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Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine
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Re: Global War on Terror Version 6 - Perpetual Motion Machine
Houston has nothing to do with it. The jerky poster isn't and never was a Houston fire fighter. And you want to condemn a city of several millions because of the ignorant words of one person? Too bad your exquisitely tuned sense of outrage didn't register a peep when ISIS beheaded a couple of dozen guys just because they're Christian. What, exactly, does it take to get your t*ts in an uproar about Islamist savagery?
BTW, is it true what I've read that the shooter in North Carolina is a fan of Ms. Maddow's and not a "fundy"? Kinda alters your reflexive chest beating, doesn't it?
Houston has nothing to do with it. The jerky poster isn't and never was a Houston fire fighter. And you want to condemn a city of several millions because of the ignorant words of one person? Too bad your exquisitely tuned sense of outrage didn't register a peep when ISIS beheaded a couple of dozen guys just because they're Christian. What, exactly, does it take to get your t*ts in an uproar about Islamist savagery?
BTW, is it true what I've read that the shooter in North Carolina is a fan of Ms. Maddow's and not a "fundy"? Kinda alters your reflexive chest beating, doesn't it?
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They have to wear Harvard colors.
They have to wear Harvard colors.
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He'd probably claim those Christians are greatly exaggerating the extent of their beheading and it's all Bush's fault anyway, or some such blather. You know, the usual Obama party line.
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They STILL blaming Bush?
They STILL blaming Bush?
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Do those morons even know what the first I in ISIS stands for? http://nypost.com/2015/02/17/islamic-extremism-off-limits-at-white-house-terrorism-summit/
Do those morons even know what the first I in ISIS stands for? http://nypost.com/2015/02/17/islamic-extremism-off-limits-at-white-house-terrorism-summit/
solovsfett
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absolutely terrifying stuff: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/17/italy-fears-isis-invasion-from-libya.html
If no-one (read: U.S., UK, Germany, Australia) stands up to ISIS militarily (meaning boots on the ground, not video game pilots) they'll carve their way up to France or Spain within 2 years.
absolutely terrifying stuff: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/17/italy-fears-isis-invasion-from-libya.html
If no-one (read: U.S., UK, Germany, Australia) stands up to ISIS militarily (meaning boots on the ground, not video game pilots) they'll carve their way up to France or Spain within 2 years.
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Forgive me, but where is the French or Spanish military / police force? Are they going to sit on their keesters and get overrun?
Forgive me, but where is the French or Spanish military / police force? Are they going to sit on their keesters and get overrun?
unofan
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You know. I'm really glad I only run into batshiat like this online and very occasionally at work. I don't think I could handle dealing with it daily from my neighbors or co workers.
solovsfett
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ok, where is their advance being halted and by whom?
ok, where is their advance being halted and by whom?
Kepler
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If you want to isolate Islamic crazies from wider Islamic world, the way to do it is to concentrate on the crazy part (which is, after all, the problem). Compare the Neo-Nazi "Christian Identity" movement. Ya think it would be smart to concentrate on the "Christian" part?
The NY Post is tub-thumping for idiots. You're not an idiot; you shouldn't fall for it.
If you want to isolate Islamic crazies from wider Islamic world, the way to do it is to concentrate on the crazy part (which is, after all, the problem). Compare the Neo-Nazi "Christian Identity" movement. Ya think it would be smart to concentrate on the "Christian" part?
The NY Post is tub-thumping for idiots. You're not an idiot; you shouldn't fall for it.
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Is there much difference between the "Christian" part and the "Crazy" part? Look at what happened in Chapel Hill with that right-wing nutjob killing the three Muslim doctors and the Muslim student at University of Texas who was assaulted in a religiously-motivated incident. Where are the Christian leaders proclaiming their support for Muslims?
Is there much difference between the "Christian" part and the "Crazy" part? Look at what happened in Chapel Hill with that right-wing nutjob killing the three Muslim doctors and the Muslim student at University of Texas who was assaulted in a religiously-motivated incident. Where are the Christian leaders proclaiming their support for Muslims?
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The nut job at UNC is not right wing. Not a fundie. He's a fan of Rachel Maddow. But don't let these inconvenient facts deter you from expressing your bigotry.
The nut job at UNC is not right wing. Not a fundie. He's a fan of Rachel Maddow. But don't let these inconvenient facts deter you from expressing your bigotry.
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Handyman
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Yeah they won't. You probably think Ebola is gonna get you too dont ya...
Yeah they won't. You probably think Ebola is gonna get you too dont ya...
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A rising tide kills us all!
A rising tide kills us all!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Yes, there's a big difference. Even if you want to grant that crazy religion x'ers are religion x (and the rest of religion x rejects that), you make no progress and just show ignorance if you highlight religion x. 23% of the population of planet Earth is Muslim. Muslim terrorists kill mostly Muslims in Muslim countries. So, if we want to fight the terrorists, we had better get over ourselves and our herpa-derp "the problem is Islam." If Buddhists offered help with our white supremacists we wouldn't care for it much if they insisted that first we "admit" the "problem is Christianity" and demand that "Christian leaders" abjure them as if by not doing so they were showing support. The Christian majority would clutch their Bibles and even the grown-ups would dismiss them as clueless about where to put the emphasis and what that implies about their analysis and planning.
Like most things, this comes down to the mediocre third writing a narrative to appeal to the bigotries of dumbest third. It's a marketing and profitability problem, not anything real.
Yes, there's a big difference. Even if you want to grant that crazy religion x'ers are religion x (and the rest of religion x rejects that), you make no progress and just show ignorance if you highlight religion x. 23% of the population of planet Earth is Muslim. Muslim terrorists kill mostly Muslims in Muslim countries. So, if we want to fight the terrorists, we had better get over ourselves and our herpa-derp "the problem is Islam." If Buddhists offered help with our white supremacists we wouldn't care for it much if they insisted that first we "admit" the "problem is Christianity" and demand that "Christian leaders" abjure them as if by not doing so they were showing support. The Christian majority would clutch their Bibles and even the grown-ups would dismiss them as clueless about where to put the emphasis and what that implies about their analysis and planning.
Like most things, this comes down to the mediocre third writing a narrative to appeal to the bigotries of dumbest third. It's a marketing and profitability problem, not anything real.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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You are proving my whole point, Bob. Please go back and read my post again, because I'm pretty sure you just breezed over the meaning. Harping on the ISLAM part of Islamic terrorism makes as little sense as harping on the CHRISTIAN part of the Christian Identity movement. It's not only ignorant, it's also a political mistake because it alienates the 99% of the faithful who aren't insane.
'Murica thinks all Muslims are killers because all 'Murica ever sees about Muslims is terrorism news. This is exactly like the Muslim man on the street who is yelling death to America because all he sees of America is our bombs ripping his kid's limbs off. Joe Six Pack and Ahmed, uh, I dunno, Rosewater and Dates (?) are the same dude.
You are proving my whole point, Bob. Please go back and read my post again, because I'm pretty sure you just breezed over the meaning. Harping on the ISLAM part of Islamic terrorism makes as little sense as harping on the CHRISTIAN part of the Christian Identity movement. It's not only ignorant, it's also a political mistake because it alienates the 99% of the faithful who aren't insane.
'Murica thinks all Muslims are killers because all 'Murica ever sees about Muslims is terrorism news. This is exactly like the Muslim man on the street who is yelling death to America because all he sees of America is our bombs ripping his kid's limbs off. Joe Six Pack and Ahmed, uh, I dunno, Rosewater and Dates (?) are the same dude.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about when you reference The Christian Identity movement. Is that another of these make believe groups that scare you in your dreams?
You're wrong on several accounts. White supremacy, though some would claim a tie to Christianity of some sort, it not a central feature of most such groups. Islam is "the" central feature of ISIS. Beyond that, the comparison will have a little less tenuous substance if the white supremacists had managed to take over part of America and nobody had been able to push them out to date. The success of ISIS, the Taliban, AQ, the clerics in Iran, the popularity of Wahhabism, etc. make your 1 percent claim seem pretty fanciful. As do repeated polls that show large slices if Islam want Israel destroyed, think 9/11 was an Israeli plot, and on and on. That said, there certainly are many Muslim people that just want to live their daily lives and not blow up people, etc. Those people unfortunately aren't numerous enough or active enough or powerful enough or whatever to have much influence on governments, policies, etc. that come forth from the Muslim world. Your comparison is hopelessly tenuous, and that's given you the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you reference The Christian Identity movement. Is that another of these make believe groups that scare you in your dreams?
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