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Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation

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It seemed to me that you seemed pretty disdainful of the idea of holding hearings on Islamic extremism. Perhaps not. My apologies.

I'm not distainful...but isn't this the job of the FBI and in some cases the CIA? Do we really need to be burdening the country's legislative body when its the job of other bodies.

To me this seems of too much government busy-body work.
 
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What precisely is the purpose of Congress holding hearings on "Islamic Extremism"?

1. We've already chosen a course of action in response to such groups.
2. Congress has no authority over such groups, so it's basically a bunch of old men saying pompous things that they think sound patriotic. It might actually be a bigger waste of time than steroid hearings.
 
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What precisely is the purpose of Congress holding hearings on "Islamic Extremism"?

it's basically a bunch of old men saying pompous things that they think sound patriotic.

You answered your own question.
 
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The Norwegian man who allegedly killed dozens at a kids summer camp claims he legally bought high-capacity ammunition clips by mail from the United States, prompting Capitol Hill’s leading gun-control advocate to say on Thursday that America should be ashamed such purchases aren’t against the law.

Anders Behring Breivik wrote in a 1,500-page manifesto that he bought 10 30-round ammunition clips for his .223 caliber rifle from an undisclosed, small U.S. supplier, which had acquired the clips from other suppliers. Norway forbids the sale of clips for hunting rifles that hold more than three bullets, according to Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten.

The sale or transfer of high-capacity gun clips containing more than 10 bullets were illegal in the United States under the 1994 assault weapons ban, but the legislation expired in 2004. After Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was critically shot and six others killed during the January shootings outside a Tucson supermarket, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced legislation to restrict magazines to their pre-2004 level.

She said the legislation now has 109 Democratic co-sponsors. It is highly unlikely to come to a vote, let alone pass, in the GOP-controlled House.

We have to make sure the right of nuts to kill people is not infringed!
 
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The whole reason the second amendment exists is so rich white guys could kill indgenous poeple and better control their slaves. It serves no purpose anymore.
 
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The whole reason the second amendment exists is so rich white guys could kill indgenous poeple and better control their slaves. It serves no purpose anymore.
Those sentences contradict each other.
 
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Harlequin Romance, Version 2011

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Although I knew nothing about this man, I felt oddly trusting and expectant. This is a man, I thought. A man used to taking charge. A man not used to taking 'No' for an answer.

A man who would tell me what he wanted. A man who would look into my soul and say...

"Okay ma'am, you can board your flight now."
 
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Two of Gadhafi's sons have either been arrested or have surrendered in Tripoli to rebel forces this afternoon.
 
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Two of Gadhafi's sons have either been arrested or have surrendered in Tripoli to rebel forces this afternoon.

How many sons does he have? And are either of these two the one who was "killed" on two previous occasions?
 
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Apparently the two are Seif al-Islam and another son named Mohammed. Apparently his two oldest. The one that reportedly killed was Saif al-Arab al-Gaddafi. I guess he has 8 kids, 7 of them sons.
 
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Unconfirmed rumors on Fark that the big guy has been captured.

Got sold out by his intel chief. Wounded and in custody.

Claiming two fairly reliable secondhand sources. Still looking for ground confirmation now.

ETA: No further confirmation, I'm gonna call this not true for the moment. There is also a picture of supposedly a dead Ghadafi floating around Twitter. May or may not be fake.
 
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Lets all give our props to President Obama for succeeding where Reagan failed and where Bush II refused to go. Khadafi (or however the F he chooses to spell his name this week) was a far worse international supporter of terrorism than anybody not named OBL and right now this admin has bagged both of them. Lets just hope he's smart enough not to take an air force jet onto a carrier sitting in Tripoli harbor.
 
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Lets all give our props to President Obama for succeeding where Reagan failed and where Bush II refused to go. Khadafi (or however the F he chooses to spell his name this week) was a far worse international supporter of terrorism than anybody not named OBL and right now this admin has bagged both of them. Lets just hope he's smart enough not to take an air force jet onto a carrier sitting in Tripoli harbor.
And what will replace him?? Sometime the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Democracy? HAH!! I'll give it 6 months before the strongman / Iman / Ayatollah takes over.
 
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Got to love some people :)

American Man Shot by Sniper After Going for Bicycle Ride Around Tripoli

An American activist in Tripoli was shot, apparently by a sniper -- after going for a bicycle ride around the capital as the rebels closed in. Franklin Lamb, director of Americans for Middle East Peace, told NewsCore on Monday of his brush with death a day earlier.

As he spoke from his room at the Corinthia Hotel he said there was "some bombing, some machine gunfire" continuing in the streets but the situation was otherwise "relatively calm." Lamb, who was born in Oregon, was shot Sunday morning after returning from a bicycle tour of the city.

"I was out in Tripoli on a bicycle for 90 minutes and when I came back, walking by the swimming pool of this hotel, I was shot in my right leg," he said in a statement to Russia Today. Lamb said that most of the staff at his five-star hotel had failed to show up for work Monday.

He added that he was none the worse for wear despite having been shot. "I don't know if you've ever been shot in the leg. I never have," Lamb said, according to Russia Today. "I've got painkillers and I've got bandages. I'm okay. I'm lucky the guy didn't hit me in the head.”

Lets all give our props to President Obama for succeeding where Reagan failed and where Bush II refused to go. Khadafi (or however the F he chooses to spell his name this week) was a far worse international supporter of terrorism than anybody not named OBL and right now this admin has bagged both of them. Lets just hope he's smart enough not to take an air force jet onto a carrier sitting in Tripoli harbor.

Agreed. I think I'd give Obama a B+ on foriegn policy to date (which is great...I'd probably give Reagan a higher grade if Gorby wasn't primarily responsible for ending the cold war). IMO the Obama blemishes is his hanging on to Afghanistan.

The GOPs track record on Libya has been very mixed. The GOP old guard (the pragmatists) understood we need to stick up for the people...but the balance of the GOP has become too ideological.
 
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And what will replace him?? Sometime the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Democracy? HAH!! I'll give it 6 months before the strongman / Iman / Ayatollah takes over.

Khadafi blew up a flight over Scotland with 270 innocent people in it who had nothing to do with middle east politics. Kindly tell me who you think could possibly be worse AND have the ability to assume control of that country? Yikes.
 
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Khadafi blew up a flight over Scotland with 270 innocent people in it who had nothing to do with middle east politics. Kindly tell me who you think could possibly be worse AND have the ability to assume control of that country? Yikes.
How about Mao and his successors? We seem to love them.
The Shah and what followed? How did that work out?

And lest we forget:
Russia shot down a KAL flight. And we did not go after the Kremlin.

Trust me. It will be worse. There is now a power vacuum where there is no orderly mechanism for succession (outside of the family). There's going to be a bloodbath until the next strongman takes over. Ditto for Syria (if Assad falls).
 
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How about Mao and his successors? We seem to love them.
The Shah and what followed? How did that work out?

And lest we forget:
Russia shot down a KAL flight. And we did not go after the Kremlin.

Trust me. It will be worse. There is now a power vacuum where there is no orderly mechanism for succession (outside of the family). There's going to be a bloodbath until the next strongman takes over. Ditto for Syria (if Assad falls).

Ummm..no offense, but I'll skip the trusting you part. Mao is going to take over leadership in Libya? I thought he'd been dead for 30 something years? Did you read this on the Drudge site?

Also nice of you to want to see Assad continue his bloodthirsty rule.

What you are missing however, and what this admin has done remarkably well, much like the first Bush when the Berlin wall fell, is keeping the US involvement in this uprisings, be it Tunisia, Egypt or Yemen, at a behind the scenes level so the enemies of America can't portray them as a pro western scheme. Much like Poland, East Germany, Hungary, the Baltics, etc etc are much, much better off now than they were under "the devil we know" 20+ years ago, so shall these current countries undergoing a similar desire for self rule. In Libya, its the people, not NATO, with the boots on the ground storming the palace.
 
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How about Mao and his successors? We seem to love them.
The Shah and what followed? How did that work out?

And lest we forget:
Russia shot down a KAL flight. And we did not go after the Kremlin.

Trust me. It will be worse. There is now a power vacuum where there is no orderly mechanism for succession (outside of the family). There's going to be a bloodbath until the next strongman takes over. Ditto for Syria (if Assad falls).

Where were these arguments with Saddam under the two Bushes? Funny how then the enemy we knew, and the power vacuum that would arise if they fell, wouldnt be so much of a problem. And spare me the "We have to learn from our mistakes" because nothing in the foreign policy under the last 4 presidents has involved us learning from our (or other's mistakes) mistakes. Where was this idea when we invaded Afghanistan, a country that defeated the friggin USSR?

And I am sorry, but there is no way keeping despots like Qaddafi in power is a good thing. Could another despot take over? Sure that is always a possibility but the will of the people, and as of now that is what this is, is more important than what is in the best interests of America. If the Libyans want him out and if he gives NATO a reason to support the rebels (which he has for decades) than have at it.

Under your freaked out, scared as **** view of the world we would have been better off NOT letting Communism/Iron Curtain fall in the Soviet Union because they were the enemy we knew. Yeah I wonder if there is ANYONE who agrees with that? (certainly no one in Eastern Europe I would bet)
 
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