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Gender Studies I
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MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Like I told my supervisor, if people are staring at me in the bathroom, then they have issues.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
(Real quick here, so as not to derail the hate-fest...)
I only skimmed the latest posts, because I had zero interest in continuing the folly of defending myself against imagined/projected moral crimes. Life is too short to spend time waging spurious food-fights, ain't it?
Before all the piling-on began ("rape" etc.), I made my original point, which was this: times are changing rapidly, and a little signage in TN or anywhere else does not constitute discrimination.
For example, we have practically lived on clothing-optional beaches every Summer for many years, and in every single venue, there is signage stating "Beyond This Point You Might Encounter Nude Sunbathers". Seems reasonable to post that much, in case a Sunday school picnic might unwittingly have chosen to convene there.
Same deal with bathrooms and locker rooms. I wouldn't advocate excluding anyone, but let people be informed, and let them take it from there.
And as far as me being a closet Trumpie, you have got to be effing kidding... But if we keep pushing each other to the extreme ends of the political spectrum, we might end-up with a POS such as De Santis in 2024. It's time to compromise as much as we can.
I only skimmed the latest posts, because I had zero interest in continuing the folly of defending myself against imagined/projected moral crimes. Life is too short to spend time waging spurious food-fights, ain't it?
Before all the piling-on began ("rape" etc.), I made my original point, which was this: times are changing rapidly, and a little signage in TN or anywhere else does not constitute discrimination.
For example, we have practically lived on clothing-optional beaches every Summer for many years, and in every single venue, there is signage stating "Beyond This Point You Might Encounter Nude Sunbathers". Seems reasonable to post that much, in case a Sunday school picnic might unwittingly have chosen to convene there.
Same deal with bathrooms and locker rooms. I wouldn't advocate excluding anyone, but let people be informed, and let them take it from there.
And as far as me being a closet Trumpie, you have got to be effing kidding... But if we keep pushing each other to the extreme ends of the political spectrum, we might end-up with a POS such as De Santis in 2024. It's time to compromise as much as we can.
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MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Nice try Fish. Your nude beach analogy doesn't fly. You're flat out claiming men are going to use these changes for nefarious means even though there have always been creeps. Are you telling me there are women taking their tops off at approved locations in hopes a Boy Scout Troop shows up? Point is you have nothing to backup your fears behind this which is why people are speculating about your motives.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
And I laugh at him because after all, he somehow became the judge of what's discrimination and what's not. Attitudes like his are why all the nice trans people are dead and all that's left are people like me, p-ssed off cockroach motherfuckers (which is a great name for a metal band, but I digress).
If he wants to sit here at midnight and be a gaslighting little nardbagel who wants to think he's the victim in all this, let him. I can get 1,000 of his type for $0.01. He's not special. He's not unique. And it's not that I don't give a fuck; I wager my bounty of fucks is hearty and fulsome, but I can no longer be profligate with my fucks. So I just don't have any fucks left to give HIM.
This thread is something else.....
Fish, for the umpteenth time, we aren't *creating* a problem by failing to enact new laws. On the contrary, some people are trying to create new laws to address a problem that *doesn't exist*.
And you know this. It's why you move the goalposts, going from "you're naive if you think men aren't creeping into the ladies room!" - to - "we can't push too hard, society just isn't ready for it and we might scare away all the bigots."
We get it. You aren't comfortable with transgender folks. That must be tough for you. But just because you get the ickies it doesn't mean other people should have their right to exist legislated away (and the ability to go to the bathroom is a pretty fucking basic part of existence).
Fish, for the umpteenth time, we aren't *creating* a problem by failing to enact new laws. On the contrary, some people are trying to create new laws to address a problem that *doesn't exist*.
And you know this. It's why you move the goalposts, going from "you're naive if you think men aren't creeping into the ladies room!" - to - "we can't push too hard, society just isn't ready for it and we might scare away all the bigots."
We get it. You aren't comfortable with transgender folks. That must be tough for you. But just because you get the ickies it doesn't mean other people should have their right to exist legislated away (and the ability to go to the bathroom is a pretty fucking basic part of existence).
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Slap Shot
I got nothing
I don't blame you for being angry, but I do pray there are enough of us our there to give you hope for a better future. If my sons and their friends are any indication of youth at large that will happen if the remaining orcs don't get to them first.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Things are getting better. It's just that the worst people don't get any better, they are as bad as they have ever been, and they control a major political party.
But they once controlled both.
Truth be told, 80% of whites were almost certainly like today's Republican Nazis 100 years ago. 70% fifty years ago. Now it's 60%. Slowly, the stupid and hateful population, despite their promiscuity, is dying. They've gotten to the point now where they literally have to cheat to win any election outside their most concentrated cesspools.
We are replacing them. They are a cultural dead end. But now that we have the heft we need to restore democracy and drive the remainder either off a cliff or into a reservation where they can't harm anybody who is worthwhile.
But they once controlled both.
Truth be told, 80% of whites were almost certainly like today's Republican Nazis 100 years ago. 70% fifty years ago. Now it's 60%. Slowly, the stupid and hateful population, despite their promiscuity, is dying. They've gotten to the point now where they literally have to cheat to win any election outside their most concentrated cesspools.
We are replacing them. They are a cultural dead end. But now that we have the heft we need to restore democracy and drive the remainder either off a cliff or into a reservation where they can't harm anybody who is worthwhile.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
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Will someone please think about the precious fee-fees of white, straight males and especially the phony virtue-signaling "fathers of daughters" who are just very concerned about their children as they brag about supporting feminism while hashtagging #NotAllMen?
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Inevitably with bigots, I need to remember it's never their fault. I remember with Bob Gray, he elevated himself to martyr status and was desperate for us to get the hammer and nails and put him up in a couple of minutes.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
I still get a kick out of Bob Gray being an alias for Pennywise the Clown in It.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
As I recall, Flaggy also nailed himself to the cross and said he was being persecuted for his beliefs before he was banned.
What exactly are you doing out there to give hope for a better future?
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Bigots come in every size, shape, skin-color and sexual orientation.
So do bullies who refuse to consider what the other bigots say, and that's exactly what we're seeing from your gang right now.
Wake up. We all need to consider each others' cultural sensitivities- now more that ever -and find a way to make it work to some extent for the bulk of us.
A smart man (was it Abbie Hoffman?) once said that the difference between revolutionary hate and conventional hate amounts to the difference between dog shit and chicken shit, and he was right about that.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
So you feel free to visit the the closest BR at any juncture?
Sure you do. I would too, but that shit won't flush just yet.
This sort of "logic" is a considerable factor in the continuing existence of Trumpism, but it's not going to work.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
No one is bullying you they're simply calling you out for whining about a problem that doesn't exist.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
I'll also add that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Being asked to provide evidence and being dismissed for lack of it isn't bullying either. At least Flaggy cited his sources, even if they were grainy YouTube videos.
And also, speaking of Trump voters, polls indicate growing support of trans rights across the board with the only holdouts being far-right wing Evangelicals.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Well, it's obviously a problem in half of the country, and that makes it an actual problem.
Still, it's not rocket science to find some middle ground, which has been my point from the get-go.
All-stall BR's are the wave of the future, and I'm not worried a bit about who occupies the adjacent one, unless my neighbor has downed burritos and draft beer the prior evening.
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