's turn this around a bit:

1. I thought Eaves is supposed to be this great defensive mind; why is Gardiner wasting away on playing with the 3rd D pair as a first round draft pick? Why did McD have to play 3 years and counting of college hockey as yet another really really high draft pick and why hasn't he even come close to living to expectations?

2. Why does Eaves think he can get away with recruiting as many kids as he wants and than deciding right before they are ready to play at Sconi whether or not he will actually let them come in?

3. Why does Sconi have to pick up our Gopher rejects in order to compete any give year? ...and why does Sconi's fan base actually believe these Minny kids who defect actually had Sconi as their first choice and simply aren't going their because Lucia didn't show interest.

4. Why do drunkin Sconi's call Marvin dirty when you have the POS Grotting on your team who thinks it's cool to punch people's heads into the ground after their helmet falls off?

5. Why did you need to host both a regional and a frozen four in the same year to win a National Championship? ...and why did Robbie "dive master" Earl tarnish your accomplishment by faking an injury in that game until he saw he had a break away....really classy.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I won't argue how much hockey you have, but are you telling me that the season ticket holders are eating their tickets and going to the local rink instead? I'm thinking that they're Gopher fans more than general fans of hockey and my guess is they're sitting home or going to a movie.

I'll be the first to admit that it can be a real chore to go to a Badger game when they're not any good and I have to kick my own a-s-s out the door at times. But I don't ever say, screw it, I'm going to the Madison Edgewood HS game instead of the Badgers.
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The money I would spend on going to Gopher games (which would only be Sat's, due to my work sched; I barely make it home for puck-drop on Fri's, and I live about 10 miles from work), I spend on road-tripping to see other arenas/games, which may include the Gophers.

Example: went to the MN@Tech series this year. MN tix are about $30/game, normal seat. Add the whatever it is to park ($5-10, depending, I think).

For Tech, it was $30 to sit in the Presidential Suite....for the weekend. Tickets for a normal seat ran about $12/game. No parking fee if you got there early enough.

So, for the same amount I'd spend on a home series for the Gophers, I got tickets for two games, plus gas money to get to Tech and see people I rarely see, have a nice mini-vacation road trip, and as a bonus, got to see a Gophers sweep. ;)

Frankly, I'd rather hang out with a few friends, be loud and obnoxious, and watch the game on TV and listen to Doug and the Rug.

Now, if I were rich, then it'd be a different story. :)
 
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RinkPig said:
Let's turn this around a bit:
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Ok, let's do it. I've bolded your idiotic questions.

(For reference, my questions earlier were realistic questions for real Minnesota fans in case anyone was wondering)

1. I thought Eaves is supposed to be this great defensive mind; why is Gardiner wasting away on playing with the 3rd D pair as a first round draft pick? Why did McD have to play 3 years and counting of college hockey as yet another really really high draft pick and why hasn't he even come close to living to expectations?

1a. Because we have five draft choices on our defense and the other one will surely be drafted in the top 5 rounds this season. We have three first rounders (McDonagh, Smith, and Gardiner), and two second rounders (Schultz and Goloubef). We don't have a third pairing, we have 1a, 2a, 3a.

1b. It's actually two and counting since McDonagh is a junior. And how has he not lived up to expectations? He is the best defensive defenseman in the WCHA if not the entire nation. He will be playing in the NHL next season as a 21-22 year old.

2. Why does Eaves think he can get away with recruiting as many kids as he wants and than deciding right before they are ready to play at Sconi whether or not he will actually let them come in?

Minnesota has 9 forwards committed for next season and only has 4 seniors. Why don't you tell me how that is going to work out for you.

3. Why does Sconi have to pick up our Gopher rejects in order to compete any give year? ...and why does Sconi's fan base actually believe these Minny kids who defect actually had Sconi as their first choice and simply aren't going their because Lucia didn't show interest.

3a. Explain to me the last time a players birth state had any factor in winning an NCAA title. When teams start getting bonus goals for recruiting in-state players, I'll start worrying about this subject. It's about the same time I'll start looking for an NCAA college hockey game at my local Game Stop.

3b. We care about winning and not which player playing for our program had Wisconsin as a first choice. You can win all the recruiting National Championships you want, we'll win them on the ice 6>5.

4. Why do drunkin Sconi's call Marvin dirty when you have the POS Grotting on your team who thinks it's cool to punch people's heads into the ground after their helmet falls off?

Did you actually watch this game or were you too busy counting your recruiting national titles? Ben Grotting is the player with his helmet off. The reason it is off? Because Patrick White ripped it off after having Grotting in a head lock. If you don't want to fight, don't put players in head locks and then subsequently rip their helmet off. During the fight, in which Grotting continues to use Whites head as a punching bag because White (the second worst first round pick in the history of the NHL behind David Fischer) is soft.

Did they fall to the ice? Yes. Did White's head hit the ground? No. Grotting actually stopped throwing punches as soon as they were on the ice and White didn't have a helmet.

Watch the video. You're an idiot.

5. Why did you need to host both a regional and a frozen four in the same year to win a National Championship? ...and why did Robbie "dive master" Earl tarnish your accomplishment by faking an injury in that game until he saw he had a break away....really classy.

5a. You have the memory of a two year old. First of all, Wisconsin has won six national championships. Only one of them was won in the state of Wisconsin. I'm not sure if you remember 2006 (I'm guessing you don't), but Wisconsin was ranked as the #1 team in the country for most of the season, and was the number 1 overall seed in the tournament, because they were the best team over the course of the regular season. It's shocking that the #1 team in the country would go on to win the national title isn't it?


What were we supposed to do, tell the NCAA we weren't going to play in the tournament because we got put in our home state? Wisconsin didn't host the regional, I think either Tech or Northern Michigan did. If you remember correctly, Minnesota and Wisconsin were battling for the #1 overall seed all season. Whoever won the third place game of the WCHA Final Five would get the #1 overall seed and would subsequently be placed closest to home for the regionals. Wisconsin won and got placed closest to home which was Green Bay.

By the way how did Minnesota's season end in 2006? I think I heard something about Holy Cross.

Also, your memory must be pretty short because I seem to remember a 2002 national championship that Minnesota won that just happened to be played in St. Paul Minnesota. Did Minnesota have to play that in St. Paul to win a championship?

For reference, Minnesota has also played in two other NCAA title games in the state of Minnesota and lost both of them. So much for home state advantage.

5b. How do you tarnish a National title? I'm literally laughing out loud right now at the prospect of a championship being tarnished because you felt a player took a dive (no penalty was called), and ended up scoring later in the play.

Also, you need your hockey terms re-adjusted. A break away is when a player has the puck on his stick and is all alone with just him and the goaltender. Robbie Earl went hard to the net and one timed a puck past the goalie on a very nice pass.
 
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Husky4Life said:
Even though you wont be at the FF, are you still going to show up? Will you be brave enough to wear your rodent jersey?
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Brave enough?

I wore Gopher colors to the '06 F4 surrounded by wisconsin fans in Milwaukee.

I wore Gopher colors to the '07 regional in Denver surrounded by UND fans.

I think I'll survive. :rolleyes:
 
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Bakunin said:
Brave enough?

I wore Gopher colors to the '06 F4 surrounded by wisconsin fans in Milwaukee.

I wore Gopher colors to the '07 regional in Denver surrounded by UND fans.

I think I'll survive. :rolleyes:
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We go to Sioux bars in our Gophers gear.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
You mean winning 3 of our last 4? Or did you mean going 6-2-1 in our last 9 home games?
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No, he meant the games that you play when there is a full moon while it's snowing outside when Doug Woog wears a tan suit and Nick Leddy ate Burrito Loco for dinner on the previous Tuesday.

Nice selective stats.

By the way Minnesota is 1-4 on Saturdays over the past 5 Saturdays. See what I did here?
 
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Gurtholfin said:
No doubt. I'm just saying that it's overly simplistic to blame it on having other entertainment options due to living in a large metro area. Everyone has other options, even if that option is to stay home and rent a movie.
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I'm guessing most of the empty seats are corporate - so the employees of said companies never paid for the tickets. The only way to fill these unused seats is to sell SRO's and let people take these seats during the games (a better way would be to have the companies themselves surrender the unused tickets as punishment for leaving their seats unoccupied repeatedly).

As far as SRO goes, it's a ridiculous deal since the cost of these tickets is only a couple bucks cheaper than assigned seating is (at least it was the case when the U actually offered single game tickets for assigned seating a few years ago - I believe now the only tickets offered to the public are SRO). So basically to get in, you either have to buy on the street or go the SRO route - and then grab an empty seat a few minutes after the game starts and run the risk of being booted out when the actual seat holder shows up (since people come in notoriously late to Gopher games).

Beyond that, getting season tickets is a costly and difficult process. Either you go on the wait list (which is at least 2000 people deep I think) which drops only a dozen or so per season, or you go the donation route. The latter approach is really the only way to get season tickets anytime this century, and it requires a minimum donation of $500(?) per season on top of the cost of the ticket. I don't know about the rest of you, but forking over what amounts to $50 per game to see college hockey is *'ing ridiculous. Add in the time it takes to drive to / from campus in heavy traffic (particularly on Fridays) and the $10 it costs to park, and this pretty much becomes a no-brainer for most people. Why pay $60 per game + gas/travel time when you can watch it on a big screen in the comfort of your home on FSN?

Then there's the fact I could spend the same amount of money and go to a Wild game instead and see hockey at the highest level. If I'm going to blow $50+ per game, that route makes a lot more sense than going to Mariucci, doesn't it?
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
No, he meant the games that you play when there is a full moon while it's snowing outside when Doug Woog wears a tan suit and Nick Leddy ate Burrito Loco for dinner on the previous Tuesday.

Nice selective stats.

By the way Minnesota is 1-4 on Saturdays over the past 5 Saturdays. See what I did here?
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Except my selection of stats was relevant to the series this weekend.

1) 3 of last 4 would be recent performance. What they did in week 3 isn't indicative of current performance.

2) They are playing at home. So recent home performance again relates to this series.

See what I did there? Made a relevant post. Now you try.
 
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Bakunin said:
I'm guessing most of the empty seats are corporate - so the employees of said companies never paid for the tickets. The only way to fill these unused seats is to sell SRO's and let people take these seats during the games (a better way would be to have the companies themselves surrender the unused tickets as punishment for leaving their seats unoccupied repeatedly).

As far as SRO goes, it's a ridiculous deal since the cost of these tickets is only a couple bucks cheaper than assigned seating is (at least it was the case when the U actually offered single game tickets for assigned seating a few years ago - I believe now the only tickets offered to the public are SRO). So basically to get in, you either have to buy on the street or go the SRO route - and then grab an empty seat a few minutes after the game starts and run the risk of being booted out when the actual seat holder shows up (since people come in notoriously late to Gopher games).

Beyond that, getting season tickets is a costly and difficult process. Either you go on the wait list (which is at least 2000 people deep I think) which drops only a dozen or so per season, or you go the donation route. The latter approach is really the only way to get season tickets anytime this century, and it requires a minimum donation of $500(?) per season on top of the cost of the ticket. I don't know about the rest of you, but forking over what amounts to $50 per game to see college hockey is *'ing ridiculous. Add in the time it takes to drive to / from campus in heavy traffic (particularly on Fridays) and the $10 it costs to park, and this pretty much becomes a no-brainer for most people. Why pay $60 per game + gas/travel time when you can watch it on a big screen in the comfort of your home on FSN?

Then there's the fact I could spend the same amount of money and go to a Wild game instead and see hockey at the highest level. If I'm going to blow $50+ per game, that route makes a lot more sense than going to Mariucci, doesn't it?
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IIRC, the people I know with season tix (have had them for at least 10-15 years) said they pay $850/ticket for a donation on top of the cost of the ticket. And they are Sec 23 (MN end, even with the goal line, on the side), towards the top of the bowl.
 
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Well, this thread blows.

And no, I do not plan on contributing anything useful. Let's just get that out of the way. :D
 
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JF_Gophers said:
Except my selection of stats was relevant to the series this weekend.

1) 3 of last 4 would be recent performance. What they did in week 3 isn't indicative of current performance.

2) They are playing at home. So recent home performance again relates to this series.

See what I did there? Made a relevant post. Now you try.
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Fine, let's get relevant.

A.) Obviously you can't take a joke.

B.) Friday they are not playing at home, they are playing at the Target Center because of a figure skating competition at Mariucci.

C.) Wisconsin is 8-2 over it's last 10, and 6-1 over it's last 7. Wisconsin is also 5-2 in it's last 7 road games.

Wisconsin Hockey: We have selective stats too.
 
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Lol to RinkPig's post. And people think I see the world through Badger goggles. Talk about some Goofer Goggles on that guy.

McDonaugh's been a disappointment? What season are you watching?

And yes, we recruit guys from Minnesota (AKA Gardiner - who is better than any of your own defensemen). Thank you for feeding our program and making it better than your own.
 
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VarsityWisconsin said:
Lol to RinkPig's post. And people think I see the world through Badger goggles. Talk about some Goofer Goggles on that guy.

McDonaugh's been a disappointment? What season are you watching?

And yes, we recruit guys from Minnesota (AKA Gardiner - who is better than any of your own defensemen). Thank you for feeding our program and making it better than your own.
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We don't claim him.
 
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I think it pertinent to point out UM hasn't won a single game all season when playing on the first Friday of any month.

Take that.

Yeah.
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
A.) Obviously you can't take a joke.

B.) Friday they are not playing at home, they are playing at the Target Center.

C.) Wisconsin is 8-2 over it's last 10, and 6-1 over it's last 7. Wisconsin is also 5-2 in it's last 7 road games.
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A.) You are poor at making jokes is more obvious.

B.) Oh, so I never have to hear how Xcel is home ice for the Gophers again? Great, I was tired of that argument.

C.) First relevant thing you've said. Congrats.
 
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If I don't scratch myself early in the morning, Gophers are undefeated.
 
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