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Gear Grinding Part 5: The Story of the Broken Tooth

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wolverineTrumpet said:
Ignorance that would prefer to remain ignorant is grinding my gears
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They won't believe my simple answers. When I expand to show the reasoning behind my conclusion, they refuse to listen. I don't know how to convince someone that won't listen to reason. Logic and facts have always been my ammo, I have been disarmed. What can I do?
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When I have had to deal with similar situations, I've found that if I go to them and say, "I need your help. I have a problem." and then I lay out the data, they graciously provide assistance. It might not work for you now in this situation with these people. Basically I flatter them shamelessly: I've found the source of the problem but I can't figure it out since I'm not nearly as smart as they are, maybe they can see what I am missing.
 
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The amount of barriers my company puts in place to letting people do their jobs. Trying to duplicate an NDM process? Well, you're going to need a security plan update from the blah-blah, and create a new one for the blah-blah-blah. This digital document in a Word document format will ensure that no data is ever lost, but if it is, we have it in document form which cost center will take the hit. That's how we'll secure our data... that contains absolutely no customer data and would require at least three other datasets across multiple days in order to know what they mean or to find even an account number, let alone more datasets to know who actually owns the account.
 
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St. Clown said:
Is there a good part of a country known as Drug Cartel, Inc., and not actually being in with the cartels?
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From what I've read, the large cities are pretty safe. I wouldn't be worried if we were just going to Bogota, but we're flying to some little city, and driving 2 hours from there. Not looking forward to that. Also, from what I've read, the violence and cartel dominance has been curtailed in the last 10 years, which is probably the only silver-esk lining I can see.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
From what I've read, the large cities are pretty safe. I wouldn't be worried if we were just going to Bogota, but we're flying to some little city, and driving 2 hours from there. Not looking forward to that. Also, from what I've read, the violence and cartel dominance has been curtailed in the last 10 years, which is probably the only silver-esk lining I can see.
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Maybe you need to install a GPS computer chip in your scalp to locate you when you go missing?
 
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Person sat behind me on the bus and had the music going full blast on her phone. What annoyed me was that she didn't have earphones, so everyone was treated to "Fancy" for the ride.

Also, speaking of the bus, I thought boarding protocol was "existing passengers get off, then those waiting to board can get on." Poor woman was trying to get off the bus with her groceries, but those boarding the bus wouldn't let her.
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
Person sat behind me on the bus and had the music going full blast on her phone. What annoyed me was that she didn't have earphones, so everyone was treated to "Fancy" for the ride.

Also, speaking of the bus, I thought boarding protocol was "existing passengers get off, then those waiting to board can get on." Poor woman was trying to get off the bus with her groceries, but those boarding the bus wouldn't let her.
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At least you got to listen to Reba instead of some of the garbage that is made today.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
At least you got to listen to Reba instead of some of the garbage that is made today.
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Fancy is by Iggy Azalea. While I think it's a pretty decent song, it is most definitely part of some of the garbage that is made today.
 
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Bus protocol is tricky. Depends on a lot of things.

If you pay when you get off, then exiting ppl go thru front. Boarding ppl can go thru back or wait for front to be clear.

If you pay when you get on, that should be reversed with exiters going out the back. If you exit thru front you are slowing down the bus.
 
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Not to pick on you specifically bb_dl, but what a fascinating illustration of just how deeply and quickly we all can fall prey to the Anchoring Bias. You saw JF's initial post and immediately became 100% convinced that you knew what song he had heard, despite:

1) That he was the only witness to the actual event
2) That he supplied specific evidence that it was a different song by a different artist
3) That it would have taken you about 7 seconds (I timed myself) to verify the information that he'd provided

In spite of these facts, you were so convinced that you were correct (and you are in a way - there clearly IS a song called Fancy by Reba) based on your initial impression, that you never even stopped to consider that the actual witness to the event could ALSO be correct, but in a different way.

And if this can happen over something as meaningless as which song played on a bus on a given day, how much more do we need to be on guard against this when the topic actually matters to us?

Fascinating stuff....
 
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LynahFan said:
Not to pick on you specifically bb_dl, but what a fascinating illustration of just how deeply and quickly we all can fall prey to the Anchoring Bias. You saw JF's initial post and immediately became 100% convinced that you knew what song he had heard, despite:

1) That he was the only witness to the actual event
2) That he supplied specific evidence that it was a different song by a different artist
3) That it would have taken you about 7 seconds (I timed myself) to verify the information that he'd provided

In spite of these facts, you were so convinced that you were correct (and you are in a way - there clearly IS a song called Fancy by Reba) based on your initial impression, that you never even stopped to consider that the actual witness to the event could ALSO be correct, but in a different way.

And if this can happen over something as meaningless as which song played on a bus on a given day, how much more do we need to be on guard against this when the topic actually matters to us?

Fascinating stuff....
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Umm...what?
Shirtiless Bob's initial post about hearing "Fancy" made no reference to which artist or any details on the person playing it other than it was a "her" listening on her phone while riding the bus.
Perhaps you have a bias that people riding a bus would be listening to pop music rather than country.
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
Umm...what?
Shirtiless Bob's initial post about hearing "Fancy" made no reference to which artist or any details on the person playing it other than it was a "her" listening on her phone while riding the bus.
Perhaps you have a bias that people riding a bus would be listening to pop music rather than country.
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She's right, I didn't clarify. And to be honest, the only "Fancy" I've heard is the Iggy Azalea version.
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
Umm...what?
Shirtiless Bob's initial post about hearing "Fancy" made no reference to which artist or any details on the person playing it other than it was a "her" listening on her phone while riding the bus.
Perhaps you have a bias that people riding a bus would be listening to pop music rather than country.
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Post 409: the song was called Fancy, upon which bb_dl made the assumption that it was the Reba song in post 410. In post 411, Spartan4Life provided the additional info that the song was by Iggy Azalea, which did not shake bb_dl out of his/her initial belief that it was the Reba song, because he persisted in claiming it must be the Reba song in post 413.
 
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LynahFan said:
Post 409: the song was called Fancy, upon which bb_dl made the assumption that it was the Reba song in post 410. In post 411, Spartan4Life provided the additional info that the song was by Iggy Azalea, which did not shake bb_dl out of his/her initial belief that it was the Reba song, because he persisted in claiming it must be the Reba song in post 413.
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But isn't that me practicing my own anchoring bias? I figured it was by Iggy because she's at the top of music right now, but it could have very well been someone listening to Reba. I didn't even know the Reba version existed utnil bb_dl's post.
 
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To be fair to both Bob, who likely never grew up listening to late 80's/early 90's country AND to Bigblue who has had the pleasure of never having his ears pierced by the pop music genre...


Here's a mashup of Iggy Azelea, featuring Reba McEntire singing "Fancy".
https://m.soundcloud.com/skylerwahl/iggy-fancy-feat-reba-mcentire:D


(I'm pretty sure I'm going to be neg-repped for this.)
 
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