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GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
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Huskiefan906
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Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Any chance Brett Olson is making an early comeback from his broken hand for the G.L.I.??
I have not heard a thing about the actual date he comes back.
CHN injury status for Michigan Tech
Jordan Baker recovering from shoulder surgery applied for medical redshirt
Brett Olson hand surgery out until early January
Bennett Royer foot out indefinitely
Ricky Doriott lower body
Any chance Brett Olson is making an early comeback from his broken hand for the G.L.I.??
I have not heard a thing about the actual date he comes back.
CHN injury status for Michigan Tech
Jordan Baker recovering from shoulder surgery applied for medical redshirt
Brett Olson hand surgery out until early January
Bennett Royer foot out indefinitely
Ricky Doriott lower body
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Unlikely - I believe the St. Lawrence series is the target for Brett's return, with an outside shot that he'll be ready to play at St. Cloud in a week and a half.
Unlikely - I believe the St. Lawrence series is the target for Brett's return, with an outside shot that he'll be ready to play at St. Cloud in a week and a half.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Just getting the inevitable out of the way:
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Just getting the inevitable out of the way:
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MTUHatTrick84
Waiting To Win It All
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
I woke up optimistic this morning. The sun is shining and the temperature is above freezing in Houghton, so that must mean that it is a good day. And thus, I think Tech has a chance tonight.
I would venture out and say that tonight's game is significantly more important to Michigan Tech than it is to the University of Michigan. UofM is the better team, but they play in big games all the time. The last game they played was outdoors in the largest football stadium in the country. They play at the Joe multiple times a year (GLI, against State, CCHA tournament), every year. They have gone to the NCAA tournament every season for two decades. Tech has the GLI and Winter Carnival, and that is really it.
I think the talent difference, especially with the injuries, will be too tall a task for the Huskies. But I at least think they get a chance tonight. Of course, it could be another 10-1 game if things snowball. And there-in lies the key for the Huskies, and something they have been miserable at during the losing streak: They have not been able to overcome adversity. If the other team scores, they need to weather the storm and fight back. Against CC, they were down by 1 in the third period both nights and ended up getting blown out because the wheels came off. They came back to tie NMU in the last game at 1-1 in the second, and then the wheels came off. If the wheels come off against Michigan, you will likely see double digits.
0-0 at the start, and that alone means we have a chance.
I woke up optimistic this morning. The sun is shining and the temperature is above freezing in Houghton, so that must mean that it is a good day. And thus, I think Tech has a chance tonight.
I would venture out and say that tonight's game is significantly more important to Michigan Tech than it is to the University of Michigan. UofM is the better team, but they play in big games all the time. The last game they played was outdoors in the largest football stadium in the country. They play at the Joe multiple times a year (GLI, against State, CCHA tournament), every year. They have gone to the NCAA tournament every season for two decades. Tech has the GLI and Winter Carnival, and that is really it.
I think the talent difference, especially with the injuries, will be too tall a task for the Huskies. But I at least think they get a chance tonight. Of course, it could be another 10-1 game if things snowball. And there-in lies the key for the Huskies, and something they have been miserable at during the losing streak: They have not been able to overcome adversity. If the other team scores, they need to weather the storm and fight back. Against CC, they were down by 1 in the third period both nights and ended up getting blown out because the wheels came off. They came back to tie NMU in the last game at 1-1 in the second, and then the wheels came off. If the wheels come off against Michigan, you will likely see double digits.
0-0 at the start, and that alone means we have a chance.
Huskiefan906
Well-known member
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
G.L.I.
Tech is still short, but now has at least 1 extra forward to play with possibly....
Furne Rix Gordic
Pietila McCadden Johnstone
Lickteig Holmberg MacLeod
Gubb Witt Reddick
Cousens Seigo
Sova Nielsen
Stebner Heinonen
Genoe
If the Gordic line can put up 2 goals, Johnstone line another one, and MacLeod line another then the top 4 d-men have to keep the UofM to 3 goals to have any chance of winning this one.
Genoe must pull a Nolan/Teslak/Rogers/Rhoades/Ram type of performance....
Go Tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Show up, put up a fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let the alumni know you played 60 minutes and left it all out there.....
G.L.I.
Tech is still short, but now has at least 1 extra forward to play with possibly....
Furne Rix Gordic
Pietila McCadden Johnstone
Lickteig Holmberg MacLeod
Gubb Witt Reddick
Cousens Seigo
Sova Nielsen
Stebner Heinonen
Genoe
If the Gordic line can put up 2 goals, Johnstone line another one, and MacLeod line another then the top 4 d-men have to keep the UofM to 3 goals to have any chance of winning this one.
Genoe must pull a Nolan/Teslak/Rogers/Rhoades/Ram type of performance....
Go Tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Show up, put up a fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let the alumni know you played 60 minutes and left it all out there.....
Jon
Say, this is nice.
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Someone made a comment on the USCHO front page that the GLI this year has the best line up. Then I looked at CC and MSU's record. He must have been thinking of historically good teams. If we focus on national titles, these teams are loaded.
Someone made a comment on the USCHO front page that the GLI this year has the best line up. Then I looked at CC and MSU's record. He must have been thinking of historically good teams. If we focus on national titles, these teams are loaded.
MTUHatTrick84
Waiting To Win It All
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
This article was in the columnists section on the front page of cnnsi.com this morning: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...2/28/holiday.hockey.winter.classic/index.html
A nice little mention of the GLI in there.
This article was in the columnists section on the front page of cnnsi.com this morning: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...2/28/holiday.hockey.winter.classic/index.html
A nice little mention of the GLI in there.
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Well...I guess it's hard to be upset about that one.
Well...I guess it's hard to be upset about that one.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
An above average effort, but a 12th straight loss is a 12th straight loss, and we neither held a lead nor at any point did we deserve to. Robinson got off the bus at the start of the game, and the rest of the team finally decided to show up in the third. The Wolverines got goals when they needed them. Not much else to say, except that with today's losses and last year's 10-1 drubbing, I'm picturing a third place game against State that will be rife with penalties and extracurriculars.
An above average effort, but a 12th straight loss is a 12th straight loss, and we neither held a lead nor at any point did we deserve to. Robinson got off the bus at the start of the game, and the rest of the team finally decided to show up in the third. The Wolverines got goals when they needed them. Not much else to say, except that with today's losses and last year's 10-1 drubbing, I'm picturing a third place game against State that will be rife with penalties and extracurriculars.
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
True, Michigan didn't do much itself, but it looked to me like Tech was hussling pretty good. Not always taking the best angles and whatnot, but they didn't just roll over out there. Just wish that Robinson hadn't let in one of those last go ahead goals right after Tech tied it up. It did look to me that Michigan was starting to look tight in the second when nobody had scored yet.
True, Michigan didn't do much itself, but it looked to me like Tech was hussling pretty good. Not always taking the best angles and whatnot, but they didn't just roll over out there. Just wish that Robinson hadn't let in one of those last go ahead goals right after Tech tied it up. It did look to me that Michigan was starting to look tight in the second when nobody had scored yet.
Huskiefan906
Well-known member
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
The G.L.I. continues to lose a bit of its luster...
Only 13,418 for the attendance.
Tonight, I would guess ~ 17k for the title game...Probably not a sellout...
I am curious to the items mentioned about enhancing the G.L.I. by Tech a week ago.
It is in need of a bit of refreshening at this point.
I miss them televising the whole tournament, but obviously that started the negative attendance trend. I wish they would show both 2nd day games though, it would not hurt attendance for the third place as nobody shows up to that one anyway.
As for the game today, I think State will show up and play today.
I was surprised how they came back on CC in the third period yesterday.
Tech really needs Brett Olson back. I sure hope he is able to play against St. Cloud....
The G.L.I. continues to lose a bit of its luster...
Only 13,418 for the attendance.
Tonight, I would guess ~ 17k for the title game...Probably not a sellout...
I am curious to the items mentioned about enhancing the G.L.I. by Tech a week ago.
It is in need of a bit of refreshening at this point.
I miss them televising the whole tournament, but obviously that started the negative attendance trend. I wish they would show both 2nd day games though, it would not hurt attendance for the third place as nobody shows up to that one anyway.
As for the game today, I think State will show up and play today.
I was surprised how they came back on CC in the third period yesterday.
Tech really needs Brett Olson back. I sure hope he is able to play against St. Cloud....
owslachief
occupe toi de tes oignons
u call that bold?
MTUHatTrick84
Waiting To Win It All
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
I have often wondered if a 'thinking outside the box' solution, such as moving the tournament to Van Andel in Grand Rapids for a few years to spark a new fanbase would be a good move for freshening up the tournament. I worry that more than 30 years in the same city with the same arena with 3/4 of the teams the same is a cause of tournament fatigue.
I am all for keeping the three regular participants, as I do believe in tradition. But tradition without innovation is a recipe for a stagnant event. And a stagnant event isn't going to drive extra fans into the seats. Also, with more than half of college hockey now participating in games this week (non-con series and 7 holiday tournaments), it is harder to draw a big name fourth team because of the options out there.
The problem with moving it to Grand Rapids is that Van Andel only holds 12,000+ fans. If the GLI drew 13,000+ yesterday and drew a larger crowd for tonight, then it wouldn't make sense to move to a smaller arena. If Van Andel held 15,000, it would be a slam dunk.
A benefit to Grand Rapids is that it opens things up to a different fan base. Detroit is 2.5 hours away, Ann Arbor is 2, and East Lansing is a little more than an hour. This is easily a drivable distance by fans. However, you also open the game up to the Chicago Alums, since Chicago to Grand Rapids is a 3 hour drive versus a 5 hour drive to Detroit. Van Andel has also hosted NCAA Regionals before.
Advertisement is about as good as you are going to get for college hockey. It has been mentioned on every Redwings telecast for the last 1-1.5 months, which covers most of the potential target audience.
Not suggesting it, just throwing it as an idea out there that there are ways to freshen the tournament.
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If Tech can come out and play today with the intensity they played with last night, then hopefully the losing streak ends today. 12 games is long enough. GO HUSKIES!!!
I have often wondered if a 'thinking outside the box' solution, such as moving the tournament to Van Andel in Grand Rapids for a few years to spark a new fanbase would be a good move for freshening up the tournament. I worry that more than 30 years in the same city with the same arena with 3/4 of the teams the same is a cause of tournament fatigue.
I am all for keeping the three regular participants, as I do believe in tradition. But tradition without innovation is a recipe for a stagnant event. And a stagnant event isn't going to drive extra fans into the seats. Also, with more than half of college hockey now participating in games this week (non-con series and 7 holiday tournaments), it is harder to draw a big name fourth team because of the options out there.
The problem with moving it to Grand Rapids is that Van Andel only holds 12,000+ fans. If the GLI drew 13,000+ yesterday and drew a larger crowd for tonight, then it wouldn't make sense to move to a smaller arena. If Van Andel held 15,000, it would be a slam dunk.
A benefit to Grand Rapids is that it opens things up to a different fan base. Detroit is 2.5 hours away, Ann Arbor is 2, and East Lansing is a little more than an hour. This is easily a drivable distance by fans. However, you also open the game up to the Chicago Alums, since Chicago to Grand Rapids is a 3 hour drive versus a 5 hour drive to Detroit. Van Andel has also hosted NCAA Regionals before.
Advertisement is about as good as you are going to get for college hockey. It has been mentioned on every Redwings telecast for the last 1-1.5 months, which covers most of the potential target audience.
Not suggesting it, just throwing it as an idea out there that there are ways to freshen the tournament.
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If Tech can come out and play today with the intensity they played with last night, then hopefully the losing streak ends today. 12 games is long enough. GO HUSKIES!!!
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JW Tigers
Go CC, go AFA, Go NU!
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
CC has had issues in the third period at times this year. They seem to lack some conditioning, or they sit back too much. Or both.
owslachief
occupe toi de tes oignons
i just hope all 20 come home in 1 piece. MTU's m.o. will be to play nasty & hurt somebody(s).
MTUHatTrick84
Waiting To Win It All
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
The Tigers sure didn't seem to have third period problems on their trip to Houghton.
The Tigers sure didn't seem to have third period problems on their trip to Houghton.
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Our friends out east with their Beanpot Tournament may disagree with that theory a bit, although I think they overstate how much that tournament matters to fanbases out of the four participating teams.
Very good point, especially about tradition without innovation. I wonder about Van Andel as an alternative (as you suggest later on in your post) though. The NCAAs there have been horribly attended. Half full houses even with close or fairly close participating teams are the norm. In the past they have hosted a couple of regular season one-off games, and the crowds for those too were awful. But who knows? Moving the tournament would certainly be innovating.
I'm reminded of the thread "The Joe is Dead" from 5 or 6 seasons ago following the CCHA finals. Right now there seems to be just one main fan base driving this tourney. Tech fans and State fans may feel less inclined to be excited by it with their teams down, and the fourth team never really seems to bring a lot of followers with it, in my opinion. And while this excuse/reason has been trumpeted to explain so much for the last couple of years, the economy really does drive down a lot of the attendance.
I think it got a tremendous boost in the early and mid-1980s with the rebirth of the programs at MSU and UM. As Tech's glory faded, the Spartans and Wolverines began to make NCAA noise and dominated the CCHA (with the help of Lake State of course) and that really made the GLI the tourney to pay attention to for a decade or more. By the early 90s, with both of those teams going strong, and the resurgence of the Red Wings, the Joe was the place to be for all things hockey.
Our friends out east with their Beanpot Tournament may disagree with that theory a bit, although I think they overstate how much that tournament matters to fanbases out of the four participating teams.
Very good point, especially about tradition without innovation. I wonder about Van Andel as an alternative (as you suggest later on in your post) though. The NCAAs there have been horribly attended. Half full houses even with close or fairly close participating teams are the norm. In the past they have hosted a couple of regular season one-off games, and the crowds for those too were awful. But who knows? Moving the tournament would certainly be innovating.
I'm reminded of the thread "The Joe is Dead" from 5 or 6 seasons ago following the CCHA finals. Right now there seems to be just one main fan base driving this tourney. Tech fans and State fans may feel less inclined to be excited by it with their teams down, and the fourth team never really seems to bring a lot of followers with it, in my opinion. And while this excuse/reason has been trumpeted to explain so much for the last couple of years, the economy really does drive down a lot of the attendance.
I think it got a tremendous boost in the early and mid-1980s with the rebirth of the programs at MSU and UM. As Tech's glory faded, the Spartans and Wolverines began to make NCAA noise and dominated the CCHA (with the help of Lake State of course) and that really made the GLI the tourney to pay attention to for a decade or more. By the early 90s, with both of those teams going strong, and the resurgence of the Red Wings, the Joe was the place to be for all things hockey.
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JW Tigers
Go CC, go AFA, Go NU!
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
I had a feeling a Tech fan might chime in about that, based on those two third periods.
There have been a few of those (one against Denver as well), but that's been more the exception than the rule thus far.
The Tigers sure didn't seem to have third period problems on their trip to Houghton.
I had a feeling a Tech fan might chime in about that, based on those two third periods.
There have been a few of those (one against Denver as well), but that's been more the exception than the rule thus far.
JW Tigers
Go CC, go AFA, Go NU!
Re: GLI 2010 - Or - Battle of the Endangered Coaches
Having been there for the last couple years, in my observation, the Beanpot still means a TON to the BU, BC, and NU fanbases. Harvard fans don't show up. They've been playing it for 52 years straight with the same four teams and it hasn't become stale. It's a different dynamic, though, because all four schools are within minutes of the Garden. It's much easier for those students to show up in big numbers.