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Global War on Terror 9: Winter Is Here.

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dxmnkd316 said:
I was reading one of the tweets in that chain. It framed it well.

4chan had one rule to post: it must be legal
8chan is all the people who were p-ssed that 4chan deleted their posts

Yeah, it’s a ****ing cesspool. I’ve never been but it sounds farking terrible.
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Yeah, I'm ok with never visiting that site.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I was reading one of the tweets in that chain. It framed it well.

4chan had one rule to post: it must be legal
8chan is all the people who were p-ssed that 4chan deleted their posts

Yeah, it’s a ****ing cesspool. I’ve never been but it sounds farking terrible.
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You guys are weird :p read a book for cryin' out loud :D
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I was reading one of the tweets in that chain. It framed it well.

4chan had one rule to post: it must be legal
8chan is all the people who were p-ssed that 4chan deleted their posts

Yeah, it’s a ****ing cesspool. I’ve never been but it sounds farking terrible.
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It sounds like half the posters there are undercover FBI agents and just this once I'm OK with that.
 
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If I’m a judge, having an account there would satisfy probable cause for whatever the f the police want.
 
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The White Right: our real domestic terror threat.

Note the Comments.
 
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So yesterday after Gordon announced she is resigning on the 15th DNI put out a call for resumes for all IC GS-15. I want you all to sleep tight tonight knowing the White House apparently considers Dr. Mrs. to be fully qualified to be D/ODNI.

(She'd actually be great and she really is qualified with 10+ years in intel and defense, but considering she actually believes in civil liberties I'm afraid that's a no go).
 
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Josh Marshall compares blocking classification of white nationalism as terrorism and blocking studies of gun violence.

Yesterday we learned more details about the White House’s continued indifference to or actual interference with the DHS’s efforts to combat violent white supremacist extremism and terrorism. This is hardly surprising. There’s basically no clear line separating the kind of folks Trump invited to his social media ‘bias’ festival at the White House and various white supremacist propagandists who radicalize guys like the shooter in El Paso. But it’s misleading to see this as particular to Trump or this administration. This goes back at least 25 years and is in its own way comparable to NRA-backed legislative mandates preventing federal public health officials from funding research on gun violence.

Many point to 2009 when a DHS report on rising right-wing violent extremism became a huge brouhaha after it was leaked to conservative media. Then-DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano vaguely pushed back in defense of the report. But the Department basically caved to rightwing pressure and halted efforts to monitor and counter this rising terrorist threat. As the author of the report, Daryl Johnson, explained two years ago: “Work related to violent right-wing extremism was halted. Law enforcement training also stopped. My unit was disbanded. And, one-by-one, my team of analysts left for other employment. By 2010, there were no intelligence analysts at DHS working domestic terrorism threats.”
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This isn't new with Dump. The GOP knows what its voters are.
 
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Kepler said:
So yesterday after Gordon announced she is resigning on the 15th DNI put out a call for resumes for all IC GS-15. I want you all to sleep tight tonight knowing the White House apparently considers Dr. Mrs. to be fully qualified to be D/ODNI.

(She'd actually be great and she really is qualified with 10+ years in intel and defense, but considering she actually believes in civil liberties I'm afraid that's a no go).
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To make sure I’m reading this right, she has all the paper qualifications right? The White House didn’t call for her to apply.

Wouldn’t that be weird. To have a cafe connection to someone in a White House admin.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
To make sure I’m reading this right, she has all the paper qualifications right? The White House didn’t call for her to apply.

Wouldn’t that be weird. To have a cafe connection to someone in a White House admin.
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No, the White House will not be calling her. There are about 500 GS-15s in the IC and she is 180 degrees from what they want politically, intellectually, and morally. 90% of that population is like her, so unless they go outside they are drawing from a pool of about 50.

It just blows me away that they think she is qualified to run the US intelligence apparatus. She is far more qualified that Ratcliffe, for example.

We have had The Talk about what to do if she is ever tapped for a political position with this administration. It's a serious dilemma -- do you put yourself in a position in which you are now attached to great evil for the temporary privilege of pushing back until they fire you? On paper she is simply an ultra efficient career civil servant so it could actually happen that she'd be approached for a lower level slot. But becoming a political means losing your shield against arbitrary and/or malicious punishment, and obviously this administration is the equivalent of working for a seething madman.

There's no penalty for turning down an offer because you stay a career and can't be harmed too badly. It also preserves anonymity in the face of their political network. So she is most comfortable with staying where she is and riding out the storm. There are hundreds like her with the institutional memory to restore normalcy once this fascist period passes and also to then build in protections so this can't happen again. The primary obstacles to a complete Nazi takeover this time have been their incompetence. The next time might be by smart actors. We will need to completely change the way political power runs from the EOP through the federal bureaucracy before that happens. The structures and processes that have existed since Executive Order 12333 (1981) assumed good will and good character in the President. Obviously this can no longer be taken for granted.
 
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Kepler said:
No, the White House will not be calling her. There are about 500 GS-15s in the IC and she is 180 degrees from what they want politically, intellectually, and morally. 90% of that population is like her, so unless they go outside they are drawing from a pool of about 50.

It just blows me away that they think she is qualified to run the US intelligence apparatus. She is far more qualified that Ratcliffe, for example.

We have had The Talk about what to do if she is ever tapped for a political position with this administration. It's a serious dilemma -- do you put yourself in a position in which you are now attached to great evil for the temporary privilege of pushing back until they fire you? On paper she is simply an ultra efficient career civil servant so it could actually happen that she'd be approached for a lower level slot. But becoming a political means losing your shield against arbitrary and/or malicious punishment, and obviously this administration is the equivalent of working for a seething madman.

There's no penalty for turning down an offer because you stay a career and can't be harmed too badly. It also preserves anonymity in the face of their political network. So she is most comfortable with staying where she is and riding out the storm. There are hundreds like her with the institutional memory to restore normalcy once this fascist period passes and also to then build in protections so this can't happen again. The primary obstacles to a complete Nazi takeover this time have been their incompetence. The next time might be by smart actors. We will need to completely change the way political power runs from the EOP through the federal bureaucracy before that happens. The structures and processes that have existed since Executive Order 12333 (1981) assumed good will and good character in the President. Obviously this can no longer be taken for granted.
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I've faced this at the state level twice. Once I was explicitly asked to take a political position, I said no. The other I had feelers made and decided not to pursue it; doubt I would've gotten it anyway.

Part of it is I'm at a point in my career and life that the stability of being a merit protected civil servant is worth a lot to me, and the pay raises would not have made up for losing that and becoming an at will appointee (which was borne out when the person who ultimately took job #1 was let go 3 years later for no reason other than politics) Part of it was also that after the first offer was made, I realized I was no longer an independent, and did not want to be associated with that administration.

It's not an easy call. If I were to get asked the same thing in 20 years when my daughter is out of college and I'm eligible for full retirement, maybe I say yes since I can be as obstinate as I want at that point.
 
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unofan said:
It's not an easy call. If I were to get asked the same thing in 20 years when my daughter is out of college and I'm eligible for full retirement, maybe I say yes since I can be as obstinate as I want at that point.
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Admit it, you just want a chance to write a “Some arsehole is using your letterhead” letters
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Admit it, you just want a chance to write a “Some arsehole is using your letterhead” letters
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I wouldn't go that far, but having no farks left to give and being able to tell the honest to god truth to the powers that be would be nice.
 
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Another one.

That's something like a half dozen white male domestic terrorists in the last 2 weeks, not counting the two shooters.

DHS and TSA should start profiling us.
 
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My neighbor who is near the top of the twin cities law enforcement ranks said they have been warned by the feds for a while now about white right wing terrorism. Said “We’re so f-cked”. Verbatim.
 
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JFC™ (ScoobyDoo)


Also, how much of a dumb sh** was that second one? A three mile distance "confirmed kill" with a .22LR?

<img width=400 src=https://imgur.com/IM70ea1.gif>
 
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